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[Paphitis]

Question, what the fuck does this stupid thread have to do with Cyprus. It is a Cyprus forum. If you had a hard time in school, tough luck, take this shit elsewhere.

You just stand people that are wealthy, you hate them because they can and you can't. We call that jealousy, it is a horrible trait to possess.

Stop been a prick to quality.
Cyprus is a copy paste of everything the UK does, so why not learn what to NOT copy-paste?

Really? Does anyone really give a fuck what he went through in school? Poor Erol, can't take a private school but happy to live in an illegally occupied area in someone else's, yes someone else's property ffs.

And Pyro, stop sucking up to him, you make me want to puke, you head is so far up his ass, you are coming out of his mouth.

But, then again a Turk sympathiser what does one really expect. Asshole.

Hit the nail on the head.

he thinks private schools are evil (envy) and yet the illegally occupied north is somehow not. Mmmm.

[Paphitis]

The education system doesn't provide people with the skills to create financial freedom.

Just the opposite. It creates employees at best. At worst, it churns out graduates with useless degrees.

The education system provided me with debt and an education that has little value or application in the real commercial world. The skills I have today, I learnt myself or from the brutal trials of life.

I had a friend who went to a well know public school. In the same league as Eaton. He was smart but we both ended up at the same university doing the same degree. In the end, neither of us worked in our field of study, we just had debt.

You need a different kind of education to become wealthy and to achieve financial freedom. You wont learn it in schools.

That is true in the most part.

However, it's a bit different in the private sector especially in the upper end elite section of the private sector. Many families are entrepreneurial, so they already have that gene and some of the children are born into money and are raised to takeover businesses or legal or medical practices or whatever the case may be.

[Maximus]

To me it sounds like luck (being born in to money) and relationships of others that played the most part of these "privileged" peoples success and nothing to do with the school they went to.

[Paphitis]

To me it sounds like luck (being born in to money) and relationships of others that played the most part of these "privileged" peoples success and nothing to do with the school they went to.

There is no doubt some kids are born into wealthy and well off families.

But there are so many other families that have tried very hard and sacrificed a lit of their finaces to get their children in such schools.

For instance, I have heard of families borrowing to send their kids to these schools.

Do you know how many migrant kids attend these schools? You see Indian kids, and even Afghan Kids attend elite schools. And these are new arrivals and lovely people to boot. They come from a war torn country, set up a small family business in little Kabul and their kids are being send to some of the most elite Christian Schools. They are very smart and entrepreneurial people these Afghan Families. they come from a war torn country with the shirts off their backs and a couple of suitcases, roll their sleeves up and get on with it.

I really do admire them as a people.

The private Sector provides a lot of choice and protection for families. Not all these schools are elitist. Some are quite affordable to the average person as well, especially most of the Catholic Schools and they are also very well heeled schools. The standards are VERY high as well.

Costs for private schooling in Australia are circ:

1) top tier $25000 per year per student - usually the Anglican and Lutheran Schools and some Catholic,
2) second Tier - 10000 to 25000
3) bottom tier - 5000 to 10000 per year

Boarding schools are dearer because they include accommodation and food.

Some of the second tier and top tier schools are well networked into the establishment as well. So in affect, you are buying your kids a network for life, which gives them more options. The Old Scholars are well established and insular, especially in some industries like politics, law and medicine.

[erolz66]

If I was in the UK, and could afford it and was able to, I would send my Son to Eaton without thinking twice.

You really are delusional. You, as a 'wog' and a 'new money' (with new meaning made since the industrial revolution) just would not be allowed to send your kids there. They would not have them no matter how much money you had and even if you had put their names down from before birth. The system just does not work that way. If you were the king of some wog country , then maybe you might have a shot at getting your prince son in, maybe. If you do not believe me then just try enquiring. People put the names of their kids down for even a chance of a place at Eaton from before they are born and most do not get accepted anyway. Priority is always given to the sons of former Eatonians. Any space left up after these places are allocated are allocated to people with far far more prestige to reflect back on Eaton that you could dream of. A Duke, a Viscount maybe. You are a pleb to them. You are nothing to them. Your money is meaningless to them. They despise you and your 'type' and you gaze at them with loving and admiring eyes, like some kind of puppy dog.

Secondly, you say boarding schools are torture, but in Australia for hundreds of thousands of farming and station (ranch) farmers, boarding schools is where they send their kids to school. You know, they got no other choose when the nearest school is hundreds of km away. SDo they send their kids at schools like Saint Peters.

Nobody is talking about Australian schools other than you. You will talk with 'knowledge' about British public schools, on the basis they are the same as Australian ones and then go on to highlight how they are not the same.

[erolz66]

This is a documentary from 1994. First time I have seen it (found from below the line comments on guardian articles). Having just watched it , I think I have been to 'soft' on such schools, to forgiving in my criticism so far.



It is way way past time for real change on this issue.

[Paphitis]

I don't know how the system works in the UK.

We have schools like Eaton in Australia and yes you have to put your children's names down before birth - because demand for spots is very high.

Not only that, but you have to pay a fee when you register. I registered into 4 private schools and paid fees for all 4 to be sure I had my bases covered.

