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[Lordo]

Nobody I know is at all confused about Jeremy Corbyn. And, unlike yourself, most are either just ordinary working class people or are retired as such, with associated temperate political views.

The people who’ve known Corbyn best, over many years of working alongside him, are Labour MPs. They voted 197 - 40 to get rid of him as their leader. These people haven’t changed their views but are now on doorsteps pleading for Corbyn votes. Gutless hypocrites, the lot of them.

Meanwhile, Momentum people like yourself have re-written Corbyn’s past and convinced yourself of it’s veracity with what’s known as doublethink. You would have made George Orwell, with his formidable prescience, very proud.

i noticed no comment on what i posted. what a waste of life.

[erolz66]

... with associated temperate political views.

What does this actually mean to you ? For example do you consider Paphitis has 'temperate political views' ? CG ? Me ?

I ask because from where I am sitting it is easy to assume that by 'temperate political views' what you really mean is, the degree to which you personally consider a political view 'temperate' or not is a direct function of the degree to which such views are similar to your own or not. I do not like to 'assume' such things, so I am asking directly.

[Londonrake]

... with associated temperate political views.

What does this actually mean to you ? For example do you consider Paphitis has 'temperate political views' ? CG ? Me ?

I ask because from where I am sitting it is easy to assume that by 'temperate political views' what you really mean is, the degree to which you personally consider a political view 'temperate' or not is a direct function of the degree to which such views are similar to your own or not. I do not like to 'assume' such things, so I am asking directly.

Cherry picking in extremis. Odd, given your own propensity for verbosity.

I was clearly responding to Lordo and submit that his views are far removed from any definition of temperate. His manner and language, routine employment of coarse expletives, use of OTT hate filled insults “Swines” “Parasites” et al make that self evident. None of those I referred to or you mention would speak to others in terms of “fackin Kants, you talk shit boy” and many other such charming expressions. It isn’t the Johnsons of this world that give you the political prisoners, gulags, secret police, executions, etc when they gain power, it’s the likes of Lordo.

I‘ve been an interested observer of UK politics for a long time. Basically from the “You’ve never had it so good” days of “Supermac” up until the present. In all that time I can say, with hand on heart, I’ve never known any politician - of any party - less suited to be Prime Minister of the UK than Jeremy Corbyn. Given the extent of that field it says much. Those who try to pass the man off as a figure of integrity, trustworthy and a leader clearly have no interest in his past and are IMHO delusional. That’s why I think his becoming PM is such an inviting prospect.

[erolz66]

... with associated temperate political views.

What does this actually mean to you ? For example do you consider Paphitis has 'temperate political views' ? CG ? Me ?

I ask because from where I am sitting it is easy to assume that by 'temperate political views' what you really mean is, the degree to which you personally consider a political view 'temperate' or not is a direct function of the degree to which such views are similar to your own or not. I do not like to 'assume' such things, so I am asking directly.

Cherry picking in extremis. Odd, given your own propensity for verbosity.

I was clearly responding to Lordo and submit that his views are far removed from any definition of temperate. His manner and language, routine employment of coarse expletives, use of OTT hate filled insults “Swines” “Parasites” et al make that self evident. None of those I referred to or you mention would speak to others in terms of “fackin Kants, you talk shit boy” and many other such charming expressions. It isn’t the Johnsons of this world that give you the political prisoners, gulags, secret police, executions, etc when they gain power, it’s the likes of Lordo.

I‘ve been an interested observer of UK politics for a long time. Basically from the “You’ve never had it so good” days of “Supermac” up until the present. In all that time I can say, with hand on heart, I’ve never known any politician - of any party - less suited to be Prime Minister of the UK than Jeremy Corbyn. Given the extent of that field it says much. Those who try to pass the man off as a figure of integrity, trustworthy and a leader clearly have no interest in his past and are IMHO delusional. That’s why I think his becoming PM is such an inviting prospect.

Your ability and determination to swerve direct questions and instead answer questions not asked remains as strong and consistent as even I see.

[Lordo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50492998

now that is so generous. the new pledge from the tories is that if they win they will increse the allowance of 8628 pounds a year before insurance is deducted to 9500. now this has been estimated to be an increase of 500 pounds by the tories at first and then they claimed it is likely to be 100 per year. independent sources say it is likely to be £85 per year and of course payable to billionaires too.

compare that with the labour promise of minimum £ 10 per hour. currently it stands at £8.21
so that makes it 1.79 per hour increase on an average week of 40 hours that makes it an increase of 71.60 per week.

so 85 per year or 71.60 per week.

this from a man that said 250k a year for the column he writes was chicken feed.

[Maximus]

A 16 year old working at Mcdonalds (Uk), on minimum wage earns more than the average monthly salary in Cyprus.

is that right?

The cost of living in the UK must be astronomical these days...

[Londonrake]

Your ability and determination to swerve direct questions and instead answer questions not asked remains as strong and consistent as even I see.

Ahhhh! You think I should have gone into politics then?

Your ability and determination to ask direct questions on the 5% of a post which suits your particular agenda, whilst totally ignoring the rest remains as strong and consistent as even (sic) I see.

Do you think that amounts to hypocrisy?

[erolz66]

Your ability and determination to swerve direct questions and instead answer questions not asked remains as strong and consistent as even I see.

Ahhhh! You think I should have gone into politics then?

Your ability and determination to ask direct questions on the 5% of a post which suits your particular agenda, whilst totally ignoring the rest remains as strong and consistent as even (sic) I see.

Do you think that amounts to hypocrisy?

I almost always do my best to answer questions asked of me directly. There is 15 years of posts here from me if you think that is not true. In any case I guess given your refusal to offer me any evidence otherwise I will just have to stick with my assumption as to what 'temperate political views' means to you. Namely the closer a person's political views are to your own the more 'temperate' you consider them to be. I prefer not to assume but faced with such refusal from you that is all I can do.

[Londonrake]

I almost always do my best to answer questions asked of me directly. There is 15 years of posts here from me if you think that is not true. In any case I guess given your refusal to offer me any evidence otherwise I will just have to stick with my assumption as to what 'temperate political views' means to you. Namely the closer a person's political views are to your own the more 'temperate' you consider them to be. I prefer not to assume but faced with such refusal from you that is all I can do.

I’ve made a fundamental mistake. I assumed you can read.

You don’t ask questions. You (myopically) demand answers.

[Londonrake]

Nobody I know is at all confused about Jeremy Corbyn. And, unlike yourself, most are either just ordinary working class people or are retired as such, with associated temperate political views.

The people who’ve known Corbyn best, over many years of working alongside him, are Labour MPs. They voted 197 - 40 to get rid of him as their leader. These people haven’t changed their views but are now on doorsteps pleading for Corbyn votes. Gutless hypocrites, the lot of them.

Meanwhile, Momentum people like yourself have re-written Corbyn’s past and convinced yourself of it’s veracity with what’s known as doublethink. You would have made George Orwell, with his formidable prescience, very proud.

i noticed no comment on what i posted. what a waste of life.

As you always do?

And, as far as wasting life’s concerned, you seem to spend many hours, virtually every day, hovering over your keyboard to be by far the most frequent poster hereabouts. Others can judge who’s wasting it the most.