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[cyprusgrump]

there a comin. not long left now. 19th is next week right. thats the day of reckoning where b'stard will have to explain how easy it was not to get a deal.

unless of course he has decided to sacrifice northern ireland. but either way he will not get hisplan though because unless it has passed the 6 tests labour set for the brexit plan, it will not pass even if he does get a deal, that will be voted down just like may's deal and its not even may, it is october.

You're as mental as Thornberry and Abbott!

[Londonrake]

It doesn’t matter how many times it’s said The current “Democrats” in Parliament will probably vote down absolutely any deal - and of course no deal.

Despite 40 months of bullshit it always comes right back to 23rd June 2016: Remain or Leave.

[erolz66]

It doesn’t matter how many times it’s said The current “Democrats” in Parliament will probably vote down absolutely any deal - and of course no deal.

Despite 40 months of bullshit it always comes right back to 23rd June 2016: Remain or Leave.

If a deal does get brokered and put to parliament and it gets rejected by parliament this will be because those who are against Brexit entirely AND those who are 'extreme brexiters' vote against it. That you will then place all the blame only on one of the groups that were necessary to block it and absolve the other entirely will just be par for the course. It is exactly what has happened to date.

If a deal is brokered, any deal, of any description that does gain a majority in the commons I will accept that because I am a democrat. I have to wonder if such a deal is passed in the commons and Farage comes out and says it is brino , a betrayal, not real brexit - will you accept such anyway, as a democrat ?

[Lordo]

i asked for some help in finding a compromise regarding the backstop and what do i get nofink. exactly what you pibol have.

here it is again.

so now the only thing left to decide is what is the default position when we leave the eu. is northern ireland going to be in and stormont unilaterally can vote to stay in or come out or is the default position out and stormont again unilaterally can vote to come back in or stay out.

where is the compromise to be had?
is it possible to reach a compromise between these two positions?

any ideas?

[Lordo]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/business-economics/businesses-to-be-hit-with-15bn-customs-bill-in-no-deal-brexit-the-same-amount-paid-to-eu-for-membership-in-2018/08/10/

now this is when we reach the twilight zone and begin to doubt our existance. i can see brexshitteeers havenot got a clue, perhas they can help with this one

when i read this i just did not know what to do, lost for words. i know unusual but it just happened.

somebody please explain this.

"" Businesses would be hit with an annual £15 billion bill for filling in customs forms for trade between the UK and the EU in the event of a no-deal Brexit, HM Revenue & Customs has warned.

An official government paper, released this week, has calculated the cost to business to complete all the paperwork for the 215 million consignments of goods crossing between the UK and the EU, assuming trade remained at 2017 levels.

It is estimated that large companies importing and exporting in high volumes would face a cost of £28 for filling in the forms for each load imported.

This would take an employee 1hr 45mins on average.""

any ideas how many hours of work the business wil lose over this.

this is from hmrc

i mean this is before any taxes are applied either direction. which planet, which solar system which universe, where? which dark matter. somebody help.

[Londonrake]

It was all for show. Part of "The blame game". Meaningless.

To give either tribe a veto on leaving meant that of course they never would. That isn't a compromise, it's a joke.

[Lordo]

and there is more. come close, come close, not that close.

"If the work was outsourced, HMRC estimates the cost would rise to £56 for each consignment, based on the average charges of freight forwarders.

That leaves the annual “static total ongoing administrative burden on UK-EU trade” at £15 billion- almost exactly what we paid to the EU for membership last year.

On the low side

According to The Financial Times, HMRC’s figures are likely to be on the low side as they did not include the additional costs of complying with new VAT procedures for services companies, which dominate the UK economy, or for new VAT rules that would apply to parcels following a no-deal Brexit."

now how many brexshitter feel they have been stupefied to vote to leave.

[Londonrake]

You really do, don't you? Sit there all day, every day, hands poised over the keyboard, waiting for the next response to arrive. When it doesn't come quick enough you churn out sequential post after post after post. Sometimes 3 or 4 in a row.

Lordo, you are a sad man. You really need to look into getting some sort of life. You know, a meaningful existence, outside of this little forum.

Here's an idea! You could sign up at the local poly for a course in English. Like a lot of other "Pibol". A bit like the 70/80s TV series - Mind your language.

[Pyrpolizer]

and there is more. come close, come close, not that close.

"If the work was outsourced, HMRC estimates the cost would rise to £56 for each consignment, based on the average charges of freight forwarders.

That leaves the annual “static total ongoing administrative burden on UK-EU trade” at £15 billion- almost exactly what we paid to the EU for membership last year.

On the low side

According to The Financial Times, HMRC’s figures are likely to be on the low side as they did not include the additional costs of complying with new VAT procedures for services companies, which dominate the UK economy, or for new VAT rules that would apply to parcels following a no-deal Brexit."

now how many brexshitter feel they have been stupefied to vote to leave.

It cost me about CYP 80 for LCL (Less container Load) shipments before we joined the EU. and about 150 for Full container loads.
The costs would still be the same either for 1 or 7 full container loads. (that's the maximum I ever imported in one shot).
The problem is you have to pay the VAT in advance. So if there are rotten, or broken goods inside the procedure to claim back the VAT is not effective and in most cases results to pure loss. Also there are a lot of thefts in LCL shipments, and you have to count everything in front of the customs officer to prove some quantities are missing or else you loose your right to claim the VAT back.
Now how are you going to unpack 7-8 pallets each 2 cum and count everything is beyond me...

[erolz66]

There are still some voices of reason out there. Too few maybe and too drowned out by the shouters but they are there at least.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/br ... 52036.html