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[Pyrpolizer]

Imo the degree of Turkish occupation in Cyprus with the presence of TCs is the 3rd top box from the left.
Well, maybe the 4th

[erolz66]

Imo the degree of Turkish occupation in Cyprus with the presence of TCs is the 3rd top box from the left.
Well, maybe the 4th

All imho

Now at last we are 'talking'. We have a chance of getting to some real 'juice'. Spectrums. Just knowing that something is on a spectrum tells us next to nothing. Spending all our time arguing if something is or is not on a spectrum, in a binary fashion, is just wasted time. It gives us little to no information. No 'juice'. Thanks Pyrpolizer (and for that movie which I have downloaded but not watched yet but know I am going to love).

So I would suggest that for an average Cypriot who comes from a Turkish ethnic background, the degree to which they consider Turkish presence in Cyprus an occupation, would be 4 squares to the left from the bottom right side of the spectrum. For me personally the place on the spectrum would be higher, probably around middle of 2nd row from the bottom.

I would also suggest that in the context of how much pressure the EU (or the 'world powers' in general) places on Turkey to withdraw from Cyprus, the relevance of there being a 20% ish minority of Cypriots on this place on the spectrum is real and material. That if all Cypriots were up near the other end, then the level of pressure would be much greater than seen to date. That is why it 'makes a difference' imo.

[Pyrpolizer]

Sure but the spectrum is only useful if you want to measure the bias of the people, not as an objective reality. This bias is also time related and depends on whether you are harmed by it or benefited. E.g. When the Soviets entered East Germany (ex-DDR) they objectively occupied it. Then they imposed communism via local proxies and removed their own military. If you’d ask an East German in the 90s whether the Soviets occupy DDR he would say "erm…only a little".

Enjoy the movie Eroltz it’s top of it’s kind, moreover it talks about you.

[Paphitis]

EU calling on Turkey to be more democratic whilst allowing the continued occupation against an EU State, whilst the EU try to undermine the British Demoicratic Process in the oldest democracy on the face of earth.

Shame on the EU! Shame! And shame on all the blinded supporters,

As already mentioned turkey's occupation dates back to 1974
The EU accepted the whole of Cyprus while also accepting it was under occupation hence the aquis would not be implemented in the occupied.
Actually we were very lucky to even get in, because no one with border disputes can.
We joined because we had smart people plus Greece striking a deal actually blackmailing the EU in vetoing it's 2004 enlargement unless Cyprus was in.
The deal was a)Cyprus in together with Malta and a number (8?) of ex communist countries b) Turkey could start accession negotiations on some chapters only.

We hoped the EU would help solve the Cyprob. It was just a dream...
Moreover Turkey has "friendly" nations inside the EU the UK been the leader followed by Scandinavians.
We will see next week if the EU would at least impose trade sanctions on Turkey for violating Cyprus' EEZ

Imo you don't understand what the EU is all about. Of course it allows Turkey to continue occupying part of Cyprus. We got in with that problem remember? And the EU did us a favor, while never promised to solve it for us. The EU can only apply limited pressure considering Turkey's proxies inside the EU.

Try asking to leave the EU and watch them Annex the occupied third claiming that the RoC Government does not represent them and as such they will require another backstop.

[Pyrpolizer]

And after they annex it where will they do their money laundering?
All casinos are illegal in Turkey...
There are too many reasons why they don't want to annex it Paphitis. I just named one.

[Paphitis]

And after they annex it where will they do their money laundering?
All casinos are illegal in Turkey...
There are too many reasons why they don't want to annex it Paphitis. I just named one.

Now I don't know what the hell you are talking about. I am talking about the EU's criminal attempts to Annex NI from the UK.

They won't do anything bad to Cyprus until Cyprus becomes Bankrupt again in which case they will ask a mortgage on the entire island and hand it over to the Banks, or if Cyprus wants to exit, they will Annex the occupied area claiming the RoC doesn't represent the TCs.

This is how the level of criminality I for one rate them with.