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[MR-from-NG]

In addition I would also like to point out that the younger generations of Cypriots, most educated abroad, are very professional.

Mr and RH seem to think Cyprus hasn't evolved and because MR is a gypsy and a peasant himself he seems to think all Cypriots are like him.

MR, you are a dinosaur. You have no clue about Cypriots at all.

RH, you have moved into a country with a police force you have little faith in. Why did you do that? Seems quite strange to move to a country and then criticize its institutions. What gives?

I mean seriously, if I decided to move to the USA, I will be right behind their institutions and practices otherwise I wouldn't go if I didn't think they had law and order, reasonable education and health system.

Typical, slightest criticism of the RoC and you get bombarded with insults. Listen Walter Mitty. Do you honestly believe you have any credibility here? Between pushing your trolly along the aisle of your plane and posting on the forum you wouldn't have time to learn anything about anywhere. You are a fantasist piece of shit.

Idiot, you are no less than 8000 miles away from Cyprus. You hardly go the there. RH lives there and I frequently travel there. How on earth do you try and sell yourself as an authority on the affairs of Cyprus? Get a life Walter and stop making a fool of yourself. Kangaroo shagging cunt.

Say's the imbeciles who would like to criticize Cypriot law enforcement.

I'm afraid I know more about the RoC than you do, and I also know that CYPOL is competent.

In addition, we are talking about one of the youngest countries in the world here, also under illegal occupation and despite all the obstacles, the country continues to do OK and it continues to thrive.

If people get ripped off in Cyprus (it happens in all countries) then they should approach CYPOL about their matter. If they need legal advice and the OP probably does need it, they should see a lawyer.

I know more than enough to point people in that direction to get proper information and advice, this isn't the place for anyone getting that kind of advice from incompetent amateurs like yourself.

Saying that the CYPOL will do nothing is extremely unhelpful to the OP. You do it to slander the country along with RH who for some strange reason chose to migrate to a country whilst slamming the countries law and order organs of the State, which equates to diminished law and yet he still came to the RoC. I now question his sobriety because who does that? Legitimate Question.

Also saying that CYPOL and Cypriot lawyers are incompetent, you are telling the OP to give up. Why do that if there is legitimacy to his claims? I do doubt his claim but that is another matter and am therefore willing to offer some benefit of considerable doubt because if his claims are true I sympathize with the individual greatly. It's unfortunate that he is no longer here to elaborate on matters.

But if he is reading, he needs to speak to CYPOL and a Lawyer.

You are talking out of your backside. Your knowledge of Cyprus is about as good as your knowledge of the 737 Max. What happened to your prediction the aircraft would be back in the skies within 3 weeks of being grounded?

Anyway, I think Maximus is right. This is a "Hit and Run" thread, a "drive-by shooting". I think Sam is winding us up.

@Sam, unless you come back and explain yourself you'll be in my New Years Honours List, cancer or not. You have until tomorrow evening.

[Paphitis]

In addition I would also like to point out that the younger generations of Cypriots, most educated abroad, are very professional.

Mr and RH seem to think Cyprus hasn't evolved and because MR is a gypsy and a peasant himself he seems to think all Cypriots are like him.

MR, you are a dinosaur. You have no clue about Cypriots at all.

RH, you have moved into a country with a police force you have little faith in. Why did you do that? Seems quite strange to move to a country and then criticize its institutions. What gives?

I mean seriously, if I decided to move to the USA, I will be right behind their institutions and practices otherwise I wouldn't go if I didn't think they had law and order, reasonable education and health system.

Typical, slightest criticism of the RoC and you get bombarded with insults. Listen Walter Mitty. Do you honestly believe you have any credibility here? Between pushing your trolly along the aisle of your plane and posting on the forum you wouldn't have time to learn anything about anywhere. You are a fantasist piece of shit.

Idiot, you are no less than 8000 miles away from Cyprus. You hardly go the there. RH lives there and I frequently travel there. How on earth do you try and sell yourself as an authority on the affairs of Cyprus? Get a life Walter and stop making a fool of yourself. Kangaroo shagging cunt.

Say's the imbeciles who would like to criticize Cypriot law enforcement.

