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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby erolz66 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:26 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
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Robin Hood wrote:This is all about...


Imo not all, but yes to a large significant degree. Antisemitism does exist. In the labour party just as in all others and society in general as well, this forum included as we have just seen yet again.


Anti-XXXX in just about everything exists! The Zionists have hidden behind the Jews since the very concept of Zionism and Zionism had only one purpose a Homeland for the 'Jews'. They now have it ...... mainly stolen from others and have the US at their back. But it was more a homeland for the Zionists than one for Jews, they used Judaism as a cover for their intent and as usual it is the Jewish people that take the brunt of it as they have done so often over the centuries.

I have no problems with Jews or their Faith ...... but I am not a fan of Netanyahu or the Zionist regime, I consider them inherently evil! If that is what anti-Semitism is now ..... then I am antisemitic but not anti-Semitic!


I think we have very similar views on this issue. Pretty much identical. I just balked at the idea that there was no anti semitism in the labour party at all, which is probably more about my aversion to 'black and white' views and descriptions of the world and I accept was 'interpreted' by me from what you wrote but may well not have been what you meant to convey at all.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:00 am

anyway hot news you will not here till it happens. top secret and must not be repeated.

corbyn has ordered mod to train the guns of hms belfast on hendon and and finchley areas and fire as soon as he moves into no 10. no further orders are necesary. i repsectfully inform all my jewish friends whom i feel an obligation to help as my school had 50% jewish kids so that they are able to save their families from what is about to happen to them.
i have had this picture analysed extensively and accroding to the position of the tower the trajectory and angle ofelevation the guns are aimed at those houses in those two areas. oh by the way north finchley is also another possibility.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Paphitis » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:19 am

Corbyn pledges to apologize to the Jewish Community for endemic antisemitic. :D

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:35 am

Paphitis wrote:Corbyn pledges to apologize to the Jewish Community for endemic antisemitic. :D



I didn't here him say anything of the sort! Why should he apologise? Apologise for what? Why is it so difficult to find any comment he has made on TV or in the news media in general, that could be taken as anti-Semitic? He goes out of his way to condemn it in all walks of life and applied to any religion!

It is anti-Semitic to suggest that Bankers are in the main Jews! It is anti-Semitic to suggest Jews have a major and dominant ownership of the TV and News media! It is anti-Semitic to suggest that Israel commits human rights abuses in Gaza and the West Bank! It is anti-Semitic to accuse Israel of building settlements contrary to the Geneva Convention? To me all those are fully justified, because they are either true and/or because they are not anti-Jewish.

The anti-Semitism is being hyped to prevent any chance of Corbyn forming a Labour Government, not because he is anti-Semitic but because he has some regard for the Palestinians and criticises the Zionist Israeli Government.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Londonrake » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:01 pm

RH.

I don't believe that these accusations have tended to target Corbyn specifically for the sin of antisemitism. It's more the case that under his leadership there's been a significant increase in the phenomena within Labour and that he has done little, beyond patronising and non-effective words, to deal with it. The man's dilemma is his most loyal, far-left members nowadays are on the whole a group of very pro-ME, rabidly anti-Israel/banker types (well, a bit like you! :wink: )

It doesn't sound like you watched the disastrous Neill/Corbyn interview. The reason it appears the man is pulling out of 7 further such planned events. The first 10 minutes or so concentrated upon the subject of antisemitism in the Labour party.

Neill challenged Corbyn 3 times to answer whether “Rothschild’s Zionists run Israel and world governments” was an antisemitic statement. Only upon his third, persistent, attempt did he get the answer that it indeed was. Neil pointed out that they were the words of a Labour member and former council candidate and that despite being investigated for a whole year, the man hadn’t been suspended from the party for it. Corbyn had previously said that anyone who’d been antisemitic had been suspended or expelled from the party.

Neill then pointed out a Labour woman who had posted a video arguing that the holocaust was a myth. After an investigation her punishment was a written warning.

