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[Paphitis]

It's a clear advertising of the supposedly strict Jewish religion.
A public show.
Stupid Jews they are so obsessed with religion, traditional ceremonies and nonsense that no one can beat them.
Of course they are more than anyone obsessed with -- >

You have no idea about Jews.

The majority of them are no more religious than Cypriots or Greeks are.

Unless you are talking about the religiously fanatical Orthodox Jews which make about 5% of Jews?

Most of them do however take their Sabath quite seriously and they don't work on that day. Just like Orthodox take certain fast periods and feasts very seriously.

On average, I would place the Jews on par with Greeks, and maybe some Italians.

Also one thing about the Jews. They don't advertise their religion or try to recruit like some evangelicals.

Oh, only holy Australia has Jews. My landlord was not a Jew either. therefore you know everything about the Jews and nobody else has a clue..
I bet you didn't know that there could possibly exist ONE Jew in the whole planet that shuts down his website on "sabbath" simply because you assume the Jews are as religious as the Greeks.

Well we have a lot more than you have in Cyprus. Plus we have Jewish Schools and Synagogues.

In Melbourne there is a rather large community of them.

Our Treasurer is Jewish. The Treasurer is second behind the Prime Minister.

To be honest, this action is rare. Many Jews have websites and they don't shut them down on the Sabath. I do know however, that they will not work on the Sabath no matter what, but shutting down their websites is something I haven;t seen before.

Now, if this guy wants to shut his website down, well that's their business. It might not make any sense because as Sotos said, the website isn't a person or soul, but if the owner feels that strongly about it then so be it.

The only net result that can be achieved here is an inconvenience to customers and a loss of business and money. Other than that, they are not hurting anyone or doing anything bad.

[Paphitis]

While browsing the internet today (Saturday) I came across this US based company's website: https://www.qualitybath.com

Here is what I saw (and what you will see if you visit while it is Saturday in the US):

qualitybath.com.png

OKKKK... So your website is observing the "Sabbath"? Really? Your server is still working! Isn't that a sin? Maybe you should shut your whole server down then? (and by the way, I can close that overlay using the browser's Developer Tools and make your website work on "Sabbath" for me. So it is going to hell anyways!)

...the issue is far more complex than it appears. Your assumption that because a server is on, it is working. Work as defined by a person religious, is work. While their Dogma may define it more precisely, in this case, work is defined as making money; the server is 'alive', but it is not making money.

...nothing prevents a Jew from working on the Sabbath, while it is the day of rest, to pray, to act in Grace, with Charity; it is no sin as Jesus, (a Jew,) demonstrated lovingly in a service, not to himself, but in effect, to the Golden Rule.

...frankly, i can respect this enterprise; honesty, integrity, has a cost not necessarily qualified by the performance of a bottom line alone. In God we Trust?

That is true. They could define work as making money which is the reason why they shut down their website on the Sabath so they can't make any money on that day.

Well, if that is what they believe, then so be it. Total respect for believing what they do and acting through with it at a financial cost. I presume not many people would do that.

[Pyrpolizer]

Well we have a lot more than you have in Cyprus. Plus we have Jewish Schools and Synagogues.

In Melbourne there is a rather large community of them.

To be honest, this action is rare. Many Jews have websites and they don't shut them down on the Sabath. I do know however, that they will not work on the Sabath no matter what, but shutting down their websites is something I haven;t seen before.

Now, if this guy wants to shut his website down, well that's their business. It might not make any sense because as Sotos said, the website isn't a person or soul, but if the owner feels that strongly about it then so be it.

The only net result that can be achieved here is an inconvenience to customers and a loss of business and money. Other than that, they are not hurting anyone or doing anything bad.

fyi the landlord I was referring to was not in Cyprus.
The reason they don't proselytize is because they believe they are the chosen ones, and no one else can fit in.
The announcement this particular one set on his website "we are closed in observance of the Sabbath" has multiple implications and we didn't need you to tell us is his own business. Dumb Maria could tell us that too, without much effort.
He then continued saying:Our weekend Sale starts Saturday night at 5:30 EST! Wow he couldn't delay not one second.
Try again...

[Paphitis]

Well we have a lot more than you have in Cyprus. Plus we have Jewish Schools and Synagogues.

In Melbourne there is a rather large community of them.

To be honest, this action is rare. Many Jews have websites and they don't shut them down on the Sabath. I do know however, that they will not work on the Sabath no matter what, but shutting down their websites is something I haven;t seen before.

