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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:20 pm

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Lordo wrote:at least have the decency to say what was actually said. you are just bullshitting.

left wing people are agaist israel and bankers (tories). it may be that because a some jewsih people happen to be bankers and they are not very articulate in how they say what they say.

have the common decency to tell us what was said by so called corbiynistas so we can all understand what is going on.

otherwise you is just one hughmangous bullshitter.

evidence please of at least what said by whom? don't have to prove it as yet but eventually you will have to.

so stooooop bullshitting.



I provided the link to the article and the video showing the full interviews... :wink:

Were you really too stupid to click it...? :lol:

Of course not, you've just reverted to 'insult mode' as you always do... :roll:


A lot of the points Lordo makes, although NOT the way he promotes them, I think are valid.

Anti-Semitism needs to be delineated to take it back to the original meaning ..... that being aggression against Jews because they are Jews. There are those that still firmly believe that ‘Zionist’ is a derogatory word for a Jew and as the Israeli Government is politically Zionist in belief and intent, then it automatically means any reference in speech to Zionism or Zionist is anti-Semitic. Any support for the plight of the Palestinians is treated in the same way ..... say a single word against Israel or Zionists and that gets you labelled an anti-Semite.

The problems all stem from Zionism ..... not Judaism!

It is a well known fact that the Jews, and most of them are also Zionists, dominate the media and the Banking/financial system. Also many US Senators are also Zionists and it is a right of passage through US politics that to get anywhere the members are granted dual US/Israeli citizenship and a refusal usually means the end of a US Senators political career.

I do not believe, going back into Corbyn’s history and his stance against anti-Semitism, that he would either allow any attacks on Jews or tolerate anti-Semitism in the Party. BUT ...... Zionism and being a Jew are not synonymous and it is the failure to separate the two that allows Zionist’s to hide under the protective umbrella that laws against anti-Semitism rightly supply.

Many of the accusations you posted fall into this modern definition of anti-Semitism in the oblique defence of Zionism is, in itself, creating anti-Semitism ...... when it should really be labelled what it really is ...... anti-Zionism or anti-Israelism and I don’t think there are many that would defend either’s right to commit the crimes they are committing in Gaza and the West Bank !

I firmly believe these accusations are for political gains for the benefit of The Elite, many of whom are Zionists, and the Labour Party is a threat to them ...... NOT JEWS per se!
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:23 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:HOW CORBYNISTAS REACT WHEN THEY THINK CORBYN’S ANTI-SEMITISM WAS SAID BY BORIS

Corbynistas were approached this week with anti-Semitic quotes to see if they think the person who said them is fit for office. But there’s a twist! When the Labour activists were told the quotes were said by Boris they said he was unfit for office. Upon being told the truth their squirming is excruciating…


I wonder which one of the weirdos is Bore-Dough...? :?

thats because i can smell bullshit i don't need to look at it.

he invited this and he invited that. cut the bull shit and post a single anti-semite word that he has ever said. are you going to be a fakin kant all your life.

just one post of what he actually said that is anti-semetic in the proper sense. who he sat next to or what he said about anybody else does not count.

anti-semetic words dear booooooooooooooooooooooy. lets see it.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:19 pm

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cyprusgrump wrote:HOW CORBYNISTAS REACT WHEN THEY THINK CORBYN’S ANTI-SEMITISM WAS SAID BY BORIS

Corbynistas were approached this week with anti-Semitic quotes to see if they think the person who said them is fit for office. But there’s a twist! When the Labour activists were told the quotes were said by Boris they said he was unfit for office. Upon being told the truth their squirming is excruciating…


I wonder which one of the weirdos is Bore-Dough...? :?

thats because i can smell bullshit i don't need to look at it.

he invited this and he invited that. cut the bull shit and post a single anti-semite word that he has ever said. are you going to be a fakin kant all your life.

just one post of what he actually said that is anti-semetic in the proper sense. who he sat next to or what he said about anybody else does not count.

anti-semetic words dear booooooooooooooooooooooy. lets see it.



