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[Lordo]

just as you think it cannot get any worse. it does. after 9 years of swinehound rule here is here is the merchant banker telling you that labour is responsible for homelessness in the uk. this, despite the fact that in 2010 there were 40k homless people and now there is more than 80k homeless. you cannot make it up.

https://news.sky.com/video/sajid-javid-labour-responsible-for-rise-in-homeless-11878549?fbclid=IwAR1ezoD69BnowBw8R0Uph_FshgMyz79D5rS-Zh6JySJ4UORWFtd2g4852Sk

[Lordo]

now this is very important. the swinehound party are offering everybody in the country 85 pounds a year tax cut by upping the nin payment exemption to over 9k. they also claim that this will help the very poor. well in fact that is not tue in itself becasue it will help everybody including the billionaires. well at least those swine who pay their taxes and nin in this country.

but have a closer look at what 85 pound a year really means. when you calculated ot per hur it is 4 pence ann hour. wow this figure was worth including in the manifesto.

this reminds me of the phrase:
"an army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep".

during the crimean war, a letter was reportedly sent home by a british soldier quoting a russian officer who had said that british soldiers were "lions commanded by donkeys".

i would like to add to that. tory swinehound party are an army of sheep commanded by sheep. or it may even be lemings. off the cliff you go.

interestingly the plan is still no deal brexit as there is no chance of getting a deal by end of next year. bur of course the ram does not accept that even though it is blatantly obvious. you remeber when he insisted that we would be out by 31 of october and that they will find a way round and not write the letter. well, all his sheep believed that he had a rabbit in a hat which he would produce in the last moment and get things done.
well of course he did not and sheepeshly wrote the letter.

now let us assume the worst and he may have a coalition and ends up at the end of 2020 without a deal. which is a certainty i may add. what will happen to the sheep party then.

1. would all the sheep party vote for no deal brexit
2 or would they vote to leave without a deal
3 and of course would all the sheep vote for that or would enough of them rebel and bring down the government just like they did vefore 31st. of course they could not bring themsleves to bring down the government but never the less to topped the lemmingram leading them over the edge.

having said all that, they got the polls wrong in 2015 and 17 and tink that they vill get this wront too Spiegelei swinehound vill not vin a majority and the surprise will be that corbyn will be in downing street.

everything points that way. get ready for the ride of your life. all you tax evaders put your money in gold and silver and place in the matress and never get out of bed. sleep on it. i know it is not comfortable but what if you are robbed like.

[cyprusgrump]

you cannot make it up.

A Tory candidate has been filmed telling a hustings event that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than minimum wage as ‘they don’t understand money’. Sally-Ann Hart, the Conservative candidate for Hastings and Rye, was met with jeers and boos by a horrified audience as she defended sharing an article that suggested paying disabled people less.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/?fbclid=IwAR2ipR0DW4nLf3yFjM2xp7wEBlkPu3z6iwzapJjsg280ZfD4TEPRw-8YWmI

In the real world of course, if you force employers to pay the able and disabled the same wage they'll choose the able bodied every time...

So actually, it isn't a bad policy to allow an employer to pay for the value of their work and give them a chance to get out of the house and feel like they are contributing something...

The government could always boost their wages to a 'living wage' with benefits.

But no, you'd prefer them to be sitting at home feeling worthless...

[Lordo]

you cannot make it up.

A Tory candidate has been filmed telling a hustings event that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than minimum wage as ‘they don’t understand money’. Sally-Ann Hart, the Conservative candidate for Hastings and Rye, was met with jeers and boos by a horrified audience as she defended sharing an article that suggested paying disabled people less.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/?fbclid=IwAR2ipR0DW4nLf3yFjM2xp7wEBlkPu3z6iwzapJjsg280ZfD4TEPRw-8YWmI

In the real world of course, if you force employers to pay the able and disabled the same wage they'll choose the able bodied every time...

So actually, it isn't a bad policy to allow an employer to pay for the value of their work and give them a chance to get out of the house and feel like they are contributing something...

The government could always boost their wages to a 'living wage' with benefits.

But no, you'd prefer them to be sitting at home feeling worthless...

very interesting. are you saying that two people can do the same job equally well and if one is disabled they must get less money?

the wage should depend on the value of the work you do subject to minimum wages. it must be minimum wage or above so pibol can actually be able to live on the money they earn. this swinehoundess is actaully suggesting that people with learning difficulties should be paid less than the minumum wage as they don't understand money. not less than their abled coleagues.

it has allways been logical to pay an individual a percentage of what they produce for the company. if you produce 100k a year you may be paid 15 to 20k. if you produce a milliona year you may be paid 150 to 200k, or what ever the percentage you wish to use.

who said anything about paying pibol to stay at home. in this country for quite a few decades pibol had to prove that if they are capable of work, they must show evidence they are looking for work. unless they are so sick that they cannot work in which case we pay them to just survive. is that too much? if they cannot work should we allow them to die. as we have so many young pibol out of work, one of the labour policies is to give young pibol a free bus pass. even if it is restricted to those unemployed, that would help.

you are not even understanding the discussion in hand.

