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[Pyrpolizer]

The UK isn't begging.

They have basically made it clear that leaving with a no deal on anything is a perfectly acceptable outcome for them. It's the EU and the remainers who are jumping up and down calling blue murder.

WTO is perfectly OK according to the Brexiteers and Boris.

Naturally, the UK will work together with NI and Eire to ensure the Customs Checks don't bring about any bad situation.

It is begging for 3+ years even Bojo is still begging, and we have people like you dare say that the EU is blackmailing the UK.
The Remainers were 48% plus those who reject leaving the EU with no deal ARE the majority.
Therefore yes the majority of the UK is still begging.
Go man, go, get out, leave us in peace
And as Junker said: You voted to leave, why are you here?--->

[miltiades]

The arsehole told the EU Parliament " your currency is failing " !!
What a big mouth and a bigger arsehole this fucking Plonker is.
Their currency is ....failing !!
The pound is ....thriving.
Anyone in support of this big mouth must be a bigger arsehole than him, just look at the General

[Paphitis]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

There is no confusion our end Kikapu.

We actually believe that the EU is far more dangerous than the Soviet Union because the Soviets only threatened us, it didn't have power over sovereign Nations to demand partition and annexation of part of their territory.

The EU are like a terminal cancer which eats Nation States and it is virtually impossible to treat or eradicate as we have seen with BREXIT. The Brits will be cured and get out but God help the rest that remain.

There are 27 terminally ill Nations in the EU right now. We can only hope that some can save themselves.

[Paphitis]

The UK isn't begging.

They have basically made it clear that leaving with a no deal on anything is a perfectly acceptable outcome for them. It's the EU and the remainers who are jumping up and down calling blue murder.

WTO is perfectly OK according to the Brexiteers and Boris.

Naturally, the UK will work together with NI and Eire to ensure the Customs Checks don't bring about any bad situation.

It is begging for 3+ years even Bojo is still begging, and we have people like you dare say that the EU is blackmailing the UK.
The Remainers were 48% plus those who reject leaving the EU with no deal ARE the majority.
Therefore yes the majority of the UK is still begging.
Go man, go, get out, leave us in peace
And as Junker said: You voted to leave, why are you here?--->

Theresa was begging.

Nigel is a hard BREXITEER. He wants NO DEAL.

Boris wants a deal but is fully prepared for no deal. Therefore a no deal is perfectly acceptable.

That is the whole issue here Pyro. Ever since the UK has claimed it doesn't care whether there is a deal or not or that it is prepared for no deal, the EU and remainers are the ones screaming and throwing all the obstacles.

If you said this to Nigel he would laugh at you. He literally doesn't want ANY deal at all. He tells them everyday and reminds them all of their criminality and anti Democratic behavior.

There was a Quantum shift when Boris took over. This means BREXIT is happening no matter what and without a deal if necessary.

[miltiades]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

There is no confusion our end Kikapu.

We actually believe that the EU is far more dangerous than the Soviet Union because the Soviets only threatened us, it didn't have power over sovereign Nations to demand partition and annexation of part of their territory.

The EU are like a terminal cancer which eats Nation States and it is virtually impossible to treat or eradicate as we have seen with BREXIT. The Brits will be cured and get out but God help the rest that remain.

There are 27 terminally ill Nations in the EU right now. We can only hope that some can save themselves.

What a sick mind you have !!
Where on earth do you get these ludicrously insane comments from. You need help. You have an utterly distorted ideology. So the EU is now, according to your sick mind, annexing a member nation.
You are thouroughly 101% fucking ...stupid !!
What a Plonker !
By the way...General, how are your troops in Syria? Are they looking after your allies , the Kurds ? Is Assad still in power?

[Kikapu]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

There is no confusion our end Kikapu.

We actually believe that the EU is far more dangerous than the Soviet Union because the Soviets only threatened us, it didn't have power over sovereign Nations to demand partition and annexation of part of their territory.

The EU are like a terminal cancer which eats Nation States and it is virtually impossible to treat or eradicate as we have seen with BREXIT. The Brits will be cured and get out but God help the rest that remain.

There are 27 terminally ill Nations in the EU right now. We can only hope that some can save themselves.

I am sorry Paphitis, but your above post is not only ridiculously, but stupid also, but you are entitled to it no matter how warped your thinking is about the EU and all it’s member states who have willingly and democratically chose to become an EU member state giving their people EU citizenship along with their own country’s citizenship. The British never lost their identity by being in the EU for the last 40+ years, so what makes you think other EU members have by accusing them of being “terminally ill”.

You know Paphitis, with your frame of thinking and logic, I am very surprised that you do not demand that Australia should not have the Queen of England as the head of state and have the Union Jack on it’s flag. What about all the sovereignty rights and claims you make that you stand for on behalf of the UK, but you neglect the same at home? After all, why would you accept a non elected official, the Queen, from 12,000 miles away to be head of Australia? Totally intriguing to say the least.

[Paphitis]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

There is no confusion our end Kikapu.

We actually believe that the EU is far more dangerous than the Soviet Union because the Soviets only threatened us, it didn't have power over sovereign Nations to demand partition and annexation of part of their territory.