I'm afraid I know more about the RoC than you do, and I also know that CYPOL is competent.

In addition, we are talking about one of the youngest countries in the world here, also under illegal occupation and despite all the obstacles, the country continues to do OK and it continues to thrive.

If people get ripped off in Cyprus (it happens in all countries) then they should approach CYPOL about their matter. If they need legal advice and the OP probably does need it, they should see a lawyer.

I know more than enough to point people in that direction to get proper information and advice, this isn't the place for anyone getting that kind of advice from incompetent amateurs like yourself.

Saying that the CYPOL will do nothing is extremely unhelpful to the OP. You do it to slander the country along with RH who for some strange reason chose to migrate to a country whilst slamming the countries law and order organs of the State, which equates to diminished law and yet he still came to the RoC. I now question his sobriety because who does that? Legitimate Question.

Also saying that CYPOL and Cypriot lawyers are incompetent, you are telling the OP to give up. Why do that if there is legitimacy to his claims? I do doubt his claim but that is another matter and am therefore willing to offer some benefit of considerable doubt because if his claims are true I sympathize with the individual greatly. It's unfortunate that he is no longer here to elaborate on matters.

But if he is reading, he needs to speak to CYPOL and a Lawyer.

You are talking out of your backside. Your knowledge of Cyprus is about as good as your knowledge of the 737 Max. What happened to your prediction the aircraft would be back in the skies within 3 weeks of being grounded?

Anyway, I think Maximus is right. This is a "Hit and Run" thread, a "drive-by shooting". I think Sam is winding us up.

@Sam, unless you come back and explain yourself you'll be in my New Years Honours List, cancer or not. You have until tomorrow evening.

Right and what knowledge do you bring to the table about the B737? Sweet stuff all is your answer. I know a lot more intricate information about the B737 than you think.

Yes I believe he was winding us up as well, but I can't prove it. If everything is true about his current state of health and the other mess he alludes to, I extend my benefit of doubt as compassion must always dictate because even if half is true, I feel sorry for him.

however, it's probably more likely none of it is true. Doesn't matter.

As to my knowledge of Cyprus. I have 1 relative who works for CYPOL. Meet up with him every single time. I also know and understand a bit about Cypriot lawyers as I have used legal services in Cyprus.

I recently had to pay my legal bill just a few days ago from my Cyprus account which my Bank in Cyprus keeps freezing. I was late in paying by over 2 months (try doing that Australia). It was just a property transfer to my name which they were good enough to do for me without payment (this will never happen in Australia either) after I explained my situation. At one point I had to explain different transactions because they are right on top of laundering and perhaps other criminal activities. it was so annoying but no Bank in Australia takes any interest in your transactions and neither do they freeze anything so may I add that the Cyprus bank System is at present over regulated so perhaps the Cypriots are not a bunch of dumb fucks at all and are actually doing something to combat illegal activity. I don't know but they seem to have very tight laws right now to the point of them being frustrating.

I managed to unfreeze my account and used the internet banking after getting a pass-code to transfer the amounts owing. But it took me 6 weeks to unfreeze it and frustrating as all hell as even other people were trying to deposit funds and couldn't.

The service I received was astounding. if you don't pay your legal bill in Australia, then watch out. Definitely, Cypriot lawyers are far more cuddly, friendly and nicer to deal with and I can't question their professionalism and neither can I question CYPOL who do a terrific job in maintaining law and order in Cyprus.

The Cypriot lawyer I used was definitely one of the most sweet ladies ever. 10 out of 10!

Just because you are an old peasant doesn't mean all Cypriots are like you.

[MR-from-NG]

In addition I would also like to point out that the younger generations of Cypriots, most educated abroad, are very professional.

Mr and RH seem to think Cyprus hasn't evolved and because MR is a gypsy and a peasant himself he seems to think all Cypriots are like him.

MR, you are a dinosaur. You have no clue about Cypriots at all.

RH, you have moved into a country with a police force you have little faith in. Why did you do that? Seems quite strange to move to a country and then criticize its institutions. What gives?

I mean seriously, if I decided to move to the USA, I will be right behind their institutions and practices otherwise I wouldn't go if I didn't think they had law and order, reasonable education and health system.

