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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:57 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Brexit means leaving the EU, that is what we all voted for...


How you can claim to know with certainty what everyone one of the 17.2 million who voted believed that leave could only mean to them be exactly the same as your own personal opinion and can not be nothing else, in the face of people who voted leave actually saying directly and up front that when they voted leave it was not with the same expectations as you, without any apparent shame or embarrassment is quite an achievement. Can you really see no degree or pure 'arrogance' in your insistence that it has to be an undeniable fact that all 17.2 million consider leaving to mean only what you personally state leaving to mean ? Can you really see no 'con incidence' that such a view if accepted means you personally get your maximal desires and wants in terms of how much we leave or do not leave ?

Once we have finally left whilst still remaining in some for of relationship with the EU that is less than we have today but more than Canada or India has, i look forward to seeing your reaction then :wink:
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Re: what next?

Postby erolz66 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:59 pm

cyprusgrump wrote: Everything else you posted and have ever posted is puerile nonsense...


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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:11 pm

erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Brexit means leaving the EU, that is what we all voted for...


How you can claim to know with certainty what everyone one of the 17.2 million who voted believed that leave could only mean to them be exactly the same as your own personal opinion and can not be nothing else, in the face of people who voted leave actually saying directly and up front that when they voted leave it was not with the same expectations as you, without any apparent shame or embarrassment is quite an achievement. Can you really see no degree or pure 'arrogance' in your insistence that it has to be an undeniable fact that all 17.2 million consider leaving to mean only what you personally state leaving to mean ? Can you really see no 'con incidence' that such a view if accepted means you personally get your maximal desires and wants in terms of how much we leave or do not leave ?

Once we have finally left whilst still remaining in some for of relationship with the EU that is less than we have today but more than Canada or India has, i look forward to seeing your reaction then :wink:


You are completely unable to appreciate the meaning of 'binary' aren't you...? :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:17 pm

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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:22 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Brexit means leaving the EU, that is what we all voted for...


How you can claim to know with certainty what everyone one of the 17.2 million who voted believed that leave could only mean to them be exactly the same as your own personal opinion and can not be nothing else, in the face of people who voted leave actually saying directly and up front that when they voted leave it was not with the same expectations as you, without any apparent shame or embarrassment is quite an achievement. Can you really see no degree or pure 'arrogance' in your insistence that it has to be an undeniable fact that all 17.2 million consider leaving to mean only what you personally state leaving to mean ? Can you really see no 'con incidence' that such a view if accepted means you personally get your maximal desires and wants in terms of how much we leave or do not leave ?

Once we have finally left whilst still remaining in some for of relationship with the EU that is less than we have today but more than Canada or India has, i look forward to seeing your reaction then :wink:


You are completely unable to appreciate the meaning of 'binary' aren't you...? :roll:

where does it say no-deal. there are 6 ways of leaving
1. No-deal
2. norway deal
3. norway + deal
4. canada deal
5. canada + deal
6. canada ++ deal

for it to be acceptable it had to select a deal. of course it was left ambigous deliberately but it will not fool anybody accept some fools here.

take your pick
which one?
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:34 pm

Lordo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Brexit means leaving the EU, that is what we all voted for...


How you can claim to know with certainty what everyone one of the 17.2 million who voted believed that leave could only mean to them be exactly the same as your own personal opinion and can not be nothing else, in the face of people who voted leave actually saying directly and up front that when they voted leave it was not with the same expectations as you, without any apparent shame or embarrassment is quite an achievement. Can you really see no degree or pure 'arrogance' in your insistence that it has to be an undeniable fact that all 17.2 million consider leaving to mean only what you personally state leaving to mean ? Can you really see no 'con incidence' that such a view if accepted means you personally get your maximal desires and wants in terms of how much we leave or do not leave ?

Once we have finally left whilst still remaining in some for of relationship with the EU that is less than we have today but more than Canada or India has, i look forward to seeing your reaction then :wink:


You are completely unable to appreciate the meaning of 'binary' aren't you...? :roll:

where does it say no-deal. there are 6 ways of leaving
1. No-deal
2. norway deal
3. norway + deal
4. canada deal
5. canada + deal
6. canada ++ deal

for it to be acceptable it had to select a deal. of course it was left ambigous deliberately but it will not fool anybody accept some fools here.

take your pick
which one?



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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:37 pm

Here is music to my ears.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/public-should-have-final-say-on-eu-not-mps-new-poll-shows-a4253276.html

More than twice as many people say the public rather than MPs should decide whether Britain quits the EU if Boris Johnson fails to get a new Brexit deal, according to a poll.

The YouGov survey showed 52 per cent believe this final decision should be made in another referendum, compared with 23 per cent who think it should be taken by MPs in Parliament, with 25 per cent saying “don’t know”.

If the Prime Minister does strike a new Brexit agreement with the EU, 47 per cent of people still favour the final decision between leaving on the agreed terms or staying being left to the public in another vote rather than to MPs, 29 per cent. Offered the choice over which is the better way of solving Brexit, 40 per cent said a new referendum and 25 per cent a general election, according to the poll for the People’s Vote campaign.

With more MPs also giving their support for a second referendum, Peter Kellner, ex-president of YouGov, said: “It is clear that the public mood is hardening in favour of a People’s Vote to decide whether Brexit should go ahead.

i can feel a song coming along.

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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:54 pm

even nige is not saying no deal, he want's a clean break. what does that mean when he refuses to use the word no-deal even now, never mind in 2016.
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Lordo wrote:even nige is not saying no deal, he want's a clean break. what does that mean when he refuses to use the word no-deal even now, never mind in 2016.


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