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[Lordo]

you stupid arse, where the fak were you faking born in a fakin barn? what kind of stupidity is going through that little single celled head of yours.

When you come out with that sort of stuff - which is quite often actually - I take it as a compliment. Because, there's very little rationality in some of your views and your response, when it dawns on you that you don't really have a logical case, is always ................Mr Angry.

Ideal Momentum material.

lets explain this shall we.

foirst of all negotiating a deal is not an issue as it has not been negotiated yet. what has been negotiated is the withdrawal agreement. so what next?
one issue is the border in the irish sea which the eu is happy about. it is only there becasue the swine have said they have no intention of alligning with the eu regulations. if there is no deviation there is no border, the more deviation we have the harder the border will become. in anycase it all depends on the deal to be negotiated

so what about the deal. labour will negotiate a norway style deal with customs union and fta. and yes we will have to pay into it just like we do when we are in the eu. 750 million a month is chicken feed if we did not pay and end up being charged 2500 million for our trade by the eu.
labour deal will protect the rights of eu and uk citizens where ever they reside.
it will also protect jobs and human rights too.
and of course the bonus is not just fta with the eu but being able to use the wto schedules eu has negotiated with the eu to trade with the rest of the world.

and eu will not object to anything there. and of course it is not the labour mebers that will have to approve it but it will be parliament that will approve it but after the confirmatory referendum. and of course people will have the choice of accepting brexit or voting to remain.

now that is how you fakin unite the country not by recruiting the fascists erg and even more fascist dup and trying to ged the hardest of brexit deal.

fak that for a game of soldiers.
i have no idea why you refer to me as momentum, i have been like this since the mid 70s, looooooooong before momentum.

[Lordo]

here is 12 things we need to do.

Increase health budget by 4.3%
Hold a second referendum on Brexit
Raise minimum wage from £8.21 to £10
Stop rises in state pension age
Introduce a National Care Service
Bring forward net-zero target
Nationalise key industries
Scrap Universal Credit
Abolish private schools' charitable status
Free bus travel for under-25s
Give EU nationals the right to remain
Build 100,000 council homes a year


just imagine if labour was in power for the last 9 years and did not give 500billion tax cuts to the corporations. it can be done.

[cyprusgrump]

you stupid arse, no matter what agreement you have even with no deal, unless you adhere to eu rules present and future, you will not be able to trade with them.

Really??? I. Did. Not. Know. That!

I assumed that it would be like when we sell electrical stuff to America, we just ship it with a UK plug and set to 220V and hope they don't notice...

You honestly think the UK doesn't export stuff to non-EU countries and meet or exceed the standards for that country...?

What a complete and utter idiot you are...

more bullshit

As LR said, point out which bit is wrong...

It really seems like the biggest bullshitter on here is you Bore-Dough...

[Londonrake]

Look. What I've posted about Labour's Brexit policy, the facts, are taken out of the manifesto. Trust me - that's not easy. I haven't made anything up. You can check it.

Personally, I can see why they've taken so much flack over their muddled Brexit policy. It's total - as you would say - bullshit.

Now - you can post reams and reams of obfuscating - but not really related - stuff to try and arse cover but that doesn't change their Brexit "plan" one iota.

It's absolute rubbish - a joke - everyone and their brother will see it for what it is.

[Lordo]

Look. What I've posted about Labour's Brexit policy, the facts, are taken out of the manifesto. Trust me - that's not easy. I haven't made anything up. You can check it.

Personally, I can see why they've taken so much flack over their muddled Brexit policy. It's total - as you would say - bullshit.

Now - you can post reams and reams of obfuscating - but not really related - stuff to try and arse cover but that doesn't change their Brexit "plan" one iota.

It's absolute rubbish - a joke - everyone and their brother will see it for what it is.

why would i want to read what you posted. i have the full manifesto.

[Londonrake]

why would i want to read what you posted. i have the full manifesto.

To be honest. I got the impression - quite a long time ago - that you're not interested much in anything anybody posts. Why would you want to read them. You have your views and that's that.

https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upload ... o-2019.pdf

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[Lordo]

Labour's Brexit policy.

They assume Brussels will be willing to reopen negotiations on the WA - yet again but......................... it gets better

Corbyn refuses to say to anyone – including, those he will be negotiating with - whether, when such a deal is concluded, he and his government will actually support it.