Typical, slightest criticism of the RoC and you get bombarded with insults. Listen Walter Mitty. Do you honestly believe you have any credibility here? Between pushing your trolly along the aisle of your plane and posting on the forum you wouldn't have time to learn anything about anywhere. You are a fantasist piece of shit.

Idiot, you are no less than 8000 miles away from Cyprus. You hardly go the there. RH lives there and I frequently travel there. How on earth do you try and sell yourself as an authority on the affairs of Cyprus? Get a life Walter and stop making a fool of yourself. Kangaroo shagging cunt.

Say's the imbeciles who would like to criticize Cypriot law enforcement.

I'm afraid I know more about the RoC than you do, and I also know that CYPOL is competent.

In addition, we are talking about one of the youngest countries in the world here, also under illegal occupation and despite all the obstacles, the country continues to do OK and it continues to thrive.

If people get ripped off in Cyprus (it happens in all countries) then they should approach CYPOL about their matter. If they need legal advice and the OP probably does need it, they should see a lawyer.

I know more than enough to point people in that direction to get proper information and advice, this isn't the place for anyone getting that kind of advice from incompetent amateurs like yourself.

Saying that the CYPOL will do nothing is extremely unhelpful to the OP. You do it to slander the country along with RH who for some strange reason chose to migrate to a country whilst slamming the countries law and order organs of the State, which equates to diminished law and yet he still came to the RoC. I now question his sobriety because who does that? Legitimate Question.

Also saying that CYPOL and Cypriot lawyers are incompetent, you are telling the OP to give up. Why do that if there is legitimacy to his claims? I do doubt his claim but that is another matter and am therefore willing to offer some benefit of considerable doubt because if his claims are true I sympathize with the individual greatly. It's unfortunate that he is no longer here to elaborate on matters.

But if he is reading, he needs to speak to CYPOL and a Lawyer.

You are talking out of your backside. Your knowledge of Cyprus is about as good as your knowledge of the 737 Max. What happened to your prediction the aircraft would be back in the skies within 3 weeks of being grounded?

Anyway, I think Maximus is right. This is a "Hit and Run" thread, a "drive-by shooting". I think Sam is winding us up.

@Sam, unless you come back and explain yourself you'll be in my New Years Honours List, cancer or not. You have until tomorrow evening.

Right and what knowledge do you bring to the table about the B737? Sweet stuff all is your answer. I know a lot more intricate information about the B737 than you think.

Yes I believe he was winding us up as well, but I can't prove it. If everything is true about his current state of health and the other mess he alludes to, I extend my benefit of doubt as compassion must always dictate because even if half is true, I feel sorry for him.

however, it's probably more likely none of it is true. Doesn't matter.

As to my knowledge of Cyprus. I have 1 relative who works for CYPOL. Meet up with him every single time. I also know and understand a bit about Cypriot lawyers as I have used legal services in Cyprus.

I recently had to pay my legal bill just a few days ago from my Cyprus account which my Bank in Cyprus keeps freezing. I was late in paying by over 2 months (try doing that Australia). It was just a property transfer to my name which they were good enough to do for me without payment (this will never happen in Australia either) after I explained my situation. At one point I had to explain different transactions because they are right on top of laundering and perhaps other criminal activities. it was so annoying but no Bank in Australia takes any interest in your transactions and neither do they freeze anything so may I add that the Cyprus bank System is at present over regulated so perhaps the Cypriots are not a bunch of dumb fucks at all and are actually doing something to combat illegal activity. I don't know but they seem to have very tight laws right now to the point of them being frustrating.

I managed to unfreeze my account and used the internet banking after getting a pass-code to transfer the amounts owing. But it took me 6 weeks to unfreeze it and frustrating as all hell as even other people were trying to deposit funds and couldn't.

The service I received was astounding. if you don't pay your legal bill in Australia, then watch out. Definitely, Cypriot lawyers are far more cuddly, friendly and nicer to deal with and I can't question their professionalism and neither can I question CYPOL who do a terrific job in maintaining law and order in Cyprus.

The Cypriot lawyer I used was definitely one of the most sweet ladies ever. 10 out of 10!

