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[Paphitis]

I had contemplated more than once moving to tranquil Hobart over the years, until that psychotic idiot screwed the place up.

What psychotic idiot?

Hobart is one of the most beautiful places in the world. Adelaide is better though as it’s bigger.

Melbourne is a great city. Not so great atm but it will come back in a month or so and remain a wonderful city. All our cities are great. Sydney and Brisbane too but they are too LAesque for me.

If things continue improving, I’ll be back in Brisbane mostly.

My favourite cities are Adelaide, Melbourne then Hobart.

Perth is like Brisbane and Sydney. Very LA esque

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arth ... (Australia)

Oh the mass shooting event in the 80s. Yes it was a terrible thing. But it can happen anywhere. We don’t have as many of these freak events as other places in Europe and the US.

But what amazes me is your claim it somehow changed Hobart from a Paradise to hell. It didn’t change Hobart or Tasmania at all. Hobart and Tasmania remain great places of bueaty. So if that changed your mind about Hobart, I would suggest you rearrange your thought processes completely.

Hobart today is better than it has ever been. Apart from the restrictions of course.

Your thinking is like me saying Cyprus was a paradise till that psycho ravaged the island in true Jack The Ripper fashion.

Here he is in all his glory posing in a CNG uniform.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc ... e-48744157

Yep Cyprus is a hell hole now because of him. Another reason for me not to come to Cyprus and go to Greece instead. Believe me when I tell you I would much rather be in Lefkada. Thanks for the ammo I can use against my wife. Might be stupid, but I shall give it a go and see if I can achieve my objective. Wish me luck...

[Get Real!]

Like I said… Hobart was tranquil until that happened. It certainly put me off from going there.

It’s easy for you today; 20 years later, to treat it like a statistic but I was in Aus. at the time and Hobart was in my mind as a potential residence so it had a profound effect on me.

[Paphitis]

Like I said… Hobart was tranquil until that happened. It certainly put me off from going there.

Hobart still is tranquil. In fact it is way better today than it was back then.

Tasmania is a natural paradise with the best climate, ocean, and beautiful country vistas that put to shame. It’s far more prettier than Cyprus is let me give you the tip.

There is no city or town in Cyprus that comes close to Hobart and Cyprus as a whole doesn’t come close to Tasmania. Maybe Beirut.

[Get Real!]

You don’t need to tell me that Australia has many pretty places… I know that from personal experience, but it also has many psychopaths like the US, Canada and the UK.

I would no longer contemplate living in any of these four countries.

[Paphitis]

You don’t need to tell me that Australia has many pretty places… I know that from personal experience, but it also has many psychopaths like the US, Canada and the UK.

I would no longer contemplate living in any of these four countries.

No it doesn’t have many psychos.

More crime than Cyprus. Yes probably because we have 26 times the population. Comparable to the US, or Europe? No it isn’t even close to Italy, France, UK and so on and so on.

Australia is still a place you can leave your car unlocked every day and nothing will happen for 10 years.

We do have a great civil society here.

And let’s knuckle down on your experience in Australia. Did you ever go to other places like Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Queensland or just Perth? Don’t get me wrong, Perth is nice. So is Brisbane really. But man, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Hobart are in another League if cities are your thing. Canberra our capital is a literal Washington. Built to be the Capital. When you go there you know that is the seat of our Government and the Central Nervous System of Australia.

I mean if you ever experience some of these places, you would never have gone back to Cyprus.

Have you been to Tasmania, or the Snowies? No KSA, Gold Coast, along the Victorian and NSW coastlines? Whitsundays, Barrier Reef, Port Douglas?

[Paphitis]

You don’t need to tell me that Australia has many pretty places… I know that from personal experience, but it also has many psychopaths like the US, Canada and the UK.

I would no longer contemplate living in any of these four countries.

Get Real, I’ve been speaking to you for a long time. And do you want to know which place in Australia would have fitted your personality and character most of all? It isn’t Perth. Or Hobart. Nor Brisbane either.

And I reckon that leaves Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide.

Adelaide is the easiest, and with a great lifestyle.

Sydney would be too busy for you and probably too Americanised and less European.

Your oasis would have been Melbourne. Why? Because it has a massive Greek population and heaps of Cypriots. Third largest Greek city in the world.

Bouzoukia, Zivania, Souvla every day if you wanted it. Better nightlife than anywhere in Cyprus. Bars, clubs, pubs and an extremely family orientated Greek and Cypriot scene.

Melbourne would have been the place for you but it is more Kalamaristica. But fun, and quite lively.

Sydney has the biggest Cypriot population. About 100000 Cypriots. But Sydney would have killed you and dragged you down.

If you are not wealthy, Sydney is not a good place. It means you would live in an outer suburb and be commuting 2 + hours everyday. If you are a millionaire, then sure Sydney because you can live in Bondi, Manly or near the Harbour. You would then be set.

