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[growuptcs]

Lala isnt the only extremist here, theres many. Myself,Perastikos,Turkey,Tcs, among many others. Maybe we're politicians trying to convince to the sickos of Cyprus and the world that the boarder to be thrown up again, and it cant be worked out. But the people or nations that are irational about this, are the ones who have or had nothing to lose.

[Sotos]

Mustafa, read the part of article I posted above. Turkey had the right to intervene to restore constitution. Not to occupy Cyprus and kick me out of my home! Piratis is not very friendly sometimes but he always says in his posts that he wants human rights and democracy for all Cypriots. I never seen his post that called TCs sub human. If he did he is wrong! No excuse! But judging from what you say on other things it might be that you just put words in his mouth to make him look bad.

[Sotos]

Perastikos, in half of your posts you swear at others. Some times the swearing is the only thing I can understand from your posts I hope at least you can understand what you read before you reply.

[Perastikos]

Lala_Mustafa_Pasha, GCs extremists of your kind have been banned some time ago. I hope this will happen to you soon. You just want to spread hate and post your propaganda. Did you come here from atcanews that now seems non operational anymore?

What a lie?????

The team formed by Makarios Akritas was ruled from our today president Tassos Papadopoulos.

[Sotos]

I hope at least you can understand what you read before you reply

It seems you don't. I will say it in Greek for you: Alla loyia thkie papa

[Perastikos]

Mustafa, read the part of article I posted above. Turkey had the right to intervene to restore constitution. Not to occupy Cyprus and kick me out of my home! Piratis is not very friendly sometimes but he always says in his posts that he wants human rights and democracy for all Cypriots. I never seen his post that called TCs sub human. If he did he is wrong! No excuse! But judging from what you say on other things it might be that you just put words in his mouth to make him look bad.

Piratis is unable to talk and he is unable to understand what their isn’t absolute justice come from heaven. And unfortunately he is an extremist like our politics are.

Perastikos, in half of your posts you swear at others. Some times the swearing is the only thing I can understand from your posts I hope at least you can understand what you read before you reply.

Ohh be sure about that I have past your stupidity a long ago.

We used to have an extremist at the other side (Dectash) and now we have Dectashopoulos and propagandas mme(TV , Newspapers) to invest in divining.

Ohh yes and you say what you are not stupid????

Vre vlaka giati ekleksate ena pello pou to psevdonimo tou einai Tourkofagos?

Are you brainless as the others?

Or did the man allkse sior?


Be sure what foreigns are not so stupid as you are and what they sure more informed than you are.

We are all alone against the hole world realize that when there is time to change things.

He was fooled the hole Europe, the hole world.

Are you sure what you are able to discuss this thinks?

Did you know anything about his politic or I have to make a lesson to you?

Do you believe what the bullshit you watch from TV is what is actually going on?

Did you see the Perireousa Atmosfera video of Makarios Droushotis?

Did you realize what the Europeans make a lot of fun from as?

[growuptcs]

Perastikos coming here to this site and cursing your own people because of your "new beliefs" is wrong. You think your way is the right way? Till you run a country and deal with crookedness and willing to deal with their way or the highway, keep your mouth closed you bitch. Your mother should of swallowed you a long time ago. How does that feel prick? Before you judge your own people, fix yourself.

[Perastikos]

Perastikos coming here to this site and cursing your own people because of your "new beliefs" is wrong. You think your way is the right way? Till you run a country and deal with crookedness and willing to deal with their way or the highway, keep your mouth closed you bitch. Your mother should of swallowed you a long time ago. How does that feel prick? Before you judge your own people, fix yourself.

Calm down pussy cat

And I have to inform you what my opinion is the common opinion outside of Cyprus and Greece.

My opinion is nothing new.

A big number of Greek politicians are saying exactly the same things,

I have to belive the bullshits of you mad president?

Why?

.

Okay???

Katalaves??

How can I curse an already cursed ?

You own religion curse you .

How do you feel about that???

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[bg_turk]

bg_turk, even Straw said that his visit is not recognition. He went there to visit the TC leader. The ECHR said that Turkey is responsible for the occupied areas they didn't recognise "trnc". The UN resolution says that "trnc" is legally invalid. If it was legal then why is not recognized even by the countries that support Turkey so much? I agree with piratis that you show no respect to Greek Cypriots. We were pushed out of our homes and Turkey created some state on our land. How could that be legal? It is our country and we never asked or agreed for this state!

Sotos,

I am not saying that the TRNC is legal. I am simply saying the the concept of legality in this case is meaningless. The TRNC is not illegal and it is not legal either.

Is the American occupation of Iraq and Afganistan illegal?
Is the Armenian occupation of Nagorno-Karabkh illegal?
Is the NATO occupation of Kosovo illegal?
Is teh Israeli occupation of the West Bank illegal?

The TRNC is as illegal as any of those are. Please, understand that the conept of legality is meaningless. The UN may have condemned the TRNC, or it may have endoresed some other breakaway states, but this does not make them legal or illegal, nobody appointed the UN to be the worlds court or lawmaker, so it cannot make any judgement about the legality of states.

Finally, I am not disputing Straws statement that his visit does not mean recognition, I have stated that the TRNC is an unrecognized state. What I am saying is that the TRNC cannot be illegal.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint I know enough of the past. Both communities have suffered and both share the blame. But today there is no reason to spread hate and show one side as monsters. Why should I be displaced from my home because some criminal in Greece sponsored coup in Cyprus and some other criminal in Turkey found the excuse to kick me (not him) out of my house? The war that started in 1974 should end now. And if we want to have something different than what we agreed in 1960 we can negotiate under conditions of peace, not war. Negotiating under conditions of war is like Germany that was negotiating surrender after they lost the war. This is what you want from us? To surrender because we lost the war? These are not fair negotiations and this is why they don't have a fair result e.g. Annan plan.

You dont know my views very well Sotos, I do not like raking up the past and always state that both sides are to blame for the current situation we are in but when faced with specific questions it is necessary to remind some people our viewpoint. The brickwall approach of Piratis works negatively as he has absolutely no flexiblity to negotiate anything in that case he can stew in his own shit until he comes to his senses and agrees to negotiate a roap map that will address both sides fears and concerns.

The Turkish army will not leave until we agree a comprehensive solution, they act as a deterent so that GCs do not do anything stupid like start to attack TCs or a war. Can you imagine it if their was no Turkish army GC would have free range to do what they want the balance of power would be just as Piratis wants it. If you really want a solution you have to negotiate their removal.