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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:How can anyone get prepared when they don't even know what the tariffs will be.
Importers will just roll the cost on the consumer, and exporters will yield to pressure for lower prices.
That's how the markets work.


there will be no Tariffs.

That is just scare mongering.

Tariffs are not in the EU's or Germany's interest. The EU already confirmed this and even stated that trade will likely continue under Article 24 with zero Tariffs,

The German car industry will nearly collapse.

"
there will be no Tariffs."
Says General Plonker !!
The German car industry such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW will go out of ..business !! Can you imagine a world without Mercedes and BMW ?
German ingenuity is by far the most advanced in the world, thats why Germany is TOP DOG in the EU. A fact resented by little Englanders and idiots such as you !!
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:21 pm

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And for some reason Remoaners thing staying in the EU and paying so much more for food and other goods is a good thing...? :lol:

How terrible it would be to get cheap, tariff free food from other countries instead of protecting inefficient EU farmers... :roll:


Are you trying to say "How terrible it would be to get cheap(?), NON tariff free food from other countries instead of protecting inefficient UK farmers... "

why don't you ask your own Gvnt?? :mrgreen:

a mixture of tariffs and quotas on beef, lamb, pork, poultry and some dairy to support farmers and producers who have historically been protected through high EU tariffs


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/temp ... -published



No, read it again... Perhaps run your finger across each word so you don't get confused...?

I'm for cheaper food - tariff free - from wherever it can be produced... Why should the general public be forced to pay more for food....?

Remove all subsidies like NZ did.

How many farmers are there in the UK, 50,000?

65,000,000 shouldn't be disadvantaged to protect 50,000 farmers...

Perhaps you are happy to pay more for food to enrich some wealthy landowners...?
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:24 pm

The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:28 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:

And for some reason Remoaners thing staying in the EU and paying so much more for food and other goods is a good thing...? :lol:

How terrible it would be to get cheap, tariff free food from other countries instead of protecting inefficient EU farmers... :roll:


Are you trying to say "How terrible it would be to get cheap(?), NON tariff free food from other countries instead of protecting inefficient UK farmers... "

why don't you ask your own Gvnt?? :mrgreen:

a mixture of tariffs and quotas on beef, lamb, pork, poultry and some dairy to support farmers and producers who have historically been protected through high EU tariffs


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/temp ... -published



No, read it again... Perhaps run your finger across each word so you don't get confused...?

I'm for cheaper food - tariff free - from wherever it can be produced... Why should the general public be forced to pay more for food....?

Remove all subsidies like NZ did.

How many farmers are there in the UK, 50,000?

65,000,000 shouldn't be disadvantaged to protect 50,000 farmers...

Perhaps you are happy to pay more for food to enrich some wealthy landowners...?


It's clear that you don't know what you are talking about.
Your own wishes are irrelevant.
Your own Government has already decided that after a no deal brexit it will impose tariffs on imported food

Your Govnt is not stupid.I have explained the reasons in the post above.
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:33 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.


That is mental... :roll:

Why not, explain...

And remember, that the vast amount of land involved could be used for other (possibly more productive) purposes...

Why are we paying (via CAP) rich landowners subsidies because they are rich and own land? CAP is paid on how much land you own...

If you can buy food produced abroad for less than you can produce at home (and pay subsidies to rich land owners) then it makes sense to do so...
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:43 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.


That is mental... :roll:

Why not, explain...

And remember, that the vast amount of land involved could be used for other (possibly more productive) purposes...

Why are we paying (via CAP) rich landowners subsidies because they are rich and own land? CAP is paid on how much land you own...

If you can buy food produced abroad for less than you can produce at home (and pay subsidies to rich land owners) then it makes sense to do so...


Just from where do you expect all this cheap food to come from at the expense of putting all the farmers out of business in the UK? :roll:
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:07 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.


That is mental... :roll:

Why not, explain...

And remember, that the vast amount of land involved could be used for other (possibly more productive) purposes...

