Paphitis wrote: I think you have lost the plot. Growth in the EU is 0.9% compared to 2.4% in North America, 2.6% in the Middle east and Africa, and 5.1% in Sub Saharan Africa. It doesn't mention Australia and New Zealand, but they are hovering around the 2.5%. Asia, and central Eurasia would be well over 3%
The Eurozone is dreaming to have 2%. It's never had that since 2007.
Look at the links again.
Follow your own advice Paphitis and look at your own (backdated) links again. I used the latest of the two referring to 2015....
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It's actually worse now.
The Eurozone is lucky to achieve 0.3% growth today.
I did you a favour by giving you old data.
Yes, look at the link. Is the Eurozone the worse yes or no?
And here is some more data for you. It confirms the 10 year average for the Eurozone at 0.4% and 0.7% for the EU till 2017.
Paphitis wrote:More and more countries are looking to protect their culture and way of life.
Cultures evolve. If a culture is so weak it can only survive via laws and isolation and borders and other forced means, that try and keep it in some idealised static state, then it is in trouble anyway and such means will always fail in the medium and long term in any case.
And there you have it people.
No doubt the Cypriot Culture is one of the weak ones and hence should not survive. And I am positive that a strong culture like the Turkish one from a country of 75 million people will only be too happy to take over the Cypriot Culture and replace it.
Paphitis wrote:More and more countries are looking to protect their culture and way of life.
Cultures evolve. If a culture is so weak it can only survive via laws and isolation and borders and other forced means, that try and keep it in some idealised static state, then it is in trouble anyway and such means will always fail in the medium and long term in any case.
And there you have it people.
No doubt the Cypriot Culture is one of the weak ones and hence should not survive. And I am positive that a strong culture like the Turkish one from a country of 75 million people will only be too happy to take over the Cypriot Culture and replace it.
All with the EU's blessing as well.
That's your future Cyprus.
I really am trying my best to avoid unnecessary confrontation and personalisation here but at time Paphitis you really can be a dick head.
Who said anything about what cultures should survive ? Anything about Cypriot culture ? Turkish culture ? My point is trying to 'preserve' a culture is a futile exercise. It is like trying to 'preserve' a river by freezing it. For the record I think Cypriot culture is strong, does not need any 'laws' to 'protect it', and is not threatened by either the existence or membership of the EU. You are the one claiming "more and more countries are looking to protect their culture". There is also imo a strong correlation between politicians who use ideas like 'our culture is under assault, we must vote me in to power to protect it' and charlatan politicians seeking to create false problems to gain power rather than actually making people's lives better - which is much harder.
Paphitis wrote:More and more countries are looking to protect their culture and way of life.
Cultures evolve. If a culture is so weak it can only survive via laws and isolation and borders and other forced means, that try and keep it in some idealised static state, then it is in trouble anyway and such means will always fail in the medium and long term in any case.
And there you have it people.
No doubt the Cypriot Culture is one of the weak ones and hence should not survive. And I am positive that a strong culture like the Turkish one from a country of 75 million people will only be too happy to take over the Cypriot Culture and replace it.
All with the EU's blessing as well.
That's your future Cyprus.
I really am trying my best to avoid unnecessary confrontation and personalisation here but at time Paphitis you really can be a dick head.
Who said anything about what cultures should survive ? Anything about Cypriot culture ? Turkish culture ? My point is trying to 'preserve' a culture is a futile exercise. It is like trying to 'preserve' a river by freezing it. For the record I think Cypriot culture is strong, does not need any 'laws' to 'protect it', and is not threatened by either the existence or membership of the EU. You are the one claiming "more and more countries are looking to protect their culture". There is also imo a strong correlation between politicians who use ideas like 'our culture is under assault, we must vote me in to power to protect it' and charlatan politicians seeking to create false problems to gain power rather than actually making people's lives better - which is much harder.
There ou go again people. You heard it all there again right before you. Preserving culture is futile he states, especially the weak and insignificant ones like the Cypriot Culture.
And who is going to draw that line? China, India, Turkey or George Soros?
It's futile preserving the Cypriot culture because there are so few Cypriots. So start important Black Africans, Muslims, Turks and Mongols to your hearts content Cypriots and speed the process up.
