MR-from-NG wrote:Sotos wrote:MR-from-NG wrote:It should but it doesn't right now. TC's are a lifeline for achieving this but you see us as the enemy and you have no problem showing us how much you hate us each time we cross over to the RoC.
I can see a day when vast majority of TC's will say fuck the GC's, they'll never accept us as Cypriots so we might as well become real Turks. Let the north be an annexe of Turkey. This is where we're heading with this problem.
We are currently on opposite sides at a cease fire of a war, with a 3rd of Cyprus under occupation. What did you expect?
For the hostility to end, the cause of the hostility should end first. It can not be any other way.What you are referring to is a non-issue. The reason TCs do not agree to a solution is not because GCs do not accept them as Cypriots, but because some of their demands, such as 50%-50% power sharing, all Settlers to stay, and Turkish guarantees, are not accepted.
I wonder if our interpretation of "the cause of the hostility" is the same?
I had a shop in north London back in the days of Nokia 101 and Ericsson 388. It was a busy shop dealing in Sky TV and satellites for Turks and Greeks. My little Ericsson went missing so I kept calling it. In the end I got an answer. I explained he would probably get 50 quid from another shop dealing in stolen goods, I offered him double. He asked for £200.00. I had no choice but to agree. I had all my contacts in that little phone so I had no choice. We arranged a place to meet, I had to promise I would go alone and would not not contact the police (not that those useless bastards would have been much help) and would give him crispy £50.00 notes. I did exactly that, even shook his hand and went back to my shop happy as though I had won the lottery.
Make of my story what you will
When you paid you got your whole phone back, for a price that presumably was lower than the value of that phone to you. What if the thief said he would return just part of what he stole, and instead of £200 he asked for £20.000?
This is a question of how much we get vs how much we give. The Turkish side offers too little and demands in return way too much, making an agreement impossible as we would be worst off with such agreement than without it.
That person who took your phone did what was in his interest. He managed to get you to pay him as high price as possible, without asking for a price that would be so high that you wouldn't agreed to, because in that case he would lose as well. In the case of TCs, they greedily ask for a price way too high, that we are not willing to give. As a result there will be no agreement, and they are the ones who will be the biggest losers.
If they agreed to the max that we are willing to offer, they would have their own federal state (with mostly TCs rather than Settlers), part of EU, and proportional representation in the government. Without agreement they will be absorbed by Turkey and become a tiny minority without any say at all, before they are absorbed and disappear altogether.