Earlier that day Corbyn had attended a Labour event on “race and faith”, where he’d said antisemitism was vile and unacceptable. And yet, two of the prospective Labour candidates sitting alongside him had themselves been accused of it.

Neill asked Corbyn, as leader of the Labour party, whether he wished to take the opportunity to apologise to the Jewish community on their behalf for such things. He didn’t, instead launching into a banal, set-piece speech at which point Neill abandoned the subject all together.

Quite a few long standing members of the Labour party, including some of its MPs have left because of their unhappiness with the situation. Such things can be dismissed by confining the discussion to Israel and the evil Jewish bankers/media oligarchs but to suggest that there is no such problem is risible.

I think the most pro-Corbyn poster on this forum is Lordo. His rote-learned outpourings would make Momentum proud. If you want to get a glimpse of the mind set I recommend you read his post 3 above this, which pretty much says it all. That's the sort of thing you are apparently in denial about.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:51 pm

Londonrake wrote:RH.

I don't believe that these accusations have tended to target Corbyn specifically for the sin of antisemitism. It's more the case that under his leadership there's been a significant increase in the phenomena within Labour and that he has done little, beyond patronising and non-effective words, to deal with it. The man's dilemma is his most loyal, far-left members nowadays are on the whole a group of very pro-ME, rabidly anti-Israel/banker types (well, a bit like you! :wink: )

It doesn't sound like you watched the disastrous Neill/Corbyn interview. The reason it appears the man is pulling out of 7 further such planned events. The first 10 minutes or so concentrated upon the subject of antisemitism in the Labour party.

Neill challenged Corbyn 3 times to answer whether “Rothschild’s Zionists run Israel and world governments” was an antisemitic statement. Only upon his third, persistent, attempt did he get the answer that it indeed was. Neil pointed out that they were the words of a Labour member and former council candidate and that despite being investigated for a whole year, the man hadn’t been suspended from the party for it. Corbyn had previously said that anyone who’d been antisemitic had been suspended or expelled from the party.

Neill then pointed out a Labour woman who had posted a video arguing that the holocaust was a myth. After an investigation her punishment was a written warning.

Earlier that day Corbyn had attended a Labour event on “race and faith”, where he’d said antisemitism was vile and unacceptable. And yet, two of the prospective Labour candidates sitting alongside him had themselves been accused of it.

Neill asked Corbyn, as leader of the Labour party, whether he wished to take the opportunity to apologise to the Jewish community on their behalf for such things. He didn’t, instead launching into a banal, set-piece speech at which point Neill abandoned the subject all together.

Quite a few long standing members of the Labour party, including some of its MPs have left because of their unhappiness with the situation. Such things can be dismissed by confining the discussion to Israel and the evil Jewish bankers/media oligarchs but to suggest that there is no such problem is risible.

I think the most pro-Corbyn poster on this forum is Lordo. His rote-learned outpourings would make Momentum proud. If you want to get a glimpse of the mind set I recommend you read his post 3 above this, which pretty much says it all. That's the sort of thing you are apparently in denial about.

i thinkyou willhave tofirst understand the meaningof significant. there are 600 complains in a party with a membership of 500,000. that is 0.001% now compare that with the country that has about 8% antisemitism accross the board, it is more of a case that netanyahu is petrified that corbyn will get in and will not support his murderous activities in the middle east.

it used to be that to be antisimetic you had to say something hateful about jews and generalise it to all the jews, now if some very inportant jewish people hate you then you are declared an antisemitic. of course it is not just these jews that hate corbym itis alos th elite in the uk.

and of course here is a letter youwillnot be reading in the media today.
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Re: anti-semitism in labour

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:58 pm

now here is a picture you will not see in the media that easily. lets see if you can work out what it means.

let me just remind you the the second swine is.


Gregory Lauder-Frost spouted bile about justice campaigner Baroness Lawrence , who he called a “n*****”, and broadcaster Vanessa Feltz , who he dismissed as a “fat Jewish s**g”.
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