Not only that, we were interviewed by these schools and the interview had to occur at our house. They wanted to see where we live, how we live and what kind of parents we were. it was very meticulous and it was very formal as well.

generally, we got the impression that they liked ethnic families (Greeks and Italians particularly) and that was advantageous and another thing that striked me (these were Anglican) they noticed my wife's icon of Mary and the first question was, you must be Orthodox Christians?

We both realized very quickly that we were trying to enroll our children into an institution rather than a school. An institution that is over 150 years old. and which schooled so many distinguished people.

If you say you can't get into Eaton, it would not stop me. If you know how to network then you never know what can be done.

[erolz66]

If you say you can't get into Eaton, it would not stop me. If you know how to network then you never know what can be done.

Delusional. You know nothing about how the British public school system works by your own word but you also know you have schools like Eaton in Australia. You do not. Eaton has a longer history than western colonisation of Australia. Far far longer. You think you could get you kids in to Eaton with some 'networking'. You could not. My public school educated, oxford law degree, barrister niece, if she married the right partner and if determined and focused on nothing else might be able to her kids in to a public school that is one more step up the hierarchy. Maybe after two more generations of this, maybe, then one of her great great grand children might, might, have a shot at getting in to Eaton. You have no idea at all. You are delusional.

[Paphitis]

If you say you can't get into Eaton, it would not stop me. If you know how to network then you never know what can be done.

Delusional. You know nothing about how the British public school system works by your own word but you also know you have schools like Eaton in Australia. You do not. Eaton has a longer history than western colonisation of Australia. Far far longer. You think you could get you kids in to Eaton with some 'networking'. You could not. My public school educated, oxford law degree, barrister niece, if she married the right partner and if determined and focused on nothing else might be able to her kids in to a public school that is one more step up the hierarchy. Maybe after two more generations of this, maybe, then one of her great great grand children might, might, have a shot at getting in to Eaton. You have no idea at all. You are delusional.

It's got nothing to do with western colonization of Australia.

Yes Australia has schools like Eaton. Not as old as Eaton but certainly just as prestigious in every aspect and also extremely expensive. We have schools in Australia that are dearer than Eaton. I don't know why they are dearer. Maybe they are a bigger rip off or maybe there is a higher demand. i don't know.

Even the royals have attended our schools in Australia. I just researched and it was actually Prince Charles that went to Geelong Grammar near Melbourne. I mean FFS, the next King and Head of State for both the UK and Australia was schooled in in Australia at Geelong Grammar in Melbourne. What does that tell you?

I don't think Australia is lacking in the private school department to the UK.

Adelaide for instance is famous for its schools but these elite schools are everywhere. Some of these schools are bigger than universities and yes, if you attend one of these schools you actually put it on your resume because they say it is worth more than most university degrees.

I mean sorry, but for a 220 year old country settled initially by convicts as a penal colony, Australia really has developed very fast and to an extremely high standard and there is one thing that has become the norm as of late and that is private schooling.

Saint Andrews, Prince Alfred, and Saint Peters and such like in Adelaide are very much like Eaton if not even more exclusive.

[erolz66]

If you say you can't get into Eaton, it would not stop me. If you know how to network then you never know what can be done.

Delusional. You know nothing about how the British public school system works by your own word but you also know you have schools like Eaton in Australia. You do not. Eaton has a longer history than western colonisation of Australia. Far far longer. You think you could get you kids in to Eaton with some 'networking'. You could not. My public school educated, oxford law degree, barrister niece, if she married the right partner and if determined and focused on nothing else might be able to her kids in to a public school that is one more step up the hierarchy. Maybe after two more generations of this, maybe, then one of her great great grand children might, might, have a shot at getting in to Eaton. You have no idea at all. You are delusional.

It's got nothing to do with western colonization of Australia.

Yes Australia has schools like Eaton. Not as old as Eaton but certainly just as prestigious in every aspect and also extremely expensive. We have schools in Australia that are dearer than Eaton. I don't know why they are dearer. Maybe they are a bigger rip off or maybe there is a higher demand. i don't know.

Even the royals have attended our schools in Australia. I just researched and it was actually Prince Charles that went to Geelong Grammar near Melbourne. I mean FFS, the next King and Head of State for both the UK and Australia was schooled in in Australia at Geelong Grammar in Melbourne. What does that tell you?

I don't think Australia is lacking in the private school department to the UK.

Adelaide for instance is famous for its schools but these elite schools are everywhere. Some of these schools are bigger than universities and yes, if you attend one of these schools you actually put it on your resume because they say it is worth more than most university degrees.

I mean sorry, but for a 220 year old country settled initially by convicts as a penal colony, Australia really has developed very fast and to an extremely high standard and there is one thing that has become the norm as of late and that is private schooling.

Saint Andrews, Prince Alfred, and Saint Peters and such like in Adelaide are very much like Eaton if not even more exclusive.

Your ignorance is astounding. You have no idea at all. Why do the UK royals send their kids to Australian schools ? To reassert their 'ownership' as the head of state of their former colony. Any school you could get your kids in to , by definition, is not like Eaton.