Just because you are an old peasant doesn't mean all Cypriots are like you.

I just noticed this Paphitis, if you've gone to bed then GET UP. Let's continue with our argument. You see where we differ you fantasist little man is that when I go to my bank they stand to attention. When I need my solicitor or my accountant they come to me so what about that you kangaroo shagging peasant?

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

I have dealt with police everywhere, and a lot of the time, they do not know the laws and can be vague. It is up to you to follow things through. Take some responsibility!

I already told you that fraud is a very specific criminal matter.

I mean honestly RH stop wasting my time.

Forging documents are a felony in most countries I know, including Cyprus. I suggest you start getting a bit more street smart and no who you are talking to especially when dealing with a new constable. You can always speak to another Officer but claiming they are incompetent is what I would call arrogant.

So you agree they are not always the sharpest knives in the drawer?

According to this detective a forgery is not a criminal offence if it is presented as evidence in a civil case. As I said ..... he was very wrong. Why and how do you think I got from the 'front-desk' to the Chief of Police? Because so far I have proved I know more about the Law than the average police officer. BTW: He was a Sargent and in his mid/late forties ..... hardly a rookie.

Fraud is NOT specific!

fraud
....... wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

If you claim you are an Airline Captain and you are not ...... that is fraudulent misrepresentation!

........a person acting in a way that is intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

I think you demonstrate that admirably!

A 'Fraud on The Court' is a SPECIFIC criminal offence and is a felony, not a misdemeanour, but you didn't know the difference! Which means YOU are actually a fraud because you claim or credit yourself, as having knowledge, accomplishments and qualities which you clearly do not possess. You are just like the average policeman ..... you think you know more than you actually do!

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

I have dealt with police everywhere, and a lot of the time, they do not know the laws and can be vague. It is up to you to follow things through. Take some responsibility!

I already told you that fraud is a very specific criminal matter.

I mean honestly RH stop wasting my time.

Forging documents are a felony in most countries I know, including Cyprus. I suggest you start getting a bit more street smart and no who you are talking to especially when dealing with a new constable. You can always speak to another Officer but claiming they are incompetent is what I would call arrogant.

So you agree they are not always the sharpest knives in the drawer?

According to this detective a forgery is not a criminal offence if it is presented as evidence in a civil case. As I said ..... he was very wrong. Why and how do you think I got from the 'front-desk' to the Chief of Police? Because so far I have proved I know more about the Law than the average police officer. BTW: He was a Sargent and in his mid/late forties ..... hardly a rookie.

Fraud is NOT specific!

fraud
....... wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

If you claim you are an Airline Captain and you are not ...... that is fraudulent misrepresentation!

........a person acting in a way that is intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.

I think you demonstrate that admirably!

A 'Fraud on The Court' is a SPECIFIC criminal offence and is a felony, not a misdemeanour, but you didn't know the difference! Which means YOU are actually a fraud because you claim or credit yourself, as having knowledge, accomplishments and qualities which you clearly do not possess. You are just like the average policeman ..... you think you know more than you actually do!

Police everywhere are not the sharpest tools. It's not as if many of them actually go to uni and get a real qualification like Engineering or Law.

CYPOL is no different to other police services in other countries like Australia, and USA. the only difference being is that in Australia and America, we have many police forces, 1 each for each state, and then we also have the Feds, Financial Crime Units, Customs, and Immigration which in reality are also a law enforcement agency in specialized niche areas and that all these agencies have an abundance of resources and funding from their relative States, have helicopters, aircraft, drones, and are even backed up by very sophisticated anti terror security agencies in the background, and even possess para military STAR Forces or Tactical Response Groups trained to respond on major incidents like terrorism. Cyprus is an island of 800,000 people and it has a CYPOL force of 3500 officers.

Not that they are better, it's just that they are better resourced with Billions in funding.

CYPOL are just as good as any for the resources they do have, and are responsible for making a lot of busts against criminal activities in Cyprus and they do a good job.