[cyprusgrump]

you cannot make it up.

A Tory candidate has been filmed telling a hustings event that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than minimum wage as ‘they don’t understand money’. Sally-Ann Hart, the Conservative candidate for Hastings and Rye, was met with jeers and boos by a horrified audience as she defended sharing an article that suggested paying disabled people less.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/tory-candidate-says-disabled-people-paid-less-dont-understand-money-11280594/?fbclid=IwAR2ipR0DW4nLf3yFjM2xp7wEBlkPu3z6iwzapJjsg280ZfD4TEPRw-8YWmI

In the real world of course, if you force employers to pay the able and disabled the same wage they'll choose the able bodied every time...

So actually, it isn't a bad policy to allow an employer to pay for the value of their work and give them a chance to get out of the house and feel like they are contributing something...

The government could always boost their wages to a 'living wage' with benefits.

But no, you'd prefer them to be sitting at home feeling worthless...

very interesting. are you saying that two people can do the same job equally well and if one is disabled they must get less money?

the wage should depend on the value of the work you do subject to minimum wages. it must be minimum wage or above so pibol can actually be able to live on the money they earn. this swinehoundess is actaully suggesting that people with learning difficulties should be paid less than the minumum wage as they don't understand money. not less than their abled coleagues.

it has allways been logical to pay an individual a percentage of what they produce for the company. if you produce 100k a year you may be paid 15 to 20k. if you produce a milliona year you may be paid 150 to 200k, or what ever the percentage you wish to use.

who said anything about paying pibol to stay at home. in this country for quite a few decades pibol had to prove that if they are capable of work, they must show evidence they are looking for work. unless they are so sick that they cannot work in which case we pay them to just survive. is that too much? if they cannot work should we allow them to die. as we have so many young pibol out of work, one of the labour policies is to give young pibol a free bus pass. even if it is restricted to those unemployed, that would help.

you are not even understanding the discussion in hand.

You're not even understanding English!

Perhaps a forum where the standard language was gibberish would be more suited to you...?

[Lordo]

just tell me which bit did you not understan like. you are total ass. you have no answer so you revert to insult. if insult is your game fak off you stupid idiotic excuse for a humanoid.

i thought i will revert from treating you like an ass perhaps you will stop being one but unfortunately the reason i treat you like an ass is becasue you are one.

asshole.

[Lordo]

unfortunately only those who understand terggish will understand this but it is so relevant to the 85 pound a year swinehound party is giving to the low pay as well as everybody else.

the imprtance is not how much he says the importance is the fact that it is going to be increased. amazingly the increase anounced here was 75 pence per year. it is not that far out is it? this was in the 80s so i guess the figure is the same.

[Paphitis]

Looks like Corbyn is in a Terminal Nose Dive now...

Congratulations to BORIS for a convincing debate win. Got to admit though, Corbyn isn't really tough to beat.

[cyprusgrump]

[Lordo]

that's bullshit and you know it. till b'stard came to power he voted against everything may did. he is the leading frustrator of the parliamentary system spaffing all over the wall. soon as he came to power he pretended he was able to remove the backstop by actually implementing it and putting the border in the irish sea. and of course it was cummings' idea to just blame parliament for all the failings of the tory government for the last 3 years. well in fact parliament had voted for his wa even though it was worse than may's deal becasue they knew that the real trade talks will begin after january and the fakker chickened out and instead of taking his wa through parlaiment he asked for an election and his only policy was brexit. talk of a disingenuous kant if ever there was one. if you want to have a vote on brexit, take the wa though parliament, get a deal and put it to the people. nooooo thats too easy he needs to muddy the water.

but don't you worry about a thing. we are in the same place as we were in 2016 and we will be in the same place as even if b'stards manages to get a slim majorrity which is unlikely. he is still in denial and will not confirm that no deal is an option claiming he will get a deal. so what if he does not, he will try to get a no deal through which is what he promised nige and dup. nige being the stupid kant that he is believed him but dup know that even with no deal there is going to be a border down the irish sea. so there is no way they will make a deal with tories on the 13th. i suspect if he goes down the line of no deal, there will be a few more tory mps that will abandan the sinking ship. notice he says he has 630 mps who support his deal, and of course he does not say they will support his government with or without a deal. i would have though rather than admit that no deal is not an option for tactical reason in the negotiations, why not say he supports a brexit with or without a deal. now that will be very honest becasue that is what he suports and he will not be in anyway disadvantaging himself in the negotiations if he should win.

and of course racist kants like you will claim that no deal was never off the table and therefore a legitimate option even if it is not mentioned.

like fak it is.

if he wants it as an option he has to declare it.

btw while you are at it, perhaps you can explain why exactly he cannot declare that if he cannot get a deal by the end of 2020, he will leave without a deal. is there any reason on earth why he will not say such a thing? or is it becasue he is scared shitless.
he had no problem saying we will leave do or die whhat exactly is wrong with saying we will leave end of 2020 with or without a deal.

explain?