Why are we paying (via CAP) rich landowners subsidies because they are rich and own land? CAP is paid on how much land you own...

If you can buy food produced abroad for less than you can produce at home (and pay subsidies to rich land owners) then it makes sense to do so...


Just from where do you expect all this cheap food to come from at the expense of putting all the farmers out of business in the UK? :roll:



There are 195 countries in the world... Not 28 as Remoaners would have us believe... :wink:

There is a pretty good chance that some of them can produce stuff the UK needs cheaper than the UK can produce it...

...and if they can't then UK farmers are in an excellent position to produce it themselves and charge a premium for it.

Simples... :lol:

Explain why it makes more sense to grow food in the UK if we can get it cheaper from abroad...? c :?
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:19 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.


That is mental... :roll:

Why not, explain...

And remember, that the vast amount of land involved could be used for other (possibly more productive) purposes...

Why are we paying (via CAP) rich landowners subsidies because they are rich and own land? CAP is paid on how much land you own...

If you can buy food produced abroad for less than you can produce at home (and pay subsidies to rich land owners) then it makes sense to do so...


Just from where do you expect all this cheap food to come from at the expense of putting all the farmers out of business in the UK? :roll:



There are 195 countries in the world... Not 28 as Remoaners would have us believe... :wink:

There is a pretty good chance that some of them can produce stuff the UK needs cheaper than the UK can produce it...

...and if they can't then UK farmers are in an excellent position to produce it themselves and charge a premium for it.

Simples... :lol:

Explain why it makes more sense to grow food in the UK if we can get it cheaper from abroad...? c :?


I think you have missed my point. Perhaps I didn't make it obvious enough...sorry.

What I meant was, where are you going to get cheap food from at the same quality as produced in the UK or the EU, which the British people are accustomed to , or does the UK intends to buy substandard products in the future from the other countries just because it's cheap?

What's for dinner tonight dear?

Errr, we are having "Soylent Green" again!

Hmmm, YUMMY!
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The answer is very simple: Because food just like agriculture/mining/hydrocarbons is primary wealth that recirculates in the economy 19(?) times and is what actually can make a Country rich.
The UK can't let competitive food enter tariff free for this very simple reason.


That is mental... :roll:

Why not, explain...

And remember, that the vast amount of land involved could be used for other (possibly more productive) purposes...

Why are we paying (via CAP) rich landowners subsidies because they are rich and own land? CAP is paid on how much land you own...

If you can buy food produced abroad for less than you can produce at home (and pay subsidies to rich land owners) then it makes sense to do so...


Just from where do you expect all this cheap food to come from at the expense of putting all the farmers out of business in the UK? :roll:



There are 195 countries in the world... Not 28 as Remoaners would have us believe... :wink:

There is a pretty good chance that some of them can produce stuff the UK needs cheaper than the UK can produce it...

...and if they can't then UK farmers are in an excellent position to produce it themselves and charge a premium for it.

Simples... :lol:

Explain why it makes more sense to grow food in the UK if we can get it cheaper from abroad...? c :?


I think you have missed my point. Perhaps I didn't make it obvious enough...sorry.

What I meant was, where are you going to get cheap food from at the same quality as produced in the UK or the EU, which the British people are accustomed to , or does the UK intends to buy substandard products in the future from the other countries just because it's cheap?

What's for dinner tonight dear?

Errr, we are having "Soylent Green" again!

Hmmm, YUMMY!



Do you mean pies loaded with horse meat? :shock:

So much for EU standards and quality control eh...? :roll:

I'd rather buy cheap beef from NZ than 'horsebeef' from the EU... And pay £13B a year for the 'privalidge'... :lol:

Oh BTW, did you see that EU slimming drug that killed hundreds...? :shock:
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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:22 pm

My high level and extremely reliable source has informed me that the Clown has today signed a trade agreement with Afghanistan.
As from November 1st all of our pork joints, Chops ...Smoky bacon etc will be wholly imported from Afganistan. It will of course be ...halal !!
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