It does not absolve the fact that the OP needs to get into contact with CYPOL and also a Lawyer for his protection and to provide advice on what to say to CYPOL. he needs to present all the information he has so that the authorities can determine whether he does have a criminal matter that they should pursue. he will probably need to escalate it up the food chain which isn't uncommon or it does occur in Australia as well. CYPOL does have specialists who are trained in Financial Crime and know the law and who are competent enough to work things out for him. CYPOL also have an Attorney General which can provide them with guidance and they also have a Department of Public Prosecutions and they do employ Lawyers and are trained in Law to work out the merits of his case.

I personally think the OP is not being truthful but that's beside the point.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis

CYPOL are just as good as any for the resources they do have, and are responsible for making a lot of busts against criminal activities in Cyprus and they do a good job.

You don't live here so you have no idea about the Cypriot police or how the system works, not only in the police but most of the government services and other Government officials!

A few years ago it was discovered that a large number applicants for positions at The Police Academy were cheating! They were in possession of the entry exam questions are were being groomed to pass the exam. It had been going on for a long time so they had no idea how many serving police officers got the job by cheating on the entrance exam. The problem was there were so many of them they were not sure who had and hadn't cheated. So, the likelihood is that many of these cheats who did not have the intelligence to take the exam are now serving police officers.

In Cyprus, any government job is obtained most often through the 'koumbarrou'/family connections system. They get the jobs not by what they know or how intelligent they are but who they know and the police are no different. This is endemic in Cypriot society and you have already referred to it. Your posts show you have a rather distorted view of the system ...... because you have never been part of it! You cannot compare Cyprus with Australia, the UK or any other country ...... I found Cyprus is 'different' by living here for 25 years.

I don't know if the OP was being truthful but I can't think of what he would gain by not being so?

[MR-from-NG]

Paphitis

CYPOL are just as good as any for the resources they do have, and are responsible for making a lot of busts against criminal activities in Cyprus and they do a good job.

You don't live here so you have no idea about the Cypriot police or how the system works, not only in the police but most of the government services and other Government officials!

A few years ago it was discovered that a large number applicants for positions at The Police Academy were cheating! They were in possession of the entry exam questions are were being groomed to pass the exam. It had been going on for a long time so they had no idea how many serving police officers got the job by cheating on the entrance exam. The problem was there were so many of them they were not sure who had and hadn't cheated. So, the likelihood is that many of these cheats who did not have the intelligence to take the exam are now serving police officers.

In Cyprus, any government job is obtained most often through the 'koumbarrou'/family connections system. They get the jobs not by what they know or how intelligent they are but who they know and the police are no different. This is endemic in Cypriot society and you have already referred to it. Your posts show you have a rather distorted view of the system ...... because you have never been part of it! You cannot compare Cyprus with Australia, the UK or any other country ...... I found Cyprus is 'different' by living here for 25 years.

I don't know if the OP was being truthful but I can't think of what he would gain by not being so?

And of course their lack of training, experience and professionalism will result in using brute force in solving most crimes. I wouldn't say it was systematic torture but you'd get a good fucking hiding if you didn't tell them what they wanted. Without going into too much detail I know this to be fact on both sides of the border.

An experienced detective will sit at his desk a good 2-3 meters away from you and get the desired results without laying a hand on you. This just is not the case in Cyprus and many other less developed countries.

My personal experiences with police has been with just the traffic division. Judging by what I experienced in America, Australia and many other countries I would rate British Police to be the best in the world.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis

CYPOL are just as good as any for the resources they do have, and are responsible for making a lot of busts against criminal activities in Cyprus and they do a good job.

You don't live here so you have no idea about the Cypriot police or how the system works, not only in the police but most of the government services and other Government officials!

A few years ago it was discovered that a large number applicants for positions at The Police Academy were cheating! They were in possession of the entry exam questions are were being groomed to pass the exam. It had been going on for a long time so they had no idea how many serving police officers got the job by cheating on the entrance exam. The problem was there were so many of them they were not sure who had and hadn't cheated. So, the likelihood is that many of these cheats who did not have the intelligence to take the exam are now serving police officers.

In Cyprus, any government job is obtained most often through the 'koumbarrou'/family connections system. They get the jobs not by what they know or how intelligent they are but who they know and the police are no different. This is endemic in Cypriot society and you have already referred to it. Your posts show you have a rather distorted view of the system ...... because you have never been part of it! You cannot compare Cyprus with Australia, the UK or any other country ...... I found Cyprus is 'different' by living here for 25 years.

