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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:09 am

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Lordo wrote:you cannotmake it up. this asshole bet in shares that companies will collapse after brexit. 300million pounds worth. i will remind him when he loses after not brexshiting.

its becoming clearer now the battle lines are drawn. manchild will not be able to get a deal removing the backstop so he is about to dump on them but just before he does he has promissed them a bridge so the border between northern ireland and rest of uk is just a political one as it were. thwy will have his guts for garter. on the other hand if he goes without a no-deal agreement brexit party will challenge him in the coming election, that means he cannot win.

what a mess.


At least they will have a choice after No Deal Brexit. If things go bad, the good Friday agreement gives them the choice to abandon the UK and join Ireland via referendum. Imagine that actually happening!! :wink:


Good luck with that one.

The Northern Irish are hellbent to remain with Britain. There is a lot of sectarian troubles between them and the Catholics.

The entire issue is that they want to remain with Britain but they also don't want to see a hard border.

That issue has already been resolved with checkpoints for fright trucks conducted far away from the crossings.


U.K. voting to leave the EU opens the doors for other referendums too, like for Northern Ireland and Éire to join together as well as for the Scottish independence. Surely if it’s good for the UK to have such referendum, it is also good for the individual states within the UK. Opening the ponderous box can have many unexpected consequences sometimes.


You are referring to Scotland and the SNP. Northern Ireland wants to go with Britain and I think that won’t change for a long time from what I know.

Scotland had its referendum. But it can have another.

Do you see how absurd they are and how stupid the SNP are? Asking on the one hand to leave the Union and join the EU. In other words no independence at all.

The Scots won’t go for it and will vote it down again. They will prefer the Union over the EU. It doesn’t make sense.
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:02 am

Paphitis wrote:You are referring to Scotland and the SNP. Northern Ireland wants to go with Britain and I think that won’t change for a long time from what I know.

Scotland had its referendum. But it can have another.

Do you see how absurd they are and how stupid the SNP are? Asking on the one hand to leave the Union and join the EU. In other words no independence at all.

The Scots won’t go for it and will vote it down again. They will prefer the Union over the EU. It doesn’t make sense.


Plus they'd have to accept the failing €uro as their currency! :lol:
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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:13 am

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Paphitis wrote:You are referring to Scotland and the SNP. Northern Ireland wants to go with Britain and I think that won’t change for a long time from what I know.

Scotland had its referendum. But it can have another.

Do you see how absurd they are and how stupid the SNP are? Asking on the one hand to leave the Union and join the EU. In other words no independence at all.

The Scots won’t go for it and will vote it down again. They will prefer the Union over the EU. It doesn’t make sense.


Plus they'd have to accept the failing €uro as their currency! :lol:

The ....failing euro ?? Are you naturally stupid or , like Paphitis , you took a course at Oxford Stupeditis?
Where is your brain stupid. The euro is strong against ALL currencies, Sterling is weak, because of Brexhit !! I always knew that LEPs ( Little Englander Plonkers) only had one active brain cell but the bucket on your head is restricting oxygen to your singular brain cell. What a Plonker !!
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm

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Paphitis wrote:You are referring to Scotland and the SNP. Northern Ireland wants to go with Britain and I think that won’t change for a long time from what I know.

Scotland had its referendum. But it can have another.

Do you see how absurd they are and how stupid the SNP are? Asking on the one hand to leave the Union and join the EU. In other words no independence at all.

The Scots won’t go for it and will vote it down again. They will prefer the Union over the EU. It doesn’t make sense.


Plus they'd have to accept the failing €uro as their currency! :lol:

The ....failing euro ?? Are you naturally stupid or , like Paphitis , you took a course at Oxford Stupeditis?
Where is your brain stupid. The euro is strong against ALL currencies, Sterling is weak, because of Brexhit !! I always knew that LEPs ( Little Englander Plonkers) only had one active brain cell but the bucket on your head is restricting oxygen to your singular brain cell. What a Plonker !!



So strong is the €urozone and doing so well they have just had to re-introduce QE again... :lol:

Oh CoCo, you do make me laugh...

