Londonrake wrote:Lordo wrote:Londonrake wrote:erolz66 wrote:Londonrake wrote:I think you would find that there a significant number of Labour voters who opted for Leave in the EU referendum (148 of their constituencies actually) that wouldn't balk at using the word.
Stating that there are significant numbers of traditional Labour supporters who feel betrayed by Corbyn over his position on Brexit is stating the 'bleeding obvious'. It is also, as is often your way, to avoid the point being made entirely. I doubt there are many Labour supporters who will believe the Tory lies that Corbyn has betrayed the the UK in the Why Philby did and has sold secrets to communist regimes.
Just as I suspect there are significant numbers of people across the UK and across the political spectrum who will have significant degrees of sympathy for Neil's assertion that 'surely the real scandal is the outright lies and disinformation that the Tories are spreading'.
The people of the UK voted to leave the EU. Corbyn campaigned on a manifesto commitment of honouring that. He reneged, in what I regard as a very unprincipled way. I don’t think calling that a betrayal is hyperbole.
Many - not least Lordo of course - seek to rewrite Corbyn’s near 4 decades of being a firebrand, far left “rebel” now he’s amazingly found himself a “contender”. Much of what he’s done in the past speaks for itself. I regard him as a betrayer in that respect. Frankly, the idea that the security of the UK would rest on Corbyn, Abbott and Thornbury is a prospect that fills me with both horror and the desire to ROFLMAO. You couldn’t make it up.
this is the whole argument. i cannot expres this in any way. the problem is thet 17.4 million pibol voted to leave the eu and kants like you claim that all 17.4 milion voted for may or boris leave plan. that is just plain fakin stupid. there is 4 million labour supporters who voted on soft brexit and probably another few million tories too.
why the fak would they be betrayed when corbyn is offering them to make a deal where our rights and jobs are portected and having got the deal than ask them to vote for it.
why are you two so faking stupid. i don't consider bafidi being stupid as to call him stupid would be an insult to all stupid people.
If you expect serious discussions on weighty matters you really need to curb your compulsion for foul-mouthed, juvenile ranting.......................boy.
Sorry just to be clear who are you talking to here ? Me or Lordo. We are both in the quoted section you reposted. Or are you also of the view that Lordo is simply my sock puppet alter ego ? You initially appeared 'sceptical' of the theory, then seemed to change your mind and support and encourage it. So it is hard to know what your opinion is really. I would try asking directly 'do you believe that Lordo is my sock puppet alter ego or not' or in my terms to what degree do you believe this but experience has shown that getting a straight answer from you on such simple questions is often an futile endeavour.
