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[Paphitis]

What a load of nonsense!

There is no ownership you silly person. The Royals do not own Australia or get any money from Australia or have any power in Australia that they can reasonably exercise except through its representative and only in specific situations such as war or constitutional disorder.

Australia is an independent and self governing country, member of the UN and has far closer relationships with Singapore, Japan, and USA. Australia is actually a lot more independent as a country than the UK is because the UK is still in the EU and has foreigners imposing laws on the UK whereas only our elected politicians can do this in Australia.

It is a 5 eye partner with the USA, Canada, UK, and New Zealand.

It has its own Foreign Policy and many times it differs from the UK. Australia was never drawn into the Falklands War or the Sinai crisis, but it was drawn into Korea, and Vietnam by the USA. The USA has a lot more power and leverage in Australia than the UK. We are also closer to the USA and always have been.

Our soldiers always got along with their soldiers more than they got along with the Brits because Australians and Americans are very egalitarian and anti establishment. Whilst the average British squaddie was ok, Officers of the British Armed Forces were not like any Australian or American equivalents so we always got on with the Yanks a bit better.

Australia, along with new Zealand, and Canada, share the same Head of State as the UK. But that is our own crown, and the position is ceremonial. It isn't our Government. Out Head of State, Queen Elizabeth of Australia, can't and does not pass laws, interfere in Australian Politics unless asked to suspend parliament.

There is no ownership.

The reason why Prince Charles was schooled in Australia is because the Royal family is very much our own as well and he was indeed sent to a school that is extremely elite and I would say more elite than Eaton.

Not just that, but there is also a connection between the Greek Royals King Constantine and private schools in Australia. yeh who would have thought such a thing but that is the case.

Not many people know this, but King Constantine apparently also holds an official status with the Australian Government and as such travels on one of the RAAFs VIP jets everytime he comes.

[Paphitis]

Yeh and it really is a huge shame that a country like the UK has allowed itself to be subjugated to the EU.

With all that tradition and history, and a crown and all the pomp and ceremony associated with that, it is being reduced to a vassal Colony of the EU.

Just astonishing how a country could be willing to give up its own institutions.

Just astonishing!

[erolz66]

It is very simple Paphitis. Any school you actually could get your kids in to is not as 'exclusive' as Eaton because you could not get your kids in to Eaton. Fact.

It does share some traits with the British public school tradition however.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... use-claims
https://kelsolawyers.com/au/geelong-gra ... cover-ups/
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 52dec.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/geelong ... 50cgx.html
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.g ... l-released

From the Royal commission report

Five members of staff have been convicted of child sex offences against Geelong Grammar students.
They are:
• Graham Leslie Dennis
• John Hamilton Buckley
• John Fitzroy Clive Harvey (known as Jonathan Harvey)
• Philippe Trutmann
• Stefan Van Vuuren.

So yeah Paphitis you keep aspiring to send you children to such schools if you want. You keep looking up to these institutions with your fawning cap doffing wanna be respect and admiration if you like. I will keep calling them out for what they are - anachronistic child abusing institutions. And you have the gall to lecture us about how the UK should have more 'self respect' !

[Paphitis]

I beg to differ. I bet I can get my kids into Eaton if I wanted to very easily.

The hardest part is paying for it.

My wife's former boss was a guess speaker at the Tory convention a few weeks ago when the Tories withdrew from parliament.

Getting into Eaton isn't as hard as you portray and it is open to all. You might not be successful in getting in and I don't know what their criteria are but one phone call from the right person can put the balance in your favour. I am sure it is illegal to preclude anyone from any school in the UK based on class, financial worth or class.

And no I do not believe Eaton is a exclusive as some of our schools in Australia. At the very least, there are schools in Australia that are equally as high as Eaton. I also know, that they are among the best in the world with Royals and all sorts sending their kids to those schools, including Hong Kong and Chinese Billionaires.

If you want to see schools, you come down under and see with your eyes hat is going on down here.

Sometimes, you require to do the same to get into some schools here in Australia.

