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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:54 pm

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Londonrake wrote:So, basically, you’re awaiting the arrival of their manifesto with an open mind then Lordo. :lol:

how else can i be waiting for it when they are planning to give

corporations 6 billion a year
people earnig over 50k 9 billion a year
and finally people earning less than 8000 a year 85pounds a year. i mean what generosity
oh they wil lalso promise to rais the minimum wage to £10 per hour 2024. i mean how much more generous can they get?
oh i nearly forgot they will allocate 1 billion for social care but am looking forward to see the formula of who will be able to claim it.

of course i am open minded about it, just as much as i was in 2017 when may had the dementia tax in the manifesto and was forced to remove it. lets see what kind of swining stupidities lurk in the depths of it.



Taxing less is not giving... :roll:

so how come we ended up with 800billion more debt between 2010 and 2019. it is not just giving, it is giving wheelborough loads.

in a civilised scociety we pay our taxes and those of us who earn more pay more so that those who cannot will not fall below the poverty line. this government has created a new poverty line. before people had to be unemployed to be below poverty line, now you can work hard and hold three jobs and still be below poverty line.

what a fakkin bunch of merchant bankers these swines are.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:03 pm

this has never been about a man working hard and enjoying the fruits of their labour becasue it is not just 1% of the world that work hard.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42745853?SThisFB&fbclid=IwAR0WmfBXIPyF9mdjSIGqHINKmdp0h7gcoTo_YhpGIw4hI2LzQhL0Wbji0cA

'World's richest 1% get 82% of the wealth', says Oxfam

The gap between the super rich and the rest of the world widened last year as wealth continued to be owned by a small minority, Oxfam has claimed. Some 82% of money generated last year went to the richest 1% of the global population while the poorest half saw no increase at all, the charity said. Oxfam said its figures - which critics have queried - showed a failing system.

It blamed tax evasion, firms' influence on policy, erosion of workers' rights, and cost cutting for the widening gap. Oxfam has produced similar reports for the past five years. In 2017 it calculated that the world's eight richest individuals had as much wealth as the poorest half of the world. This year, it said 42 people now had as much wealth as the poorest half, but it revised last year's figure to 61. Oxfam said the revision was due to improved data and said the trend of "widening inequality" remained.

Oxfam chief executive Mark Goldring said its constant readjustment of the figures reflected the fact that the report was based "on the best data available at the time". "However you look at it, this is an unacceptable level of inequality," he said. Oxfam's report coincides with the start of the World Economic Forum in Davos, a Swiss ski resort. The annual conference attracts many of the world's top political and business leaders. Inequality typically features high on the agenda, but Mr Goldring said that too often "tough talk fades away at the first resistance".
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:07 pm

Lordo wrote:
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Lordo wrote:
Londonrake wrote:So, basically, you’re awaiting the arrival of their manifesto with an open mind then Lordo. :lol:

how else can i be waiting for it when they are planning to give

corporations 6 billion a year
people earnig over 50k 9 billion a year
and finally people earning less than 8000 a year 85pounds a year. i mean what generosity
oh they wil lalso promise to rais the minimum wage to £10 per hour 2024. i mean how much more generous can they get?
oh i nearly forgot they will allocate 1 billion for social care but am looking forward to see the formula of who will be able to claim it.

of course i am open minded about it, just as much as i was in 2017 when may had the dementia tax in the manifesto and was forced to remove it. lets see what kind of swining stupidities lurk in the depths of it.



Taxing less is not giving... :roll:

so how come we ended up with 800billion more debt between 2010 and 2019. it is not just giving, it is giving wheelborough loads.

in a civilised scociety we pay our taxes and those of us who earn more pay more so that those who cannot will not fall below the poverty line. this government has created a new poverty line. before people had to be unemployed to be below poverty line, now you can work hard and hold three jobs and still be below poverty line.

what a fakkin bunch of merchant bankers these swines are.


The government doesn't have any money of its own...

...the money it has comes from taxes.

Reducing the tax, taxing someone less is not giving them money, just letting them keep more of their own money. :wink:
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:19 pm

so you reckon giving a tax concession to people is not the same as giving them money. you really are a true swine through and through. and a fakkkin one at that.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:59 pm

Lordo wrote:so you reckon giving a tax concession to people is not the same as giving them money. you really are a true swine through and through. and a fakkkin one at that.


It isn't that I reckon that is the case, it clearly is the case... :roll:

Reducing tax is not giving away free money, it is letting people keep a little more of what they earned... :wink:
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:43 pm

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Lordo wrote:so you reckon giving a tax concession to people is not the same as giving them money. you really are a true swine through and through. and a fakkkin one at that.


It isn't that I reckon that is the case, it clearly is the case... :roll:

Reducing tax is not giving away free money, it is letting people keep a little more of what they earned... :wink:

of the 2043 people mentioned above i wonder how many of them know what a single day's work is. you can't become that rich working and not sucking the blood out of workers who actaully do the work.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:18 pm

any idea when it will be released?
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby erolz66 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:10 am

Lordo wrote:any idea when it will be released?


Boris Johnson will unveil the document in the West Midlands on Sunday.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50532000

I am staring to get very worried about Mogg though ? Is he ok ? He seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:36 am

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Lordo wrote:any idea when it will be released?


Boris Johnson will unveil the document in the West Midlands on Sunday.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50532000

I am staring to get very worried about Mogg though ? Is he ok ? He seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth.

maybe his nanny is not well. he only comes out when his nanny is with him even when knocking on doors.
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Re: tory manifesto

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:39 am

itis refreshing to hear andrew mitchell to talk about labour having to make a deal with minorty party. is this not how they have been running the country since 2015?

What's the big deal?
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