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[Lordo]

Guys, don't think I'm ignoring you. My pacemaker is giving me problems so will spend some time in hospital getting it sorted. Over to you Lordo

gecmish olsun gardah da brak bu pezzevenkleri bir yana. istirahatinga ve gendinge iyi bak.

[Lordo]

What like the IPC? The IPC that couldnt afford to compensate GC's, even at the ridiculously low valued assessments.

You are making it up as you go along.

Your side had this chance and even that turned out to be a folly for the few that tried to get compensation.

Neither the TC's or Turkey can afford to buy all the GC property in their illegal possession based on today's values.

You enough talk some shit boy.

It should simply be returned to its rightful owners.

This is what Sotos means when he says you make ridiculous unacceptable demands.

This one is just plain not feasible from your side. Its already proven.

let me see if i caan dig out the details of the gc who excnaged his property with tc property in larnaca. ipc agreed with dr mike tymvios to exchange his 600 donums of land near timbu airport with 27 donum of land and two schools and number of other businesses on it and they priced it at 21 million euros. eventually groc forced him t sell the tc properties he got from ipc for 13 million euros. he was conned. the properties in the south in larnaca were worth 21 million. the only way forward is to get tc property in the south of equal value. you are living in denial if you don't at least have a go at getting your propery's worth in the south. this was arabe land valued at 35,000 per donum and groc paid 21,660 per donum.

here it is

https://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2012/07/10/first-ever-land-swap-deal-approved/id=0012112?fbclid=IwAR17u1Z8vLoTnT96rWq4gHpsLUEDdNQNFQjGn1KLpNKner2ntryiRoSEjyU

you would be stupid not to try to exchange. you can even ask for your property back like the other fellow who got it back and built a house on it. unless thee is a specific reason like too close to a military base or somebody has built on it, it can also just as well returned to the original owner. have a look at the second link.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/10/20/greek-cypriot-returns-to-his-village-in-north-after-building-new-home/?fbclid=IwAR1r69MlTLtUhypN03-zv-ZFvAjyIZcaokolkEzAmxNeGGU4iWvPUBl-VcA

[Sotos]

It should but it doesn't right now. TC's are a lifeline for achieving this but you see us as the enemy and you have no problem showing us how much you hate us each time we cross over to the RoC.

I can see a day when vast majority of TC's will say fuck the GC's, they'll never accept us as Cypriots so we might as well become real Turks. Let the north be an annexe of Turkey. This is where we're heading with this problem.

We are currently on opposite sides at a cease fire of a war, with a 3rd of Cyprus under occupation. What did you expect? For the hostility to end, the cause of the hostility should end first. It can not be any other way.

What you are referring to is a non-issue. The reason TCs do not agree to a solution is not because GCs do not accept them as Cypriots, but because some of their demands, such as 50%-50% power sharing, all Settlers to stay, and Turkish guarantees, are not accepted.

I wonder if our interpretation of "the cause of the hostility" is the same?

I had a shop in north London back in the days of Nokia 101 and Ericsson 388. It was a busy shop dealing in Sky TV and satellites for Turks and Greeks. My little Ericsson went missing so I kept calling it. In the end I got an answer. I explained he would probably get 50 quid from another shop dealing in stolen goods, I offered him double. He asked for £200.00. I had no choice but to agree. I had all my contacts in that little phone so I had no choice. We arranged a place to meet, I had to promise I would go alone and would not not contact the police (not that those useless bastards would have been much help) and would give him crispy £50.00 notes. I did exactly that, even shook his hand and went back to my shop happy as though I had won the lottery.

Make of my story what you will

When you paid you got your whole phone back, for a price that presumably was lower than the value of that phone to you. What if the thief said he would return just part of what he stole, and instead of £200 he asked for £20.000?

This is a question of how much we get vs how much we give. The Turkish side offers too little and demands in return way too much, making an agreement impossible as we would be worst off with such agreement than without it.

That person who took your phone did what was in his interest. He managed to get you to pay him as high price as possible, without asking for a price that would be so high that you wouldn't agreed to, because in that case he would lose as well. In the case of TCs, they greedily ask for a price way too high, that we are not willing to give. As a result there will be no agreement, and they are the ones who will be the biggest losers.

If they agreed to the max that we are willing to offer, they would have their own federal state (with mostly TCs rather than Settlers), part of EU, and proportional representation in the government. Without agreement they will be absorbed by Turkey and become a tiny minority without any say at all, before they are absorbed and disappear altogether.

more bullshit again as per usual. all the tcs are asking is a fair exchange with prices worked out by the same authority which will calculate the vlaue of all properties. this is an authority wich will be set up that will be independent and fair.

you are just too stupid to realise the reality on the gorund. the values today are what they are and thats what we have to go on. you are not going to go back to the prices of 74 and buy and sell at that prices.

at least make some sonce you stupid idiot and you reckong you have a positive iq, like hell you do. you have a fakin -1000 iq you idiot.

but anyway the rabbit is caught in the trap, there is no escape. either you cut off a limb or you come to an amicable peace agreement. the choice is yours.

