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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:21 am

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Maximus wrote:With that being said, it does put a solid ceiling on your earning potential and it is understandable why someone would seek a lower tax environment..


Would you consider such people who left their country because they did not like the tax levels set by government chosen by the will of the people, patriots ? democrats ?


You don't need to leave the country. :lol:

Money has no borders. And the rich are not going to simply hand over their cash.

Get it? The vastly rich will just shut down factories, or their operations and move them overseas.It's not them who suffer.

Its actually the working classes who suffer in the end with unemployment.

And that is why, your socialist policies will always FAIL.

There is no patriotism in utter stupidity.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby erolz66 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:34 am

Paphitis wrote:There is no patriotism in utter stupidity.


Which pretty much proves your claims to believing in patriotism are bogus because it is hard to see a plainer example of 'utter stupidity' than much of what you post here.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:24 am

erolz66 wrote:
Maximus wrote:With that being said, it does put a solid ceiling on your earning potential and it is understandable why someone would seek a lower tax environment..


Would you consider such people who left their country because they did not like the tax levels set by government chosen by the will of the people, patriots ? democrats ?


I think that they are not mutually exclusive.

Just because someone decides to emigrate because of the tax regime does not mean they don't love their country or are not democratic.

Tax regimes are not set by the will of the people.

I would bet that most people would vote for lower or no taxes if they had a choice.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:35 am

the irony of this is the fact that these people here who are saying they have cosen to move to another country to live forwhat ever reason, should not be possible for others who who wish to move to the uk for a better life.

there is nothong wrong to move to another country andpay taxes there so long as you earn your living there, but what is wrong is to continue to earn your living in uk and not pay taxes there. it has been allowed but labour intends to do something about that. if you earn your money in the uk, you will pay the tax to the uk for what you earned there.

why would most people not pay taxes?
has there ever been a time where people did not pay taxes anywhere in the world?
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:43 am

Lordo wrote:the irony of this is the fact that these people here who are saying they have cosen to move to another country to live forwhat ever reason, should not be possible for others who who wish to move to the uk for a better life.

there is nothong wrong to move to another country andpay taxes there so long as you earn your living there, but what is wrong is to continue to earn your living in uk and not pay taxes there. it has been allowed but labour intends to do something about that. if you earn your money in the uk, you will pay the tax to the uk for what you earned there.

why would most people not pay taxes?
has there ever been a time where people did not pay taxes anywhere in the world?


There is no irony.

legal immigration is something agreed to between countries and it already exists.

Still, there are restrictions between these countries and you cant go to other countries just because you want to.

If you do want to go to a particular country, you apply and if you are accepted for residence, you go. Its as simple as that.

You cant have uncontrolled immigration and expect a good outcome from that. Those places that are deemed to have a good standard of living will soon become places with a poor standard of living.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Maximus » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:48 am

look whats happening in Turkey, as an example.

3.5 million Syrians have entered the country in a short period of time.

This contributes to housing shortages, pushing up rents.

strain on public services.

cheap labor, squeezing out the locals.

Rising unemployment because there are not enough jobs to go around.

Which leads to begging on the streets, and petty crime...

Then political problems among and with the locals

to name just a few.

think about it.

this is the result of mass, uncontrolled immigration.

Now, Endorgan has to stoop so low to get rid of these Syrians because the Turks dont want them in their country. :roll:
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:58 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:There is no patriotism in utter stupidity.


Which pretty much proves your claims to believing in patriotism are bogus because it is hard to see a plainer example of 'utter stupidity' than much of what you post here.


Not at all.

Being a patriot does not equate to giving your money away.

We have an obligation to look after our families and what we make is OUR money not the Governments!
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Paphitis » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:00 am

Maximus wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Maximus wrote:With that being said, it does put a solid ceiling on your earning potential and it is understandable why someone would seek a lower tax environment..


Would you consider such people who left their country because they did not like the tax levels set by government chosen by the will of the people, patriots ? democrats ?


I think that they are not mutually exclusive.

Just because someone decides to emigrate because of the tax regime does not mean they don't love their country or are not democratic.

Tax regimes are not set by the will of the people.

I would bet that most people would vote for lower or no taxes if they had a choice.


Everyone accepts that tax is necessary but 98% or 83% even at the top tier is just criminal!

Plus it kills the economy.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:02 pm

this explains everything you need to know to understand what is going on today. so here we are, since 2010 when the tories handed a tax cut to ther buddies, it has cost us 63 billion a year and imagine what that could have done to the economy if it got into the hands of the public rather than billionaires and their tax haven accounts.

it is no wonder they attack corbyn 24/7/365 and it is no wonder the ordinary joe bloggs is confused as hell about corbyn. they will be taxed on profit they make in the uk by the uk government. how unfair is that? let the swines sweat a bit and then they can sweat a bit more after that. unless of course they seen war and people shot at them and they no longer are able to sweat or at least were unable to sweat.
and of course needless to say thet debt the tiroes have doubled on us in the last 9 years, 560billion was paid to the billionairs as a tax cut.

i wonder why they don't like corbyn?
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Londonrake » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:37 pm

Nobody I know is at all confused about Jeremy Corbyn. And, unlike yourself, most are either just ordinary working class people or are retired as such, with associated temperate political views.

The people who’ve known Corbyn best, over many years of working alongside him, are Labour MPs. They voted 197 - 40 to get rid of him as their leader. These people haven’t changed their views but are now on doorsteps pleading for Corbyn votes. Gutless hypocrites, the lot of them.

Meanwhile, Momentum people like yourself have re-written Corbyn’s past and convinced yourself of it’s veracity with what’s known as doublethink. You would have made George Orwell, with his formidable prescience, very proud.
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