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[erolz66]

What mere mortal can argue with such a woke explaination. I wont even try but defer to the gender God chose.

As you are entitled to do so and whilst I personally do not share a same view as you with regards to the role god plays in all of this, I do not consider and would not call your view 'wrong' in and of itself and by extension mine 'right'. They are just different to me and nothing more. I would only declare it wrong if and when it leads to outcomes of measurable harm. Like for example if your world view says that god has declared homosexuality wrong and thus we must marginalise and persecute homosexuals because that is what god tells us to do.

As to this 'woke' thing and in the context of classical christian notions of final judgement, do you think someone being so judged that had led a life of being 'alert to injustice in society, especially racism' (the first dictionary definition of woke when I googled it), would be 'marked down' by that god in the 'tally' of their life led ?

The only thing I will say is that this doesn't mean that the women is scared of a castrated man that dresses like a women.

What about fear of difference to themselves, their beliefs, their myths ?

[erolz66]

For a country whose people suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis, to then go on and repeat the same heinous acts against another people whilst they steal their land, really is contemptible.

For me an abuser who was themselves abused is less 'contemptible' than an abuser who was not themselves abused. Contemptible is not really the right word I suspect but hopefully some degree of what I am trying to say here still comes across none the less.

[Paphitis]

Is anyone surprised that Labour = Debauchery?

That is the sort of silly and uninformed comment that shows why people with little capacity for common sense can confuse those with no capacity for common sense! Thank goodness they are the minority!

My take on this is paphtitis real problem, despite what he claims, is with tolerance. He does not want our children, our society to be taught tolerance. He wants them them to be taught that his world view, his beliefs alone are the singular right ones and anyone who might have a different world view is a 'pervert'.

No I'm not tolerant to absolute stupidity and debauchery.

So you claim but actions always speak louder than words in my book. You clearly want our children to be taught to be intolerant of anything you personally declare and deem is 'wrong', which is basically anything different than yourself. You do not base 'wrong' on outcomes, on material harm done and metrics along spectrums like those. You base it on the spectrum of difference to you. If it is different to you, different to your opinions, different to beliefs, your faiths, your myths then by 'definition' such is 'wrong'.

Nope, I just don't want my children to have their heads filled with stupid things.

[Paphitis]

The problem The Rabbi has and all those that are making these accusations of Labours anti-Semitism, is that it is a political agenda not a religious one !

A Labour government would no doubt be a threat to Israel as they regard their actions as being illegal and immoral and recognise the Palestinians terrible treatment at their hands. For a country whose people suffered so much at the hands of the Nazis, to then go on and repeat the same heinous acts against another people whilst they steal their land, really is contemptible. To not recognise that and to go on and condemn the accuser of being anti-Semitic, is just as contemptible.

Back to Labour’s ‘anti-Semitism’ ...........

I believe that the real reason for these accusations of Labour’s ‘anti-Semitism’ is that certain Labour policies, which are not given much Air-Time, are a serious threat to the existing banking and financial system. The Bankers and The Elite that enjoy the benefits of the present system, could see the people suddenly wake up as to how the Banks have screwed them for decades (Over 100 years) and are the reason for the need for austerity. As previously pointed out, Zionism, the Banking system and The Elite, are synonymous and all share a common fear. The implementation of a State Investment Bank would wipe billions off the profits of the Banks and thus would also directly affect the Elite.

But the Banks could not fight out in the open as it would have the very same result .... the People would wise up to the simple fact as to how these Bankers have become so rich whilst the people have faced austerity just to pay them for providing a service that would be far better for the economy and the people, if it was provided by the State. Anti-Semitism accusations are the ideal solution as it turns the attention from the sins of the Bankers and The Elites, who now as ‘Jews’, become the people under attack .... the victims!

This Labour Government would be a threat to the UK.

And we all know it, hence there is ZERO chance labour will win.

Israel doesn't give a flying rats arse whether Corbynated Chicken wins or not. No one takes the Chicken seriously anyway.

It won't make any difference to Israel but it would be an embarrassment to the UK.

The Corbynated Chicken has much bigger problems than antisemitism which isn't a vote changer anyway. To even consider Corbynated Chicken a serious threat to anything is astonishing. Labour are facing complete obliteration on the 12th of December.

[Maximus]

What mere mortal can argue with such a woke explaination. I wont even try but defer to the gender God chose.