That's the most sensible bit.

Labour says that, before it puts any new deal to voters, it must first be approved by party members. So, Brussels must not only accept that its negotiating partner may conclude a deal and then not support that deal in the subsequent referendum, but that the deal might not even be put to voters at all if Labour members reject it. In a poll, 88% of Labour party members voted to Remain. Think about it? I'm sure Barnier will.

This is, in all seriousness, the plan Labour has for Brexit. This is the plan Labour thinks voters should welcome.

What about the actual deal Labour wants?

To be a member of the customs union and aligned closely to the single market's rules. In other words, under Labour's "best deal," we would have to follow whatever the EU decided to do, without the slightest influence on or involvement in the decision making.

The 52 per cent of voters who voted Leave in 2016 will be told that their vote counted for nothing and the only two options they will be allowed to have will be membership of the EU, with influence on its decisions, or a new form of membership, with no influence at all.

Already, despite having no idea of this deal that the Labour party will be negotiating, many senior members of the would-be cabinet, Thornbury and Starmer among them, have said that they will campaign against it. And the "Leader" of the Labour party, on what's probably the most important national matter since WW2? He intends to remain "neutral".

Total "faikin" Alice in Wonderland stuff.

i read the first bit and thought noooo not more bullshit.

when did corbyn say they will open up wa. what an idiotic statement. the wa has been passed by parliament and is in need of scrutiny and then it will be through. And of course that’s another lie b’stard said about parliament not voting for his deal they did vote for his deal, they did not vote to scrutinise in in 3 days.

Have you heard a more stupid thing in your life?

if you want the full manifesto i can post it here.

[Maximus]

I'm not really following the run up to these elections but I hear that the labor party's manifesto is to spend 82.9 Billion pounds a year, of other peoples money.

How, I asked.

Well apparently, they are going to raise taxes on some business's, nationalise some others and then give their services away for free.

Is that right?

[Lordo]

I'm not really following the run up to these elections but I hear that the labor party's manifesto is to spend 82.9 Billion pounds of other peoples money.

How, I asked.

Well apparently, they are going to raise taxes on some business's, nationalise some others and then give their services away for free.

is that right?

nope you got it all wrong.

the tory goverment gave them more than 250billion in tax cuts which should never have been given. labour government also lent 500billion to the bankers before 2010. so put them together and the bankers and corporation owe the government 750billion. now just this money alone is enough for the plan for the next 10 years,

so no they are not spending other peoples'money, they are spending the tax mone we collect and should have collected.

there is a few other's that wil pay more. anybody has more than one roerty there wil lbe tax for that and i expect it wil be per property.
there is also the private schools which charge fees and recieve money from the government. first of all the money will no longer pay anything to the private schools and secondly they will no longer be treated as charity. they are no charity, they are big business. so they wil pay their taxes and vat just like everybody else.

but look at the good causes they are spendng it on.

busses where they have been removed
nhs more money
help to change car to an electric one
train young people in green industries for better future for everybody.
stop charging fees at university.
under 25 get a free buspass
retirement wil not go higher than 66.

suddenly the country's mood has changed. there is no question it is good. the question is can we afford it. of course we can. all we have to do is get the swine to pay the appropriate levels of tax they are supposed to.

people earning between 50k and 80k were going to get a tax concession to the tune of 9 billion a year. that will not happen. one swine said 80k is not very high wage. explain that to the people who have to live at £8.21 an hour on a zero hour contract where they may only work 5 hours in a week and have to pay transport.

swines are about to understand what life is all about.

they said it could not be done in 1945. labour delivered everything they said they would and uk are envy of the world for what labour did in 1945.
we can do it again.

[Paphitis]

I'm not really following the run up to these elections but I hear that the labor party's manifesto is to spend 82.9 Billion pounds a year, of other peoples money.

How, I asked.

Well apparently, they are going to raise taxes on some business's, nationalise some others and then give their services away for free.

Is that right?

82.9 Billion? Is that all!

Don't worry Max. They are not going to win. So the UK is safe.

Labor have become some kind of caricature tyo make fun of

They know they have lost and are just making stupid unworkable promises because they know they won't get in.

Sit back and enjoy the spectacle.