Melbourne is the place for you, then Adelaide and then Sydney.

[Paphitis]

Only problem is that if you were in Melbourne now or today, you wouldn’t know what hit you. Not a good place to be in today.

But under normal conditions, Melbourne is awesome. Melbourne is everything rolled into one. It’s a little Greece, a little Italy, a little bit of Britain, a little bit of China, and it is the center of Australian culture, sport, stacks of night life of your choice (Greek, Italian, or Aussie or Irish) and it’s even something like Agia Napa multiplied by a factor of 1000. It’s insane.

The best part of Melbourne of course are the cafes, bars, pubs, restaurants. Melbourne is amazing.

You could wrap yourself into a Greek and a Cypriot bubble very easily in Melbourne if you wanted to.

You would have had access to a major city and still have all the Cypriotness you want. And when you get sick of it (and you will) you can try something different for a while and then get back to your Cypriotness again (which you will).

And you would have lived among the Kalamaraes as well and felt at home no matter how much you call them monkeys.

[CrookedRiverGuy]

No it doesn’t have many psychos.

More crime than Cyprus. Yes probably because we have 26 times the population. Comparable to the US, or Europe? No it isn’t even close to Italy, France, UK and so on and so on.

Australia is still a place you can leave your car unlocked every day and nothing will happen for 10 years.

Well, slightly better than UK and Italy, I'll give you that, but:

According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country Australia ranks in the middle with a higher crime rate than countries like Albania, Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Georgia, India, Latvia, Lithuania, Palestine, Philippines, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Tunisia and Turkey to name a few.

Not exactly the safe heaven you desperately try to picture it as.

The fact that Cyprus ranks in a better position has nothing to do with size.

[Paphitis]

No it doesn’t have many psychos.

More crime than Cyprus. Yes probably because we have 26 times the population. Comparable to the US, or Europe? No it isn’t even close to Italy, France, UK and so on and so on.

Australia is still a place you can leave your car unlocked every day and nothing will happen for 10 years.

Well, slightly better than UK and Italy, I'll give you that, but:

According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country Australia ranks in the middle with a higher crime rate than countries like Albania, Azerbaijan, Belarus, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Georgia, India, Latvia, Lithuania, Palestine, Philippines, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Tunisia and Turkey to name a few.

Not exactly the safe heaven you desperately try to picture it as.

The fact that Cyprus ranks in a better position has nothing to do with size.

Not sure. Maybe true with petty crime or because of our reporting but let me give you the tip, I feel safer walking the streets of Sydney, Brisbane or Adelaide than I do in parts of Cyprus.

The most dangerous place right now is Nelbourne and that’s not because of any criminals but our POLICE.

We aren’t infested with crime in Australia. We always pride ourselves as being the most liveable country in the world.

But besides that, we have an organised crime issue surrounding illegal narcotics. One of the largest cocaine busts were found in a shipment of imported Cypriot Souvlas. The person responsible, a Cypriot probably.

We have had this in Australia since the 70s.

One of the most notorious Australian criminals being a notorious Greek known as Mr X. They made a Series (Underbelly) about him on TV. His Brotxxxxxxxxx on the richest 200 list for Australia and owns a Greek Super League team and cruises the Greek Islands on his super yacht.

His associates only just arrested in Greece and extradited.

Australia was always quite effective in combatting organised crime because the Government puts many resources into it.

In Cyprus or Greece, the thing you fear is the punk that comes to steal your wife’s handbag.

In Australia, these petty crimes are a lot more rare. We have organised crime or we are better at detecting it. What does this mean for the average person. Nothing because the people in organised crime aren’t going to steal your handbag or kidnap your kid or harm you.

Anyone who has walked the streets of Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne or Adelaide does so with the expectation they are safe and nothing will happen to them.

BTW, Australia definitely doesn’t have higher crime that many of those countries that you mention some of which I have been to and I can tell you that if Australia has higher crime then some of them, I’ll eat my hat. Countries like China, Palestine, Albania, Philippines, Russia, Turkey, and many more do not have lower crime than Australia.

You are just comparing a country that is probably the most transparent in the world and will report someone who spits chewing gum on the walk path as a crime.

A tester, would you leave your kid alone in Turkey, China, Palestine, Albania, Malaysia or in Sydney. I would feel a lot more at ease in Sydney.

A bit like COVID stats. Australian COVID stays hold more credence than Chinese COVID stats.

Funnily enough though, I believe you about countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE. They’ll chip your balls off there!

[Paphitis]

My wife just told me I might need to take into consideration some dietary requirements such as vegetarians and vegans!

So I might have to have a little fouko going to cook some lamb souvla Cyprus style to meet these needs. Add some Chicken and fish, and prawns.

Problem solved!