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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:53 pm

Lordo wrote:here is an idea that is the thin end of the wedge. few weeks back labour suggested that we can reduce work to 4 days a week without loss of pay and benefits.

and here is a company that has implemented it. admittedly they have chosen to increase the hours in a day slightly but that will be reduced to normal hoursagain in no time.

oneof the benefits is that sickness level has dropped.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/lifestyle/when-did-we-convince-ourselves-that-having-a-vote-is-undemocratic/05/12/


Most probably because not needing to have one more day of stressful commute to work on the overcrowded buses, tubes and railways.
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:07 pm

B25 wrote:And during all this time they remain Cypriot (and Hellenic), and then come the Ottoman Rule and they would have you believe that Cyprus was Turkish ffs. Thanks for the reminder all the same.


Not it did nor remain Cypriot and Hellenic. It remained Cypriot mostly which ended to Greek speaking and Turkish speaking Cypriots of similar culture and ethics. A lot of Cypriot DNA originates from the Middle East (Syria, Palestine, Jews, Arabs etc) We still had a lot of influence from the Venetians and British, most Varoshiotes are decedents of Venetians, also many Lefkosiates who were living within the walls.
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:21 pm

miltiades wrote:Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.


Because he has a strong and in many aspects valid opinion Milti and I don't see the reason why we should ignore him.
I personally breathed UK's air for a couple of hours waiting in Heathrow for a transit flight.
Does this mean I should not have an opinion?
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:26 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.


Because he has a strong and in many aspects valid opinion Milti and I don't see the reason why we should ignore him.
I personally breathed UK's air for a couple of hours waiting in Heathrow for a transit flight.
Does this mean I should not have an opinion?

having an opinion is one thing spewing out all that shit is another. not quite the same thing is it?
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:34 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.


Because he has a strong and in many aspects valid opinion Milti and I don't see the reason why we should ignore him.
I personally breathed UK's air for a couple of hours waiting in Heathrow for a transit flight.
Does this mean I should not have an opinion?

having an opinion is one thing spewing out all that shit is another. not quite the same thing is it?


But you have to prove it shit to qualify as such...
Try it with Paphitis and see how far you can go :wink:
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:42 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.


Because he has a strong and in many aspects valid opinion Milti and I don't see the reason why we should ignore him.
I personally breathed UK's air for a couple of hours waiting in Heathrow for a transit flight.
Does this mean I should not have an opinion?

having an opinion is one thing spewing out all that shit is another. not quite the same thing is it?


But you have to prove it shit to qualify as such...
Try it with Paphitis and see how far you can go :wink:

i have no time for him as he is a compulsive liar and a faschist to boot.
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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:43 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why does anyone take this moron even a tiny bit seriously ? Haven't you yet realized that he is an utter idiot ? The fact that he ....knows so much about the UK, a country he has only visited perhaps once or twice or Cyprus that again has only visited perhaps again once or twice ?
Just look at the crap he posted on the Syrian thread, imagining himself as the coalition's commander in chief. He hates Russia, he refers to Putin as Pootin, he hates intensely in fact as much as he hates the ..." criminal" EU. Just as the other arsehole, Fuckrage, he made sure he and his family have EU passports.


Because he has a strong and in many aspects valid opinion Milti and I don't see the reason why we should ignore him.
I personally breathed UK's air for a couple of hours waiting in Heathrow for a transit flight.
Does this mean I should not have an opinion?

Yes you can have an opinion but you most certainly would not claim that you know the English better than someone who lived amongst them for more than half a century.
This moron has made him self an expert not only on the UK but on the whole of Europe , he calls the EU " criminals" does this strike you as man with valid opinions ?
He strikes me as a complete idiot, a pretentious arsehole !!
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:50 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
I see. You mean the same UN that prevented the break up of Yugoslavia with thousands of deaths in Europe, not to mentions many other conflicts around the world. Is that the same undemocratic UN you are talking about? Isn't funny, that all the once satellite states of Yugoslavia have either already or wants to become an EU member. Is it because the EU provides economic and political stability to the whole of Europe? Surely that can't be! :roll:

Racism and fascism is already taking place in the UK with the likes of Boris Johnson, the Tory party and it's supporters, which even the brother of Boris can't take it and left the party. It will only get worse if the UK is completely out of the EU with no oversight of the EU values the UK has enjoyed for the past half a century. I am glad I do not live in the UK.


Yugoslavia was always going to break up.

Nothing the UN, EU or NATO can do about it.

Kikapu, I am astonished you are calling Boris' supporters as being fascist and racist. :shock: It's a complete cop out.

It's seems to be flavour of the month now to call people who have some pride in their country as patriots and who wish to maintain their way of life as they know it, as being racist and fascist.

The fascists Kikapu, are not the Brits, or the Hungarians. They are patriots.

The fascists are the EU who treated Greece, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus the way they did with massive austerity and the EU who disrespects the democratic wishes of the British People in the biggest vote held in Britain in living memory.