As you are entitled to do so and whilst I personally do not share a same view as you with regards to the role god plays in all of this, I do not consider and would not call your view 'wrong' in and of itself and by extension mine 'right'. They are just different to me and nothing more. I would only declare it wrong if and when it leads to outcomes of measurable harm. Like for example if your world view says that god has declared homosexuality wrong and thus we must marginalise and persecute homosexuals because that is what god tells us to do.

I am just saying that sex was decided before birth. Not by man or women.

Nothing more.

After that, and in modern times, due to medical advances, a man or women has a choice.

But that does not mean that everyone else will agree.

As to this 'woke' thing and in the context of classical christian notions of final judgement, do you think someone being so judged that had led a life of being 'alert to injustice in society, especially racism' (the first dictionary definition of woke when I googled it), would be 'marked down' by that god in the 'tally' of their life led ?

I dont understand what you are talking about.

The only thing I will say is that this doesn't mean that the women is scared of a castrated man that dresses like a women.

What about fear of difference to themselves, their beliefs, their myths ?

I think you are taking this too far to an extreme to try and make your point. At least to me, it is extreame enough that it starts to not make sense.

There is nothing wrong with being different, to believe in different things. But again, it doesnt mean that others have to agree with you.

But others might see you as strange or odd and not want to associate with it or you. I will leave it at that and that should be fair enough right?

calling someone a "phob" to try and force it is more often than not, a manipulative tactic.

And that is what we are talking about. how that word means fear and it literally doesnt make sense in the context that it is being used in many debates.

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis

This Labour Government would be a threat to the UK.

And we all know it, hence there is ZERO chance labour will win.

Israel doesn't give a flying rats arse whether Corbynated Chicken wins or not. No one takes the Chicken seriously anyway.

It won't make any difference to Israel but it would be an embarrassment to the UK.

The Corbynated Chicken has much bigger problems than antisemitism which isn't a vote changer anyway. To even consider Corbynated Chicken a serious threat to anything is astonishing. Labour are facing complete obliteration on the 12th of December.

What do you know about ..... a 'State Investment Bank', 'QE for the People not The Banks' or 'Modern Monetary Theory' ? I would guess .... NOT A LOT?

If what you say is so, why have the MSM and various interest groups been so determined to cast Labour as anti-Semitic and try to make them unelectable ? The Bankers and The Elite are shit scared of something ...... if they all thought like you they wouldn't waste their time! So either you have got it wrong or they have?

[Paphitis]

Paphitis

This Labour Government would be a threat to the UK.

And we all know it, hence there is ZERO chance labour will win.

Israel doesn't give a flying rats arse whether Corbynated Chicken wins or not. No one takes the Chicken seriously anyway.

It won't make any difference to Israel but it would be an embarrassment to the UK.

The Corbynated Chicken has much bigger problems than antisemitism which isn't a vote changer anyway. To even consider Corbynated Chicken a serious threat to anything is astonishing. Labour are facing complete obliteration on the 12th of December.

What do you know about ..... a 'State Investment Bank', 'QE for the People not The Banks' or 'Modern Monetary Theory' ? I would guess .... NOT A LOT?

If what you say is so, why have the MSM and various interest groups been so determined to cast Labour as anti-Semitic and try to make them unelectable ? The Bankers and The Elite are shit scared of something ...... if they all thought like you they wouldn't waste their time! So either you have got it wrong or they have?

What I know is you are going on and on about completely irrelevant stuff since the Corbynated Chicken will be history in 12 days time.

He will be packing his bags for good because he is going to get demolished.

No one cares about Labour's antisemitism. This isn't the issue that will demolish labour to kingdom comer!

Antisemiticism was not manufactured because Labour was a threat. They are looking at the worst electoral defeat since 1966 with or without the antisemitism. The Toties are now in cruise control. Al;l they have to do is play it safe and its in the bag.

Labour has gone all goofball far left and abandoned the interests of the worker who want economic growth and job security and the majority also want BREXIT dealt with too,

[Paphitis]

We are in the final countdown to total Labour destruction. And what a sight for sore eyes that's going to be.

The swamp is about to drained like never before.

And the best thing is, Tories are going to have a majority, so they can do whatever friggin hell they want! Real government is on its way!

[erolz66]

Nope, I just don't want my children to have their heads filled with stupid things.

Your children or everyone's children ?

[Paphitis]

Nope, I just don't want my children to have their heads filled with stupid things.

Your children or everyone's children ?

Everyones children.

The mainstream just want good family values.

Haven't met anyone who would be happy about boys using female toilets.

You keep that shit in your own homes and away from our kiddies thanks.

Geez you people are all fecked up!