You are so stupid you didn't even understand what I wrote

I wasn't even talking about the issue of private properties, but since you mentioned it, a "fair exchange" can not be a forced exchange. The values today in the north are what they are because they are illegally occupied. If you don't offer a price that is acceptable to the owner, then the owner shouldn't have to sell it to you. And in the decision of the owner will not matter just the current value, but also the predicted future value.

Also, with the "solution" that you want Turkey would be off the hook regarding the properties. How the fuck are you going to pay for all those GC properties that you want to keep to house the 10s of thousands of Settlers that you imported? You do not have the money to buy them, even at a discount. What you want is for us to pay for them. Basically you expect from GCs to pay refugee GC compensations. You are clearly an idiot, but I assure you we aren't.

We have already offered to your minority very generous peace terms. Beyond that it is your choice if you want to remain a pseudo state and gradually start losing your RoC rights, while being absorbed by Turkey.

[Lordo]

you know exactly what to do with your minority rights you stupid child. now back into your cot and you are not allowed out till mummy returns. you hear and stop poking your finger in your ass you hear. and stop licking it afterwards.

[B25]

When Muslims are in the minority, they are concerned with minority rights, when Muslims are in the majority, there are NO minority rights. And that my dear Watson sums up you MFs to a 'T'.

Hade assirktir asshole.

[Lordo]

When Muslims are in the minority, they are concerned with minority rights, when Muslims are in the majority, there are NO minority rights. And that my dear Watson sums up you MFs to a 'T'.

Hade assirktir asshole.

you were to young to remember this on the gc radio when they were doing the worst in the 60s and terggish army was nowhere to be see except a few sorties over kochina and kofunye.

enjoy.

[Cap]

When Muslims are in the minority, they are concerned with minority rights, when Muslims are in the majority, there are NO minority rights. And that my dear Watson sums up you MFs to a 'T'.

Hade assirktir asshole.

you were to young to remember this on the gc radio when they were doing the worst in the 60s and terggish army was nowhere to be see except a few sorties over kochina and kofunye.

enjoy.

I've always maintained Greeks and Turks are first cousins.
It's us Cypriots that have to suffer for it.

[Maximus]

You are so stupid you didn't even understand what I wrote

He understood alright,

He understands pretty well.

He knows what is right and wrong but he has to keep the lies going because it is in his interest to do so.

It is in his interests to perpetuate the "TRNC" and whenever he is stuck he does what he does best to get out.

Insults, divert, make things up, go back in time 100 years where he can make more things up, post some youtube videos and type more insults.

Its just a micro level example of the wider problem and why this issue cant reach a just conclusion after 50 years.

[Lordo]

You are so stupid you didn't even understand what I wrote

He understood alright,

He understands pretty well.

He knows what is right and wrong but he has to keep the lies going because it is in his interest to do so.

It is in his interests to perpetuate the "TRNC" and whenever he is stuck he does what he does best to get out.

Insults, divert, make things up, go back in time 100 years where he can make more things up, post some youtube videos and type more insults.

Its just a micro level example of the wider problem and why this issue cant reach a just conclusion after 50 years.

divert where. it took me a fair bit of time to find you an example where exchange was asked for and the two sides reached an agreement. you seem to ignore it. so no more help for you young man. you have to find your own information from now on

but of course all the talks are based on equitable and fair exchange. there is no other solution being talked about.

if you are expecting anythng outside the un based framework you are pissing in the wind. we are not going to throw peopole out of their homes to make them refugees again. if people live in a roperty you will have a choices but throwing the current residents out aint going to be one of them boy.

was it not capelloui who found some video of 20 tcs on a lory asking for taksim and blamed all tcs for it saying thats what tcs wanted. my clip is song that was played by gc radio in the 60s to remind us that terggy was not coming to help us when while we were being attacked. and gues what they were as stupid as oyu are with your thinking now. it may of course be a dna thing, you inherit your stupidity from your ancestors.

as to me being a cousin of yours, i suspect not. nobody in the tc world is as stuid as you two and the few others too.

[MR-from-NG]

Guys, don't think I'm ignoring you. My pacemaker is giving me problems so will spend some time in hospital getting it sorted. Over to you Lordo

gecmish olsun gardah da brak bu pezzevenkleri bir yana. istirahatinga ve gendinge iyi bak.

Sagol Lordo gardas. Bunlarin egitimi oyle ki bizim soylediklermiz hep yalan gorunur.