I have now been in Cyprus for just under 2 and a half years. Without a shadow of a doubt I have loved and enjoyed each day, have gotten to know Cypriots, young and old, quite well. Yes they are somewhat different in some respects from the late 50s but so is everyone else in all countries. For starters now everyone uses a mobile phone and draws cash out of a hole in the wall, almost all young men sport a beard, some ....ladies too !! But one aspect that has remained , may long it continue, is the hospitality afforded to all, the friendliness and the sense of respect that even young punks will be polite to an elderly guy. There have been a few occasions where, being my usual self, I politely reprimanded young drivers , noisy ones too, for anti social behaviour Was I to do this in London no doubt I would have been dead by now. The family closeness still exists, just as much as the traditional souvla etc. There are of course loads of foreigners now, they were none in the 50s, so glad that there are so many Brits and Russians here. They have contributed greatly to many areas not least animal welfare and of course aesthetically too, Russian blondes !! We have a wonderfull culture here in Cyprus, ok so we do not always say thank you and sorry but always say kalimera to complete strangers. On the contrary the UK.culture has changed drastically over the last 25 years or so, and not for the better.
miltiades wrote:I have now been in Cyprus for just under 2 and a half years. Without a shadow of a doubt I have loved and enjoyed each day, have gotten to know Cypriots, young and old, quite well. Yes they are somewhat different in some respects from the late 50s but so is everyone else in all countries. For starters now everyone uses a mobile phone and draws cash out of a hole in the wall, almost all young men sport a beard, some ....ladies too !! But one aspect that has remained , may long it continue, is the hospitality afforded to all, the friendliness and the sense of respect that even young punks will be polite to an elderly guy. There have been a few occasions where, being my usual self, I politely reprimanded young drivers , noisy ones too, for anti social behaviour Was I to do this in London no doubt I would have been dead by now. The family closeness still exists, just as much as the traditional souvla etc. There are of course loads of foreigners now, they were none in the 50s, so glad that there are so many Brits and Russians here. They have contributed greatly to many areas not least animal welfare and of course aesthetically too, Russian blondes !! We have a wonderfull culture here in Cyprus, ok so we do not always say thank you and sorry but always say kalimera to complete strangers. On the contrary the UK.culture has changed drastically over the last 25 years or so, and not for the better.
Crime capital of the world, thats London now.
Stop talking out of your bum!
When you look at London, you will see Cyprus future.
The Cypriot culture is on the way out. You won't have any of that in a couple of decades. The Brits, are actually quite nice. Not so the Russians, but they are nowhere near the worse. The worse is when Cyprus becomes part of the Islamic Caliphate.
This is what the EU and the one world Government is all about.
Also, stop being such a cuck sucking bitch. Didn't you get enough blondes from among the Brits and Swedes? Why do you need Russian blondes from the third world? Could it be because they are third world and will suck you off for a taliro!
Vromoshillo sleazey petsoyere!
It's a good think Britain is leaving the EU so that the London crime can be reduced.
miltiades wrote:I have now been in Cyprus for just under 2 and a half years. Without a shadow of a doubt I have loved and enjoyed each day, have gotten to know Cypriots, young and old, quite well. Yes they are somewhat different in some respects from the late 50s but so is everyone else in all countries. For starters now everyone uses a mobile phone and draws cash out of a hole in the wall, almost all young men sport a beard, some ....ladies too !! But one aspect that has remained , may long it continue, is the hospitality afforded to all, the friendliness and the sense of respect that even young punks will be polite to an elderly guy. There have been a few occasions where, being my usual self, I politely reprimanded young drivers , noisy ones too, for anti social behaviour Was I to do this in London no doubt I would have been dead by now. The family closeness still exists, just as much as the traditional souvla etc. There are of course loads of foreigners now, they were none in the 50s, so glad that there are so many Brits and Russians here. They have contributed greatly to many areas not least animal welfare and of course aesthetically too, Russian blondes !! We have a wonderfull culture here in Cyprus, ok so we do not always say thank you and sorry but always say kalimera to complete strangers. On the contrary the UK.culture has changed drastically over the last 25 years or so, and not for the better.
Crime capital of the world, thats London now.
Stop talking out of your bum!
When you look at London, you will see Cyprus future.
The Cypriot culture is on the way out. You won't have any of that in a couple of decades. The Brits, are actually quite nice. Not so the Russians, but they are nowhere near the worse. The worse is when Cyprus becomes part of the Islamic Caliphate.
