cyprusgrump wrote:Lordo wrote:at least have the decency to say what was actually said. you are just bullshitting.
left wing people are agaist israel and bankers (tories). it may be that because a some jewsih people happen to be bankers and they are not very articulate in how they say what they say.
have the common decency to tell us what was said by so called corbiynistas so we can all understand what is going on.
otherwise you is just one hughmangous bullshitter.
evidence please of at least what said by whom? don't have to prove it as yet but eventually you will have to.
so stooooop bullshitting.
I provided the link to the article and the video showing the full interviews...
Were you really too stupid to click it...?
Of course not, you've just reverted to 'insult mode' as you always do...
A lot of the points Lordo makes, although NOT the way he promotes them, I think are valid.
Anti-Semitism needs to be delineated to take it back to the original meaning ..... that being aggression against Jews because they are Jews. There are those that still firmly believe that ‘Zionist’ is a derogatory word for a Jew and as the Israeli Government is politically Zionist in belief and intent, then it automatically means any reference in speech to Zionism or Zionist is anti-Semitic. Any support for the plight of the Palestinians is treated in the same way ..... say a single word against Israel or Zionists and that gets you labelled an anti-Semite.
The problems all stem from Zionism ..... not Judaism!
It is a well known fact that the Jews, and most of them are also Zionists, dominate the media and the Banking/financial system. Also many US Senators are also Zionists and it is a right of passage through US politics that to get anywhere the members are granted dual US/Israeli citizenship and a refusal usually means the end of a US Senators political career.
I do not believe, going back into Corbyn’s history and his stance against anti-Semitism, that he would either allow any attacks on Jews or tolerate anti-Semitism in the Party. BUT ...... Zionism and being a Jew are not synonymous and it is the failure to separate the two that allows Zionist’s to hide under the protective umbrella that laws against anti-Semitism rightly supply.
Many of the accusations you posted fall into this modern definition of anti-Semitism in the oblique defence of Zionism is, in itself, creating anti-Semitism ...... when it should really be labelled what it really is ...... anti-Zionism or anti-Israelism and I don’t think there are many that would defend either’s right to commit the crimes they are committing in Gaza and the West Bank !
I firmly believe these accusations are for political gains for the benefit of The Elite, many of whom are Zionists, and the Labour Party is a threat to them ...... NOT JEWS per se!