Racism comes in many different forms, and yes, Boris is a racist along with Farage. They don’t need to wear KKK outfits, but look at their racist drives during the referendum, which were pointed at the Poles, who had legal rights to be in the UK and towards the Turks should they become an EU members. Surely you don’t think Boris is a Democrat, do you? Boris talks about democracy when it suits him but then throws 21 of his MPs out of the Tory party because these MPs used their democratic rights to vote against the Tory Party’s wishes. Was is not the people who had voted these 21 MPs into the Tory party democratically in the first place? What gives Boris the right to disenfranchise those who had voted for these 21 Tory MPs. When Boris’s own brother walked away from Boris and the Tory party, only shows how disgusted he was with Boris and the Tory party to what they stood for.

On the subject of “protecting one’s culture’, just how do you propose the UK will do that by being out of the EU? All advanced growing economies need more workers that their country can produce due to low birth rates. Does it matter if these workers come legally from EU states who have European cultures with freedom of movement or with a point system from around the world which may not have European cultures, but instead totally different ones. Protecting the British culture argument is a totally bullshit argument as it cannot be protected 100%. The EU citizens in the UK are more likely to integrate to British culture far more than those from most other countries who may be coming on point system, or is the point system is just a front to discriminate certain people from different cultures from coming to the UK? That too can be considered to be racist, no?


Hyperbole!

But yes, I understand when that side is faced with a losing battle, their only tactic is to discredit, and accuse the opposition of racism, fascism, and compare them to all kinds of nasty things like the KKK and Nazism.

But here are the facts. If I was white like Boris and Nigel are, I too would be accused of being a KKK or Hitler incarnate. Nothing can be further from the truth.

I love and respect other cultures and love plurality. I, much like Boris and Nigel would like to defend democracy, the right of the common citizen, the worker, and the sovereign borders of nation states like Britain, Cyprus and all the nations of the world,

The other irony is this. Those who label us as KKK and Nazis, about to shove hundreds of people into gas chambers, it is in fact they who are compromising democracy and therefore by definition far closer to the KKK and Nazism than we can ever be.

How can Britain protect its sovereignty and culture. They can regain control of their border and introduce the Australian Immigration points system which they have been wanting to do.

Paphitis,
No one accusing anyone being a KKK or being a Nazi. All I said was, that racism comes in many forms and one does not need to be wearing a KKK outfit, that’s all. That is a huge difference from your response. :roll:


Yes they do Kikapu.

People are doing this all the time.

Even you yesterday accused Boris and Nigel of being racist only yesterday and if they were anymore racist they would be in the KKK.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis seems to have an obsession with all the videos he is posting, videos where the creators are pushing their own agendas in creating fake "news" and in most cases, just to get attention of unsuspecting audience in order to sell some online products. He is most definitely spending too much time watching these biased videos. :D


Fake news is already being propagated my the MSM.

People need to obtain good information from other sources in order to establish what's what.

The MSM and the Corporates are controlling the agenda here.

The videos I post contain great content and good information and some of the information is cutting edge stuff.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 07, 2019 2:56 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:I'm not talking about Cyprus at all.

I just used Cyprus as an example to prove to you that a trade deficit does not translate into Government debt. I explained to you that the majority of trade occurs from business and individual consumers.

If it did translate into debt, Cyprus Government debt will increase by 5 to 6 billion Euros per year. That is not sustainable at all.

What translates into debt is when the Government spends more than it raises in tax and other income.

I am just trying to help you.


The issue was not about that but for the loss of culture.
As for the trade deficit yes it does translate into debt when you can't cover it fromother sources be it foreign investment or Services
The whole point was that there is no valid basis to expect the UK to reduce it's trade deficit or increase it's services sector.


That was not a criticism about Cyprus. That is concern.

I feel concerned that Cyporus will indeed lose its culture over time. Not only will it lose its culture, but eventually the Cypriots will lose politically and I don't wish to spell it out for you although I would be happy to PM you.

No the trade deficit does not translate to debt at all unless you are specifically only talking about trade conducted by the Cyprus Government which is only a very small proportion of the total trade.

Most global trade is conducted by Corporations and businesses. Even individuals like us trade when we buy stuff over the net. The item we are buying is coming from somewhere overseas and hence that is trade. For example, fuel which is a big item for any country is imported to Cyprus from major Fuel Suppliers like Shell, BP etc and are distributed to their Cypriot wholesalers in Cyprus which is then sold throughout the island's supply chain. The Government would buy very little from that other than what it needs for the Military, to run essential Government Services such as police, health system and so on. Even JETA1 is supplied to the airports from Shell, and BP to their Cypriot wholesalers who on sell to their Airport Fueling Agents.

If trade deficits translate to debt, then Cyprus is literally a Bankrupted State.

https://in-cyprus.com/cyprus-trade-defi ... pril-2019/


I repeat: they translate into debt as assets owned by foreigners IF YOU DON'T OFFSET them by foreign investment or services. Services include tourism, telecommunications, information, travel, transportation,construction, financial services,insurance and many others totaling about 7bn in 2018. We were on the minus regarding services only on a few items items e.g intellectual property, services received by business, and recreational/cultural services etc. Hence Cyprus' debt is actually decreasing.


No they don't translate into debt at all.

And the only receipts the Government gets from tourism is the tax they raise from the profits since 99.99% is private generated income.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2258 ... -and-debt/
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