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[kurupetos]

What is infinite is your utter nonsense.

Has anyone heard the Cypriot or Greek MEPs speak? I haven't.

Do they stand and represent their island with as much gusto as Farage, De Lucy or Phillips?

No they don't because all they care about is their little EU pay packet. You are all sold out souls with no pride and no respect for yourselves. When you don't respect yourself, and your country, you don't respect anything or your family.

If I was a Brit, I can say with hand on heart than the UK's MEPs, especially those from BREXIT Party, represent their country with great honour and conviction and when they talk I have no doubt they make millions of brits feel so proud of their country.

BRAVO! Such patriotism doesn't exist in Cyprus anymore.

BRAVO to the Brit MEPs who turn their backs on the so called speudo "EU Anthem"

That's incomplete. How about some more traditional British act...

[Paphitis]

Hey stupid. Is Scotland not a part of the UK, NI Ireland also ? They voted remain you imbassil. Also get your facts straight.
The UK isn't the second largest EU contributor. Get your head out of your arse Plonker.

So what?

NI and Scotland are just part of The United Kingdom.

Referendums are not just conducted in certain areas but what matters is the collective National Result of the referendum.

They have to go along with the rest of the Nation otherwise just think about it for one second what will happen to Cyprus should it decide to leave the EU.

Grow up!

[Mustiejodu]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

[Paphitis]

..........................I musn't forget of my adopted country of Switzerland, which is made up of 26 Cantons. Yes, you got it, I live in a communist country.

You're an inhabitant of Switzerland? That's very interesting. No stranger to referendums then. How do you feel about your country's relationship with the EU? There were quite a few articles some months ago suggesting that the federation was sort of shafting the place - and talk of how Switzerland were either retaliating or circumventing it. Do please tell.

Let me just state up front that I am not a citizen of Switzerland, therefore I cannot vote on any of her referendums, therefore, I do not get too involved with the initiatives which are voted on. Switzerland has Direct Democracy where referendums voted on are implemented providing the referendum has met all the requirements to be valid. If not, then the referendum passed by the people is not implemented. Very simple.

Switzerland is not an EU member as the Swiss twice voted it down in a referendum, but does have bilateral agreements which covers many of EU values, including circumstances around the single market initiatives. Many EU citizens live and work in Switzerland because of those bilateral agreements. I don’t know what issues you are talking about Switzerland having issues with the EU, but so what? If there are issues the Swiss want to address with the EU, they are free to do so as any member state can.

A referendum is approved by a countries Electoral Commission.

That is what happens in Australia and the UK. And the rules to to keep them as simple as possible;e, and only offer 2 options.

Once accepted by the Electoral Commission, then that's it. You can't be going round saying the referendum was done right because the result wasn't the right result. That makes a total mockery of the democratic process.

[Paphitis]

What the EU (or Germany in particular) do not have a right to do, is place any demands on the UK, which undermines their sovereithy or territorial integrity. That is something which is extremely offensive, perhaps illegal, and immoral.

So in your sentimental world:

a)UK's demand to exit the EU, while at the same time have a part of it's territory both inside and outside the EU , does not undermine the UK's sovereignty , neither it's territorial integrity, is not offensive, neither illegal nor immoral.

b)Neither it is illegal and immoral for the UK to demand the EU to take the RISK of destroying the Single market and stability of 27 Countries just for the UK to have her own party.

You should try learning the facts Paphitis. It's the UK who placed demands on the EU not the other way round.

Of course it isn't immoral or illegal for ANY EU member to want to leave the EU if they want to leave the EU.

What the UK did is give the people a say. now this mandate must be executed according to all the promises.

I believe that British Sovereign Customs Union has precedence over the EU Customs Union. it has to be the case. Now, in order to have minimalist disruption on the island of Ireland, the EU and the UK will need to somehow implement procedures to electronically do Customs Checks away from the actual border areas and maintain a minimalist visual impact as far as is practiceable in order to not spark any unpleasant situations.

I am sorry but the UK can not undermine the stability of the Customs Union or the stability of 27 countries. That is total nonsense.

What the UK wants to do is leave, and perhaps enter into a Free Trade arrangement at some point in the future if you want it otherwise trade will continue under WTO provisions.

They are a sovereign nation and do not owe the EU anything.

Then leave and take NI with you, and stop begging the EU to accept your terms that would jeopardize the stability of 27 Countries.
It's the UK who tries to blackmail the EU, not the other way round.
The EU will never yield to stupid British untested experiments.

The UK isn't begging.

They have basically made it clear that leaving with a no deal on anything is a perfectly acceptable outcome for them. It's the EU and the remainers who are jumping up and down calling blue murder.

WTO is perfectly OK according to the Brexiteers and Boris.

Naturally, the UK will work together with NI and Eire to ensure the Customs Checks don't bring about any bad situation.

[Paphitis]

What is infinite is your utter nonsense.

Has anyone heard the Cypriot or Greek MEPs speak? I haven't.

Do they stand and represent their island with as much gusto as Farage, De Lucy or Phillips?

No they don't because all they care about is their little EU pay packet. You are all sold out souls with no pride and no respect for yourselves. When you don't respect yourself, and your country, you don't respect anything or your family.

If I was a Brit, I can say with hand on heart than the UK's MEPs, especially those from BREXIT Party, represent their country with great honour and conviction and when they talk I have no doubt they make millions of brits feel so proud of their country.

BRAVO! Such patriotism doesn't exist in Cyprus anymore.

BRAVO to the Brit MEPs who turn their backs on the so called speudo "EU Anthem"

That's incomplete. How about some more traditional British act...

I bet the Brits are waiting to provide such entertainment on Independence Eve.

[miltiades]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You call your self .... enlightened ????
So, according to you, the EU is ... communist !! Another Plonker !!

[Paphitis]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

Keep up the good fight brother.

It looks like they are fighting a losing battle and are playing into BREXITEER hands anyway. They are not in any position to progress from the corner they backed themselves into.

The EU have literally blackmailed the UK and their rhetoric amounts to nothing less than annexation and compromising of a nations territorial integrity. There is no recovery from there.

[Kikapu]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

[miltiades]

Am I the only enlightened one here. Dont you see that this EU ideology and having all these countries under one flag, national anthem, same currency and hopes to have one big army is another desguise for communism! And it’s all Christian countries with the same beliefs and aspirations. BULL SHIT. GCs Bulgarians or Romanians as an example are not similar to Germans or the french as an example. We have to fight against communism and therefore Brexit must happen to pave the way for other countries to seek their independence from this communist aspired organisation.

You make it sound like the Germans and the French forced all the other countries in the EU to join the club or else.

Perhaps you are confusing the EU with communist Soviet Union invading and forcing other countries to become part of the Soviet block against their will.

Each members of the EU willingly accepted the terms of the EU before joining. Some smaller countries got certain exemptions through negotiations before joining. No coercion, no threats, no blackmailing, the member states democratically chose to join the EU, and if they wanted to leave the EU, they can. No one is forcing any members to remain in the EU.

It seems your beef with the EU is because it is a “Christian club” and are refusing to let in a Muslim country like Turkey into the club. Did you ever think it is because Muslim countries and Democracy are not compatible nor with the EU values which are the reasons why Turkey will not make it into the EU anytime soon, if ever?

Excellent answer Kikapu, a contrast from the one given by General Stupid !!
I no longer bother to reply to idiots in a ...civilized manner, such a waste of energy.
As one gets older? In my opinion, one develops a ...6th sense enabling one to instantly recognise stupidity, entertain the though and instantly and completely reject it. The EU is the greatest ever union of nations, it has modernised many member nations in numerous ways not least in food production .