Nah, you watched it! :wink:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:35 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:HOW CORBYNISTAS REACT WHEN THEY THINK CORBYN’S ANTI-SEMITISM WAS SAID BY BORIS

Corbynistas were approached this week with anti-Semitic quotes to see if they think the person who said them is fit for office. But there’s a twist! When the Labour activists were told the quotes were said by Boris they said he was unfit for office. Upon being told the truth their squirming is excruciating…


I wonder which one of the weirdos is Bore-Dough...? :?

thats because i can smell bullshit i don't need to look at it.

he invited this and he invited that. cut the bull shit and post a single anti-semite word that he has ever said. are you going to be a fakin kant all your life.

just one post of what he actually said that is anti-semetic in the proper sense. who he sat next to or what he said about anybody else does not count.

anti-semetic words dear booooooooooooooooooooooy. lets see it.



Nah, you watched it! :wink:

still wating, one simple anti-semetic word. is it too much to ask, here is jc being arrested for attending anti-apartheid demonstration. show me another mp as principled as jc. this while your heroes were snorting cocaine and smoking weed.

so i am still wating for one thing he has said that can be said to be anti-semetic. and you will be called an asshole till you do. that's a promise. asssshole

here is a few other things he organised too.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:40 am

It just gets better and better... :lol:

Even Labour have released a report on their institutional anti-semiticism within their tanks.

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:49 am

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Paphitis wrote:What you 2 buffoons don't get is the fact I don't care, because in 8 days i's about to get very real for you because the Coris is hoing to reign down on you fools like the Holy Ghost! 8)

And I'm gonna be here rubbing your nose in it and laughing at you 2.


Paphitis, more and more you are coming across as a very mean spirited person with your comments. :shock:

This can’t be very positive attitude as someone in your profession which may distract you from your responsibilities to be calm and collective in decision makings in safety when you demonstrate such vindictive remarks regarding Brexit, Tories/Conservatives and Labour/Democrats.

Just a thought!


Mmmm, me mean spirited? Never been accused of that before Kikapu.

I'm actually an extremely happy individuals who also has a very active life apart from flying. But I am extremely fatigued right now. I'm flying too much. Companies are pushing the envelope now. What we do today was illegal only a few years ago but the Fatigue Risk management everyone operates under now is awful. But it is what it so there is nothing I can do about it.

I'm trying to be the next Head of Training and Checking and hang around the Sim doing Checks.

Lordo and RH actually deserve it - RH in particular because he is a Brexiteer supposedly. What a turncoat! Lordo on the other hand is just a little bit simply.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:53 am

Labour and Liberal Democrats to create an Islamic State of Great Britain for all future Muslim generations. :lol:

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:00 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:What you 2 buffoons don't get is the fact I don't care, because in 8 days i's about to get very real for you because the Coris is hoing to reign down on you fools like the Holy Ghost! 8)

And I'm gonna be here rubbing your nose in it and laughing at you 2.


Paphitis, more and more you are coming across as a very mean spirited person with your comments. :shock:

This can’t be very positive attitude as someone in your profession which may distract you from your responsibilities to be calm and collective in decision makings in safety when you demonstrate such vindictive remarks regarding Brexit, Tories/Conservatives and Labour/Democrats.

Just a thought!


Mmmm, me mean spirited? Never been accused of that before Kikapu.

I'm actually an extremely happy individuals who also has a very active life apart from flying. But I am extremely fatigued right now. I'm flying too much. Companies are pushing the envelope now. What we do today was illegal only a few years ago but the Fatigue Risk management everyone operates under now is awful. But it is what it so there is nothing I can do about it.

I'm trying to be the next Head of Training and Checking and hang around the Sim doing Checks.

Lordo and RH actually deserve it - RH in particular because he is a Brexiteer supposedly. What a turncoat! Lordo on the other hand is just a little bit simply.


