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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:40 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Learn the facts of how time is allocated to speakers in the EU parliament Paphitis.
The Brexit party with 30 MEPs only got 1 minute talk time (our of 3 hours total) when the issue of Brexit was recently discussed in the EU Parliament.
MEPs don't rely on talk time to affect decisions. They participate in committees, and one of our MEPs is now a commissioner.
If you don't participate in committees or you don't join any of the 8(?) recognized groups you basically do nothing in the EU-and you have no say.
That's what Farage is doing now .
Did you know that Italy has 10 MEPs like that? Spain has 2 (of the "Catalionia Now") party...

Most of Farage's fuss in the EU was when UKIP joined the Europe of Nations and Freedom group, hence he was allocated about 4-5 minutes talk time +some more for questions.

Cypriot MEP's all joined larger groups and they too get their 4-5 minutes on issues concerning Cyprus.


I know how it works, and they need to apply for the time before they get it.

And when they get it, if they get it, they don't seem to know how to use it or have any impact whatsoever, unlike the BREXIT MEPs who are running rings in the so called pseud "euro-parliament".

I have seen many Italians MEPs create a stir, but when it comes to Greek and Cypriot MEPs it seem its oh so quiet! Shhhhh Shhhhhhh... :lol:
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:48 pm

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Paphitis wrote:Why can't we have a Nigel Farage type Cypriot MEP that gets up every day to embarrass the EU over the illegal Turkish Parliament?


Totally agree, the trouble with the Greeks and Cypriots, they only think of their pocket nothing else, they are waste of F skin I hate them all. Not a dickie bird from any of them. Why are they even there apart from the monthly pay cheques. Useless MFs.


And what are the 30+ Brexit party MEPs doing now in the EU other than pocketing 30,000 Euro+ per month in salary and allowances?
If they were true idealists they should refuse to even take the seats.
They have no say, joined no group, have virtually no talking time, what are they doing there???

Notice there's still a possibility the UK may stay in the EU. What will they be doing in the next 4 years???
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby Paphitis » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:53 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Why can't we have a Nigel Farage type Cypriot MEP that gets up every day to embarrass the EU over the illegal Turkish Parliament?


Totally agree, the trouble with the Greeks and Cypriots, they only think of their pocket nothing else, they are waste of F skin I hate them all. Not a dickie bird from any of them. Why are they even there apart from the monthly pay cheques. Useless MFs.


And what are the 30+ Brexit party MEPs doing now in the EU other than pocketing 30,000 Euro+ per month in salary and allowances?
If they were true idealists they should refuse to even take the seats.
They have no say, joined no group, have virtually no talking time, what are they doing there???

Notice there's still a possibility the UK may stay in the EU. What will they be doing in the next 4 years???


yes they are pocketing the cash but they are also very clearly advocating for BREXIT on the 31st of October, which means their salary disappears in 19 days.

That should tell you what you need to know. they are not there for the chair.

they are there for their country and to defend their country from external subjugation. They are fighting for the UK.

No they have to take their seats. They need to create maximum disruption till the coming VE and Independence Day when their seats will no longer exist as they will be free from the so called speudo foreigner speudo "euro-parliament"

And if BREXIT doesn't occur on the 31st for any reason, they must continue to occupy their seats until they are ordered to withdraw by PM Boris Johnson.
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:58 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Learn the facts of how time is allocated to speakers in the EU parliament Paphitis.
The Brexit party with 30 MEPs only got 1 minute talk time (our of 3 hours total) when the issue of Brexit was recently discussed in the EU Parliament.
MEPs don't rely on talk time to affect decisions. They participate in committees, and one of our MEPs is now a commissioner.
If you don't participate in committees or you don't join any of the 8(?) recognized groups you basically do nothing in the EU-and you have no say.
That's what Farage is doing now .
Did you know that Italy has 10 MEPs like that? Spain has 2 (of the "Catalionia Now") party...

Most of Farage's fuss in the EU was when UKIP joined the Europe of Nations and Freedom group, hence he was allocated about 4-5 minutes talk time +some more for questions.

Cypriot MEP's all joined larger groups and they too get their 4-5 minutes on issues concerning Cyprus.


I know how it works, and they need to apply for the time before they get it.

And when they get it, if they get it, they don't seem to know how to use it or have any impact whatsoever, unlike the BREXIT MEPs who are running rings in the so called pseud "euro-parliament".

I have seen many Italians MEPs create a stir, but when it comes to Greek and Cypriot MEPs it seem its oh so quiet! Shhhhh Shhhhhhh...