I don't know if the OP was being truthful but I can't think of what he would gain by not being so?

I know how the system works in Cyprus and I also have faith in CYPOL.

They are also backed up with the legal resources they need through the Attorney General and DPP or their equivalents in Cyprus.

I find no difference in CYPOL and Australian Police Forces. In fact I think CYPOL Officers are nicer and more respectful. Much easier to deal with as well.

Try getting pulled over by US or Australian Police and see for yourself.

This cheating thing is nothing new. Where you have students, you will find they will conspire, often in intricate ways to cheat the system. It doesn't surprise me.

We did the damn same think in our Military Academy in Australia and often our trainers knew what we were up to. Bottom line is, if we found a way to cheat the system, we wouldn't hesitate at all.

That isn't true these days about getting jobs because you have a Koumbaro but what you describe occurs everywhere, including the UK. It's no different and often times I believe it is worse in UK than it is Cyprus as all the good jobs go to the boys. Same in Australia. It's all a boys club.

Aviation too as jobs are given to people because they are known or friends or from the same Squadron 15 years ago. It's a boys club.

QANTAS, apart from being one of the best airlines in the world, has the most astonishing nepotism you will ever see in your lifetime. In fact I have an enormous knowledge of Greece, apart from Cyprus and at Olympic Airways of all places before that went bust and there was nepotism there for sure but QANTAS takes the cake. Sons of Pilots and Engineers, are on the fast track. If you were in the RAAF together, then don't even bother with an interview. If you went to Geelong Grammar, here's a job.

Oh, you know the CEO Alan Joyce. Why didn't you say so. here is your 250K salary.

It's not what you know half the time, it's who you know and that is how I got my jobs. My first job in the civilian sphere was like that, the company I work for now also the same as I flew with the current Chief Pilot on Orions and it will never change. Didn't even have to be interviewed.

I am sick and tired of people talking nonsense about Cyprus. You for instance harp on about regulating the Banks more. Well, I got say, to my absolute disgust and total frustration, Cypriot Banks seem to be the most over regulated now and speaking of financial crime, Cypriot banks seem to be some of the most stringently regulated and policed banks I have ever seen in my life. They keep friggin freezing my accounts all the time.

So even though this annoys the hell out of me, Cypriots really are not as simple as your like to portray. They are actually smart brown people.

[Paphitis]

Speaking of nepotism, there are now 150 odd Greek Pilots at Turkish Airlines, some of them very high in the food chain as checkers.

Now, there is also 1 Cypriot guy who actually lives in the RoC and commutes to work for his 4 day cycle and then commutes back and there are actually so many Cypriot Pilots who can walk into TA because they have the contacts with the Greek Contingent from Olympic.

So many great pilots and nice people over there now, who are good friends of mine as well.

Nepotism is everywhere. Whether you like it or not. it's the way things work all over the world. if you got mates in influential places, you will get a job.

It's the same at QATAR, Emirates, TA, British Airways and QANTAS.

Even senior Flight operations Inspectors are poached from the Government (regulator) by the Airlines. We employ 2 of them on packages that make your eyes water and whenever we are audited by the regulator, it's these guys that need to start earning their money. It's enough to at least raise an eyebrow.

So Cyprus isn't really all that different you know.

[erolz66]

Right and what knowledge do you bring to the table about the B737? Sweet stuff all is your answer.

Could not be any less than the knowledge you had about Vint Cerf, who he is and what his motivations were for designing the internet. Yet that did not stop you sharing your non knowledge with the rest of us did it ?

I know a lot more intricate information about the B737 than you think.

Yeah and you also 'knew' that Boeing owned Haliburton,Ratheyon and Lockheed-Martin. Just a shame no one else in the world knows this including Boeing, Haliburton,Ratheyon and Lockheed-Martin or their respective shareholders

Can you really not see that when you make such plainly incorrect claims and do not have the courage or ability to acknowledge your error having made it, that pretty much guarantees a reduction in the degree to which third parties consider you credible, on any subject ?