Well, maybe you are having a “burn out” at work that is causing you to lashing out in negative terms.

I understand politics and religious discussions can get out of hand where at times which people can lose friends and even family members over it, but it is good to try and keep emotions in check so not to lose it completely. Using faul language is a good antidote
to release stress on this forum. :wink:
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:43 am

[quote="Paphitis"]It just gets better and better... :lol:

Even Labour have released a report on their institutional anti-semiticism within their tanks.[/quote}

You are one person who most noticeably conflates anti-Semitism ....... with every other 'ism that has attached to it over the years. Most of these accusations are not directed at Corbyn but come under the same umbrella, that anything said against Israel, the Bankers, the Media Moguls and Zionists in general and any support for he Palestinians is automatically considered as anti-Semitic. The whole concept has been distorted because of an all encompassing inclusion of anything that could be remotely 'Jewish' being misconstrued and misdirected.

No one could be more opposed to anti-Semitism .... than Corbyn! The whole anti-Semitic campaign is political ..... not religious, in fact it is not even anti-Semitic at all. Labour is a serious threat to the Elite and the banking and financial system and they are to a very great extent Zionists or sympathisers.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:17 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:What you 2 buffoons don't get is the fact I don't care, because in 8 days i's about to get very real for you because the Coris is hoing to reign down on you fools like the Holy Ghost! 8)

And I'm gonna be here rubbing your nose in it and laughing at you 2.


Paphitis, more and more you are coming across as a very mean spirited person with your comments. :shock:

This can’t be very positive attitude as someone in your profession which may distract you from your responsibilities to be calm and collective in decision makings in safety when you demonstrate such vindictive remarks regarding Brexit, Tories/Conservatives and Labour/Democrats.

Just a thought!


Mmmm, me mean spirited? Never been accused of that before Kikapu.

I'm actually an extremely happy individuals who also has a very active life apart from flying. But I am extremely fatigued right now. I'm flying too much. Companies are pushing the envelope now. What we do today was illegal only a few years ago but the Fatigue Risk management everyone operates under now is awful. But it is what it so there is nothing I can do about it.

I'm trying to be the next Head of Training and Checking and hang around the Sim doing Checks.

Lordo and RH actually deserve it - RH in particular because he is a Brexiteer supposedly. What a turncoat! Lordo on the other hand is just a little bit simply.


Well, maybe you are having a “burn out” at work that is causing you to lashing out in negative terms.

I understand politics and religious discussions can get out of hand where at times which people can lose friends and even family members over it, but it is good to try and keep emotions in check so not to lose it completely. Using faul language is a good antidote
to release stress on this forum. :wink:


Burnout? Maybe sometimes. The pendulum swings. Multi Crew is safe because both pilots come together like a symphony orchestra, with all the right cues, procedures and patter and the system is designed as an error catch.

Lashing out? Not the kind of guy to lash out. FOs generally love me because I have been around the blocks and don't need to impress anyone and am very laid back. They are free to relax, learn and follow procedure and even make the occasional mistake without me making a big song and dance over it and without me intimidating them to not make deviation call outs. Every pilot can make mistakes no matter what the experience and FOs are there to do a job and I actually take the time to teach them stuff. FO can get you out of strive some times. So I want them at their peak performance and they won't be at their best with a shallow command gradient.

Some pilots take things personally when getting a call out and I don't. I clap and encourage them and they find that refreshing.

One of our Captains actually destroyed one of our FOs confidence so they assigned them over to me and I had to undo all the damage and build this guys confidence up from scratch. I gave him a few pep talks and told him there are no Sky Gods here so just relax and we will make a day of it and learn.

I know a lot about Human factors and Psychology and can figure people out and make them learn to their best of their capability with positive reinforcement and I know how far to let things go before intervening.

As for emotion. Well I am the least emotional guy there is practically speaking. I really don't give a stuff, but I am happy BORIS has it in the bag. That isn't emotion. That is relief that the people's vote in 2016 will be implemented That is what it comes down to.
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