We got some very uppity schools down here, and they are far more flamboyant too because there is a lot more money in Australia than there is in the UK or Europe I am sorry to say. And where there is money, there is also the very pretentious.

[RichardB]

FFS Children if you're going to argue about school at least get the spelling correct.... It's Eton not Eaton

[Paphitis]

FFS Children if you're going to argue about school at least get the spelling correct.... It's Eton not Eaton

True. My apologies.

I am pretty damn sure Eton is a fine establishment but there are quite a few of those in Australia as well.

probably splitting hairs as to which ones are better, but I do know that the schools in Australia charge a mint and they are also funded by Government because Government allocate funds per student to subsidize the costs. They invest a lot of money in their facilities.

There was an article I have read that Australia has the most expensive schools in the world, and attract Billionaire families, tycoons, Royals and even Hollywood Celebrities.

https://www.privateschoolsdirectory.com.au/

[erolz66]

I beg to differ. I bet I can get my kids into Eaton if I wanted to very easily.

Delusional.

Graham Leslie Dennis

Dennis was a teacher at Geelong Grammar who resided at Bostock House during the 1950s. Dennis was charged in 2008 and ultimately convicted of two counts of gross indecency with a male Geelong Grammar student and two counts of indecent assault on a male Geelong Grammar student in the late 1950s. He was sentenced to a term of imprisonment.

John Hamilton Buckley

Buckley was a resident housemaster at Geelong Grammar during the 1980s. Buckley pleaded guilty to five charges of indecent assault upon a male person and three charges of gross indecency, one charge of sexual penetration with a person aged between 10 and 16 and one charge of possession of child pornography. The charges related to offences that took place between 1980 and 1983, when he was housemaster of a boarding house at Glamorgan. He was sentenced on 11 September 2015 to a total term of imprisonment of seven years and six months. He is required to serve four years and nine months before being eligible for parole.

Jonathan Harvey

Harvey was employed as a mathematics teacher at Geelong Grammar from 1969 to the end of 2004. He was also the housemaster of Allen House – a day boarding house for boys and girls in years 10 to 12 – from 1976 to 1991. At the end of 2004, after complaints were made against him, Harvey agreed to retire, receiving a full extra year’s payout for 2005. In 2007, Harvey pleaded guilty to 10 counts of gross indecency committed against a Geelong Grammar student, BLF, between 1976 and 1978. He was sentenced in December 2007 to a total of two years and eight months jail, of which 10 months were to be served immediately and 22 months were suspended.

Philippe Trutmann

Trutmann was a former student of Geelong Grammar, who was later employed by the school as a live-in boarding house assistant at the Highton campus boarding house between 1985 and 1996. In April 2005, Trutmann pleaded guilty to 19 counts of gross indecency, 22 counts of indecent acts with a child under the age of 16 and one charge of possessing 485 images and 159 videos of pornography involving children. In total, he was convicted of offences against 40 students at Geelong Grammar between 1985 and 1995. He was sentenced to six and a half years imprisonment. In 2011, Trutmann was charged with indecently assaulting Geelong Grammar student BIW. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment, which was wholly suspended.

Stefan Van Vuuren

Van Vuuren was employed as a teacher at Geelong Grammar in 2007. On 30 October 2007, he took pictures up the skirts of female students while on a field trip. He admitted the allegations to the
school and subsequently pleaded guilty to charges. He was convicted in April 2008. He received a community-based order for nine months

[Paphitis]

I beg to differ. I bet I can get my kids into Eaton if I wanted to very easily.

Delusional.

Graham Leslie Dennis

Dennis was a teacher at Geelong Grammar who resided at Bostock House during the 1950s. Dennis was charged in 2008 and ultimately convicted of two counts of gross indecency with a male Geelong Grammar student and two counts of indecent assault on a male Geelong Grammar student in the late 1950s. He was sentenced to a term of imprisonment.

John Hamilton Buckley

Buckley was a resident housemaster at Geelong Grammar during the 1980s. Buckley pleaded guilty to five charges of indecent assault upon a male person and three charges of gross indecency, one charge of sexual penetration with a person aged between 10 and 16 and one charge of possession of child pornography. The charges related to offences that took place between 1980 and 1983, when he was housemaster of a boarding house at Glamorgan. He was sentenced on 11 September 2015 to a total term of imprisonment of seven years and six months. He is required to serve four years and nine months before being eligible for parole.