This is what the EU and the one world Government is all about.
Also, stop being such a cuck sucking bitch. Didn't you get enough blondes from among the Brits and Swedes? Why do you need Russian blondes from the third world? Could it be because they are third world and will suck you off for a taliro!
Vromoshillo sleazey petsoyere!
It's a good think Britain is leaving the EU so that the London crime can be reduced.
Please educate yourself Milti.
I have met many pricks in my life but never one as stupid as you. Your posts are pure unadeltared crap. You are a pretentious prick, telling all how wealthy you are and how much .....tax deductible debt you have. Not forgetting that you are also a pilot, my arse, an expert on every subject including the political scene in the UK, a country that you have never lived in or cast a vote. In short you are a fucking idiot , you lack confidence , Very naive but you did get something right in denouncing Trump as an idiot. As they say it takes one to know one.
Kikapu wrote: It is amazing how some people would love to see the end of the EU, the longest peacetime in Europe, to perhaps the return of fascism and wars. This is what happens when stupid people who have never faced wars personally are first in tempting fate.
It is the UN that has been the peacekeeping force, not the EU...
And don't you think the idea that the whole of Europe is going to be teleported back to the 1930s because they can't buy tomatoes tariff free from each other a bit far fetched...?
I see. You mean the same UN that prevented the break up of Yugoslavia with thousands of deaths in Europe, not to mentions many other conflicts around the world. Is that the same undemocratic UN you are talking about? Isn't funny, that all the once satellite states of Yugoslavia have either already or wants to become an EU member. Is it because the EU provides economic and political stability to the whole of Europe? Surely that can't be!
Racism and fascism is already taking place in the UK with the likes of Boris Johnson, the Tory party and it's supporters, which even the brother of Boris can't take it and left the party. It will only get worse if the UK is completely out of the EU with no oversight of the EU values the UK has enjoyed for the past half a century. I am glad I do not live in the UK.
Yugoslavia was always going to break up.
Nothing the UN, EU or NATO can do about it.
Kikapu, I am astonished you are calling Boris' supporters as being fascist and racist. It's a complete cop out.
It's seems to be flavour of the month now to call people who have some pride in their country as patriots and who wish to maintain their way of life as they know it, as being racist and fascist.
The fascists Kikapu, are not the Brits, or the Hungarians. They are patriots.
The fascists are the EU who treated Greece, Spain, Portugal and Cyprus the way they did with massive austerity and the EU who disrespects the democratic wishes of the British People in the biggest vote held in Britain in living memory.
Racism comes in many different forms, and yes, Boris is a racist along with Farage. They don’t need to wear KKK outfits, but look at their racist drives during the referendum, which were pointed at the Poles, who had legal rights to be in the UK and towards the Turks should they become an EU members. Surely you don’t think Boris is a Democrat, do you? Boris talks about democracy when it suits him but then throws 21 of his MPs out of the Tory party because these MPs used their democratic rights to vote against the Tory Party’s wishes. Was is not the people who had voted these 21 MPs into the Tory party democratically in the first place? What gives Boris the right to disenfranchise those who had voted for these 21 Tory MPs. When Boris’s own brother walked away from Boris and the Tory party, only shows how disgusted he was with Boris and the Tory party to what they stood for.
On the subject of “protecting one’s culture’, just how do you propose the UK will do that by being out of the EU? All advanced growing economies need more workers that their country can produce due to low birth rates. Does it matter if these workers come legally from EU states who have European cultures with freedom of movement or with a point system from around the world which may not have European cultures, but instead totally different ones. Protecting the British culture argument is a totally bullshit argument as it cannot be protected 100%. The EU citizens in the UK are more likely to integrate to British culture far more than those from most other countries who may be coming on point system, or is the point system is just a front to discriminate certain people from different cultures from coming to the UK? That too can be considered to be racist, no?
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Paphitis wrote:There ou go again people. You heard it all there again right before you. Preserving culture is futile he states, especially the weak and insignificant ones like the Cypriot Culture.
Where did I state 'especially the weak and insignificant ones like the Cypriot Culture' ? Did I state that or have you just made that up and then brazenly claimed I stated it ? What I did state was 'For the record I think Cypriot culture is strong,'.