I think you'll find the US$ is the safe-haven currency of choice, not the €uro... :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:46 pm

interesting to think that the europeans are doing spread over 2 years with 27 countries as we did for the uk in one week when we qe'd banks to the tune of 500 billion. and look how strong we are now right, so clearly it has not harmed us has it.

you really are an arse and a half boy.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:15 pm

i wonder how much money manchild offered the dup to accept the backstop. oh by the way they aleary promissed to build a bridge there. they say it will cost ony 15 billion i sustect it will be 150 billion but thats another storey.

so at least manchild has stopped saying brexit by the 31st of october do or dai deal or no deal.

now that is very interesting cause first of all the cummings cunning plan was to unite all brexshiteers against remainers by leaving the referendum brexy choice ver ambigues and now manchild has managed to isolate nodeal brexshitters against the rest. so clearly cummings does not know wherether he is coming or going. and of course he has renaged on his promise to thebrexit party of no deal brexit, they wil fight him in the nec=xt ellection which can't be far away now and wallah corbyn in government. what a wonderful thought that is.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:00 pm

miltiades wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:You are referring to Scotland and the SNP. Northern Ireland wants to go with Britain and I think that won’t change for a long time from what I know.

Scotland had its referendum. But it can have another.

Do you see how absurd they are and how stupid the SNP are? Asking on the one hand to leave the Union and join the EU. In other words no independence at all.

The Scots won’t go for it and will vote it down again. They will prefer the Union over the EU. It doesn’t make sense.


Plus they'd have to accept the failing €uro as their currency! :lol:

The ....failing euro ?? Are you naturally stupid or , like Paphitis , you took a course at Oxford Stupeditis?
Where is your brain stupid. The euro is strong against ALL currencies, Sterling is weak, because of Brexhit !! I always knew that LEPs ( Little Englander Plonkers) only had one active brain cell but the bucket on your head is restricting oxygen to your singular brain cell. What a Plonker !!


The ECB has embarked on a program of QE to stimulate its failing economy. Germany is officially in recession.

The Euro isn't strong. It's actually failing.

Britain is in a far more stronger position than Germany and France right now. So what's the difference? Well its out of the Eurozone for a start.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:03 pm

Lordo wrote:i wonder how much money manchild offered the dup to accept the backstop. oh by the way they aleary promissed to build a bridge there. they say it will cost ony 15 billion i sustect it will be 150 billion but thats another storey.

so at least manchild has stopped saying brexit by the 31st of october do or dai deal or no deal.

now that is very interesting cause first of all the cummings cunning plan was to unite all brexshiteers against remainers by leaving the referendum brexy choice ver ambigues and now manchild has managed to isolate nodeal brexshitters against the rest. so clearly cummings does not know wherether he is coming or going. and of course he has renaged on his promise to thebrexit party of no deal brexit, they wil fight him in the nec=xt ellection which can't be far away now and wallah corbyn in government. what a wonderful thought that is.


BoJo was saying Britain will BREXIT on the 31st of October only yesterday and he did that on his Q&A on social media and watched by millions.

Buckle up boy! You are in for a great ride. :D
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:Good luck with that one.

The Northern Irish are hellbent to remain with Britain. There is a lot of sectarian troubles between them and the Catholics.

The entire issue is that they want to remain with Britain but they also don't want to see a hard border.

That issue has already been resolved with checkpoints for fright trucks conducted far away from the crossings.


It has not been resolved ! Ireland said it would try that procedure (checks away from the border) but it is not certain whether it would be effective. There's a risk for them too, because if it won't be effective, it will jeopardize the integrity of the single market, and will most certainly lead to checks of Irish products on the way into France, Germany or Belgium.
The EU on the other hand claimed that all proposals so far are "non operational".

Notice that the original proposal of the EU was for Northern Ireland alone remaining in the EU's single market and customs union, leaving Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) free to strike trade deals. However DUP - a Northern Ireland unionist party that propped up Theresa May's minority Conservative government - objected to this.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ir ... s-44615404
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:14 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Good luck with that one.

The Northern Irish are hellbent to remain with Britain. There is a lot of sectarian troubles between them and the Catholics.

The entire issue is that they want to remain with Britain but they also don't want to see a hard border.

That issue has already been resolved with checkpoints for fright trucks conducted far away from the crossings.


It has not been resolved ! Ireland said it would try that procedure (checks away from the border) but it is not certain whether it would be effective. There's a risk for them too, because if it won't be effective, it will jeopardize the integrity of the single market, and will most certainly lead to checks of Irish products on the way into France, Germany or Belgium.
The EU on the other hand claimed that all proposals so far are "non operational".

Notice that the original proposal of the EU was for Northern Ireland alone remaining in the EU's single market and customs union, leaving Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) free to strike trade deals. However DUP - a Northern Ireland unionist party that propped up Theresa May's minority Conservative government - objected to this.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ir ... s-44615404


What are you talking about it's not going to be effective.

Why wouldn't it be effective?

In addition, that would be a problem for the EU.

Britain will help but the integrity of the Single Market does not sound like a problem for Britain.

Britain just wants out. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

Therefore, EU will need to strive to protect its single market integrity for whatever that means. trucks can be inspected away from the border and as discussed and everyone is happy.
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