Now, if this guy wants to shut his website down, well that's their business. It might not make any sense because as Sotos said, the website isn't a person or soul, but if the owner feels that strongly about it then so be it.

The only net result that can be achieved here is an inconvenience to customers and a loss of business and money. Other than that, they are not hurting anyone or doing anything bad.

fyi the landlord I was referring to was not in Cyprus.
The reason they don't proselytize is because they believe they are the chosen ones, and no one else can fit in.
The announcement this particular one set on his website "we are closed in observance of the Sabbath" has multiple implications and we didn't need you to tell us is his own business. Dumb Maria could tell us that too, without much effort.
He then continued saying:Our weekend Sale starts Saturday night at 5:30 EST!!
Try again...

Oh for crying out loud Pyro, give it a break.

The terminology of chosen ones is actually biblical and these texts are thousands of years old.

Today, Jews are just normal people. The vast majority just go about their business. The majority haven't even read the Old Testament and are in a general state of apathy.

But as with all people, there is a small minority of fanatical Jews - Orthodox Jews. That is a different matter all together.

And yes, if you believe the Bible and Christian Texts, the Jews are indeed the chosen people. Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth as the Messiah and Savior of Jews, from Jewish stock and in turn the Jewish pharisees rejected him, and hence he was crucified.

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh for crying out loud Lordo, give it a break.

The terminology of chosen ones is actually biblical and these texts are thousands of years old.

Today, Jews are just normal people. The vast majority just go about their business. The majority haven't even read the Old Testament and are in a general state of apathy.

But as with all people, there is a small minority of fanatical Jews - Orthodox Jews. That is a different matter all together.

And yes, if you believe the Bible and Christian Texts, the Jews are indeed the chosen people. Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth as the Messiah and Savior of Jews, from Jewish stock and in turn the Jewish farissees rejected him, and hence he was crucified.

Yet that's the reason they don't proselytize not because they are religiously apathetic.
Religion, culture, tradition, and practices is what defines them to each other albeit only the orthodox are really very religious.
The Jews generally like to set hundreds of rules and practices that makes you wonder what is going on.
Of course the orthodox outclass them all.

[Paphitis]

Oh for crying out loud Lordo, give it a break.

The terminology of chosen ones is actually biblical and these texts are thousands of years old.

Today, Jews are just normal people. The vast majority just go about their business. The majority haven't even read the Old Testament and are in a general state of apathy.

But as with all people, there is a small minority of fanatical Jews - Orthodox Jews. That is a different matter all together.

And yes, if you believe the Bible and Christian Texts, the Jews are indeed the chosen people. Jesus Christ was incarnate on earth as the Messiah and Savior of Jews, from Jewish stock and in turn the Jewish farissees rejected him, and hence he was crucified.

Yet that's the reason they don't proselytize not because they are religiously apathetic.
Religion, culture, tradition, and practices is what defines them to each other albeit only the orthodox are really very religious.
The Jews generally like to set hundreds of rules and practices that makes you wonder what is going on.
Of course the orthodox outclass them all.

they are Orthodox Jews Pyro. They are nowhere near the majority of Jewish people.

Yes they are defined by religion and culture, very similar to Greeks in every aspect. But just like us who are mostly Orthodox Christians and only go to Church twice a year and some of us don't even do that, the Jews are the same.

They will practice the Sabath because that is what they are suppose to do, they might go to the Synagogue a couple of times of the year.

The Orthodox Jews are a lot more uncompromising about their religion. They will pray every day, dress the way the do and lead extremely restricted lives. We too also have people who wouldn't miss a Sunday at Church, or even a Vespers, or Feast.

The vast majority of Jews are not like the ones you depicted Pyro. The Orthodox Jews are also at times anti Israel as they spit on their own police and military because they believe the Messiah has not come yet to make the Promised land of Israel and so they believe the current version is a fake.

They also refuse to serve the Israeli Defence Force on conscientious grounds.

[Sotos]

Just to be clear my post was not "anti-Jewish" but about religiosity to the point of being ridiculous. That said I don't think we have anything analogous to Orthodox Jews. Even the super-religious Greeks (apart from priests and monks) will not wear funny hats and clothes and "close" a website for religious reasons.

[Pyrpolizer]

Just to be clear my post was not "anti-Jewish" but about religiosity to the point of being ridiculous. That said I don't think we have anything analogous to Orthodox Jews. Even the super-religious Greeks (apart from priests and monks) will not wear funny hats and clothes and "close" a website for religious reasons.