:lol:


BREXIT MEPs have absolutely no say, and nobody even cares whether they are there or not.
Our together with the Greek and many other MEPs are not in the EU to make a fuss about nothing. We are not comedians.
Decisions are taken by large political groups in which we only have a couple of votes.
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby erolz66 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:02 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... propaganda

So this is the sort of thing the Brexit party meps are doing

Brexit party MEPs vote against plans to tackle Russian propaganda


and this is the kind of effect they have

Resolution seeking upgrade of EU counter-disinformation unit nevertheless passes easily


The EU works on co operation not confrontation. Having MEP's that can only confront will produce poor results.
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:02 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Learn the facts of how time is allocated to speakers in the EU parliament Paphitis.
The Brexit party with 30 MEPs only got 1 minute talk time (our of 3 hours total) when the issue of Brexit was recently discussed in the EU Parliament.
MEPs don't rely on talk time to affect decisions. They participate in committees, and one of our MEPs is now a commissioner.
If you don't participate in committees or you don't join any of the 8(?) recognized groups you basically do nothing in the EU-and you have no say.
That's what Farage is doing now .
Did you know that Italy has 10 MEPs like that? Spain has 2 (of the "Catalionia Now") party...

Most of Farage's fuss in the EU was when UKIP joined the Europe of Nations and Freedom group, hence he was allocated about 4-5 minutes talk time +some more for questions.

Cypriot MEP's all joined larger groups and they too get their 4-5 minutes on issues concerning Cyprus.


I know how it works, and they need to apply for the time before they get it.

And when they get it, if they get it, they don't seem to know how to use it or have any impact whatsoever, unlike the BREXIT MEPs who are running rings in the so called pseud "euro-parliament".

I have seen many Italians MEPs create a stir, but when it comes to Greek and Cypriot MEPs it seem its oh so quiet! Shhhhh Shhhhhhh...

:lol:


BREXIT MEPs have absolutely no say, and nobody even cares whether they are there or not.
Our together with the Greek and many other MEPs are not in the EU to make a fuss about nothing. We are not comedians.
Decisions are taken by large political groups in which we only have a couple of votes.



So you agree that the EU is totally undemocratic and MEPs have absolutely no power then...? :lol:
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm

erolz66 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/10/brexit-party-meps-vote-against-measure-to-combat-russian-propaganda

So this is the sort of thing the Brexit party meps are doing

Brexit party MEPs vote against plans to tackle Russian propaganda


and this is the kind of effect they have

Resolution seeking upgrade of EU counter-disinformation unit nevertheless passes easily



So you also agree that the EU is totally undemocratic and MEPs have absolutely no power then...? :lol:
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
B25 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Why can't we have a Nigel Farage type Cypriot MEP that gets up every day to embarrass the EU over the illegal Turkish Parliament?


Totally agree, the trouble with the Greeks and Cypriots, they only think of their pocket nothing else, they are waste of F skin I hate them all. Not a dickie bird from any of them. Why are they even there apart from the monthly pay cheques. Useless MFs.


And what are the 30+ Brexit party MEPs doing now in the EU other than pocketing 30,000 Euro+ per month in salary and allowances?
If they were true idealists they should refuse to even take the seats.
They have no say, joined no group, have virtually no talking time, what are they doing there???

Notice there's still a possibility the UK may stay in the EU. What will they be doing in the next 4 years???


yes they are pocketing the cash but they are also very clearly advocating for BREXIT on the 31st of October, which means their salary disappears in 19 days.

That should tell you what you need to know. they are not there for the chair.

they are there for their country and to defend their country from external subjugation. They are fighting for the UK.

No they have to take their seats. They need to create maximum disruption till the coming VE and Independence Day when their seats will no longer exist as they will be free from the so called speudo foreigner speudo "euro-parliament"

And if BREXIT doesn't occur on the 31st for any reason, they must continue to occupy their seats until they are ordered to withdraw by PM Boris Johnson.


Oh I see. They have a lot of work to do. ALL 30+ must be there at all times. 5 of them wouldn't be enough.
Btw they are not allowed to do create any disruption, you are just imagining things.
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby erolz66 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:07 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:So you agree that the EU is totally undemocratic and MEPs have absolutely no power then...? :lol:


Broadly speaking they have about the same power as the house of Lords does in UK domestic politics. They are however elected. Over time as the EU has evolved they have steadily increased their level of power vs the other two main EU institutions - commission and council.
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Re: I just want to express my disgust on Cypriot MEPs

Postby erolz66 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:10 pm

Paphitis wrote: yes they are pocketing the cash but they are also very clearly advocating for BREXIT on the 31st of October, which means their salary disappears in 19 days.


Farage has been pocketing this cash for 15 years now. You need to check an MEP's attendance record if your seriously want to compare how much 'work' they have done as an MEP whilst pocketing the cash. Farage does not come out well in any such comparison nor do UKIP meps generally.
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