The EU are like a terminal cancer which eats Nation States and it is virtually impossible to treat or eradicate as we have seen with BREXIT. The Brits will be cured and get out but God help the rest that remain.

There are 27 terminally ill Nations in the EU right now. We can only hope that some can save themselves.

I am sorry Paphitis, but your above post is not only ridiculously, but stupid also, but you are entitled to it no matter how warped your thinking is about the EU and all it’s member states who have willingly and democratically chose to become an EU member state giving their people EU citizenship along with their own country’s citizenship. The British never lost their identity by being in the EU for the last 40+ years, so what makes you think other EU members have by accusing them of being “terminally ill”.

You know Paphitis, with your frame of thinking and logic, I am very surprised that you do not demand that Australia should not have the Queen of England as the head of state and have the Union Jack on it’s flag. What about all the sovereignty rights and claims you make that you stand for on behalf of the UK, but you neglect the same at home? After all, why would you accept a non elected official, the Queen, from 12,000 miles away to be head of Australia? Totally intriguing to say the least.

Again I think I will have to respoectfully disagree with you.

Only a very few EU members had given their citizens the opportunity to democratically vote whether they want to be part of the EU. According to the Lisbon Treaty, every EU member State was suppose to have a referendum or vote. Only Ireland, Holland, and Denmark did. The rest reneged on that obligation. The EU interfered into the domestic politics of all 3 to ensure a YES vote.

The UK didn't either but they did hold a referendum in 2016 and the majority voted to leave. So they are the 4th EU member to offer a say to the general public.

So I challenge your statement about willfully and democratically joining the EU. We have also now seen what democracy means to the EU. It's a mere concept or illusion. They don't support democracy unless they like the outcome.

As for the Australian Monarchy. We had a referendum in Australia, It was a very simple question: "should Australia become a Republic"? The options were YES or NO. That's it!

The vast majority voted to maintain the Crown and all its institutions. I voted for a Republic. I am a Republican even to this day. If there is another vote I will vote for Republic. But I accepted I was on the losing side. It's my obligation as a DEMOCRAT to accept that my side lost and concede defeat with grace and respect for my fellow citizens and my country at large. Therefore, I accept the Australian Crown as our Head of State, an institution I served to defend.

And it's not as if I don't like the Australian Institutions as they stand. On the contrary, I think Australia and the UK are very blessed and have the best form of Government on the planet. Australia in particular which is a carbon copy of the UK except that we do actually have a written Constitution and we have a Senate and not a House of Lords like they do who are not elected but are appointed by the Royal establishment.

[Pyrpolizer]

Only a very few EU members had given their citizens the opportunity to democratically vote whether they want to be part of the EU. According to the Lisbon Treaty, every EU member State was suppose to have a referendum or vote. Only Ireland, Holland, and Denmark did. The rest reneged on that obligation. The EU interfered into the domestic politics of all 3 to ensure a YES vote.

This is nonsense. The treaty of Lisbon was in 2009 (5 years after the last EU enlargement) and just gave the member states the option to leave the EU. However long before that Greenland left the then European Community via referendum.
The EU does not require a referendum from a Country to join on the first place. But the vast majority of member states did it via referendum, Just to remind you North Macedonia just recently held a referendum to join Nato and the EU. I can list you all countries that joined/did not join/or are in the queue for joining, who did a referendum. I have to do a Google search though, but from memory it was nearly all.
You could save me the time and do it yourself as I will be busy today.

[miltiades]

The GREATEST Knowledge that the General should obtain is the KNOWLEDGE that he ....knows NOTHING. Or the words of ...yours truly, Fuck All.

[Paphitis]

Only a very few EU members had given their citizens the opportunity to democratically vote whether they want to be part of the EU. According to the Lisbon Treaty, every EU member State was suppose to have a referendum or vote. Only Ireland, Holland, and Denmark did. The rest reneged on that obligation. The EU interfered into the domestic politics of all 3 to ensure a YES vote.

This is nonsense. The treaty of Lisbon was in 2009 (5 years after the last EU enlargement) and just gave the member states the option to leave the EU. However long before that Greenland left the then European Community via referendum.
The EU does not require a referendum from a Country to join on the first place. But the vast majority of member states did it via referendum, Just to remind you North Macedonia just recently held a referendum to join Nato and the EU. I can list you all countries that joined/did not join/or are in the queue for joining, who did a referendum. I have to do a Google search though, but from memory it was nearly all.
You could save me the time and do it yourself as I will be busy today.

yeh the option to leave and no one went and had a plebiscite so that option wasn't put before the people.

Only 3 countries put it before the people - Denmark, Ireland, and Holand.

UK had a referendum, and Hungary and Italy might have one soon under the policies of their current Euro-skeptic anti EU Governments.

It requires a referendum in my book. The fact that most countries didn't hold one is in my view a very terrible thing. I as a citizen of Cyprus and Australia expect as my constitutional right the privilege to have my say in such matters.

The Brits have always said that their 2016 referendum was 7 years overdue from the Lisbon Treaty.

The Brits have had their say. You have not.