The Jews are weird people in all aspects of life not only religion. It's not surprising there's so much prejudice(?) against them.

My very first encounter with Jews was at an airport where for weather reasons all flights have been cancelled and there were people waiting in ques the next day. I was one of them. The spokeswoman came out and said flights would resume slowly and passengers would go by priority. I was just waiting there among a crowd of about 200 people to get my number when I saw a poor woman crying and begging the administrator to let her and her child go because her mother was dying. The admin said the only way to do that would be if someone else would offer her his number. At the same time another woman very refined and seemingly rich accompanied by a man said it was urgent for her to go too.There were 2 Jews over there who said "well we are not in a hurry we can go any day this week so we offer our seats". I was expecting they would give their numbers to the crying (and seemingly poor) woman. And then the Jew said we are offering our seats to this lady pointing to the rich woman and her husband.
The woman got the seats and just said a cold thank you. Then the Jew turned to her and said "just give us $30 for the taxi" !!
The woman opened her purse and gave them the money.

My following encounters were with my Jewish landlord. I would need volumes to write about him. 'Γιακκαn αντιναμενο κουμπαρε..."
Just one incident I will never forget
One day he knocked my door and asked for some help. I did help him.
A few days later I had a flat car battery and asked him to help me start it up using his jumper cables. He did help me too. Then he turned to me saying, "you know it would cost you $40 to call for a start up service, just give me $10." I got furious...
One thing i never understood was that his son had a sticker along his back windshield saying "We are Christian Jews" These were the exact words. I never asked though as I actually didn't care. I changed residence after the first semester anyway.

Later in life I had a few other encounters with Jews and one in Cyprus . Not even one was what we would call "normal" each had it's own weird aspect. Many of them had to do with money.
The incident in Cyprus. The jew gave me a blank signed cheque in settlement of an invoice of about 350 pounds or Euro, don't remember. He said he was in a hurry and asked me to fill in the details of the cheque myself as he had to go. I tried to advice him not to do that as anybody could in his absence fill in any amount he likes. He said I may try doing it if I wish, and see if I ever manage to cash it... and then just left leaving me with a blank cheque in my hands!!

[yialousa1971]

It's a clear advertising of the supposedly strict Jewish religion.
A public show.
Stupid Jews they are so obsessed with religion, traditional ceremonies and nonsense that no one can beat them.
Of course they are more than anyone obsessed with -- >

You have no idea about Jews.

The majority of them are no more religious than Cypriots or Greeks are.

Unless you are talking about the religiously fanatical Orthodox Jews which make about 5% of Jews?

Most of them do however take their Sabath quite seriously and they don't work on that day. Just like Orthodox take certain fast periods and feasts very seriously.

On average, I would place the Jews on par with Greeks, and maybe some Italians.

Also one thing about the Jews. They don't advertise their religion or try to recruit like some evangelicals.

Oh, only holy Australia has Jews. My landlord was not a Jew either. therefore you know everything about the Jews and nobody else has a clue..
I bet you didn't know that there could possibly exist ONE Jew in the whole planet that shuts down his website on "sabbath" simply because you assume the Jews are as religious as the Greeks.

Well we have a lot more than you have in Cyprus. Plus we have Jewish Schools and Synagogues.

In Melbourne there is a rather large community of them.

Our Treasurer is Jewish. The Treasurer is second behind the Prime Minister.

To be honest, this action is rare. Many Jews have websites and they don't shut them down on the Sabath. I do know however, that they will not work on the Sabath no matter what, but shutting down their websites is something I haven;t seen before.

Now, if this guy wants to shut his website down, well that's their business. It might not make any sense because as Sotos said, the website isn't a person or soul, but if the owner feels that strongly about it then so be it.

The only net result that can be achieved here is an inconvenience to customers and a loss of business and money. Other than that, they are not hurting anyone or doing anything bad.

What are you trying to tell us Koala?

[Paphitis]

Just to be clear my post was not "anti-Jewish" but about religiosity to the point of being ridiculous. That said I don't think we have anything analogous to Orthodox Jews. Even the super-religious Greeks (apart from priests and monks) will not wear funny hats and clothes and "close" a website for religious reasons.

Understand that.

But I think RW placed an interesting perspective on this. Sabath can actually also in its strictest interpretation prevent Jews from making money on the Sabath. Probably the only Jews to abide by that interpretation is an Orthodox Jew.

The owner of the website could be an Orthodox Jew.