Jonathan Harvey

Harvey was employed as a mathematics teacher at Geelong Grammar from 1969 to the end of 2004. He was also the housemaster of Allen House – a day boarding house for boys and girls in years 10 to 12 – from 1976 to 1991. At the end of 2004, after complaints were made against him, Harvey agreed to retire, receiving a full extra year’s payout for 2005. In 2007, Harvey pleaded guilty to 10 counts of gross indecency committed against a Geelong Grammar student, BLF, between 1976 and 1978. He was sentenced in December 2007 to a total of two years and eight months jail, of which 10 months were to be served immediately and 22 months were suspended.

Philippe Trutmann

Trutmann was a former student of Geelong Grammar, who was later employed by the school as a live-in boarding house assistant at the Highton campus boarding house between 1985 and 1996. In April 2005, Trutmann pleaded guilty to 19 counts of gross indecency, 22 counts of indecent acts with a child under the age of 16 and one charge of possessing 485 images and 159 videos of pornography involving children. In total, he was convicted of offences against 40 students at Geelong Grammar between 1985 and 1995. He was sentenced to six and a half years imprisonment. In 2011, Trutmann was charged with indecently assaulting Geelong Grammar student BIW. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 12 months imprisonment, which was wholly suspended.

Stefan Van Vuuren

Van Vuuren was employed as a teacher at Geelong Grammar in 2007. On 30 October 2007, he took pictures up the skirts of female students while on a field trip. He admitted the allegations to the
school and subsequently pleaded guilty to charges. He was convicted in April 2008. He received a community-based order for nine months

You are the delusional one who seems to think that an educational institution can preclude members of the public from attempting to enroll.

The only thing that can stop people is COST! And I am sure each School has its own criteria such as a catholic School gives priority to Catholics before accepting others.

Discrimination in the UK is I am sure pretty illegal.

And I am sorry but I am not interested in Google Searches about Geelong Grammar and about stupid kids getting caught taking photos up girls skirts. These schools are targetted because of the classist war against them. Would I send my daughter there?

My word I would and I would feel privileged to be able to do so!

And I would feel safer with my girl attending such a great school rather than attend a public school.

Our private education sector is very sophisticated and we have a lot to be grateful for because of the standards the Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, Orthodox, Presbyterians and United Church's provide our young people - academic standards are higher and the ethos is more sensible and to my liking. Children are generally better disciplined, and perform better.

We are not interested in any politics of envy or any class politics. I feel a sense of pride when I see a new arrival from Afghanistan sending their children to these schools, They remind me of my parents. Salt of the earth!

I guarantee you that they take the very bread from their mouths to give their kids the best opportunities in life and send them to these schools and yes it is a struggle. Lot's of sacrifice.

[erolz66]

FFS Children if you're going to argue about school at least get the spelling correct.... It's Eton not Eaton

Did you have any doubt or confusing what so ever as to what actual school we were talking about because of our misspelling of it's name ?

[Paphitis]

FFS Children if you're going to argue about school at least get the spelling correct.... It's Eton not Eaton

Did you have any doubt or confusing what so ever as to what actual school we were talking about because of our misspelling of it's name ?

I have no doubt what I was talking about and I also have no doubt that we have such schools in Australia that you can argue exceed the standards and exclusiveness of Eton.

https://www.stayathomemum.com.au/my-kid ... australia/

Schools like Geelong Grammar are considered to be the best. This is where Prince Charles went to school and it is at the very least on par with Eton if not higher. It's certainly more expensive by a big margin too.

The Private School industry is so established that this is where the wealthiest people in the world send their kids. From Hollywood families to Billionaire Moguls in the USA and China.

This theory does seem to hold as most of these schools were once home to the most successful and renowned leaders, professionals and talents across the world.

Read more at: https://www.stayathomemum.com.au/my-kid ... australia/