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[Londonrake]

Just who is the criminal here?

Keep it up Boris, because the EU is going to fuck you (UK) royally with your stupid games when it comes to any withdrawal negotiations should Brexit happen.

Seems desperate to regard it as “criminal”. Everyone’s so keen to get Johnson behind bars.

The withdrawal negotiations are complete, surely? Next step are trade talks, with an end of 2020 deadline. Well, at the moment.

[Paphitis]

Corbynov promises to nationalize Broadband and offer every household and every business free broadband...

Roll up roll up....for your free money and internet....

Which isn't free at all because it will cost the taxpayer 100 Billion.

It’s a good way to attract more young people to vote since younger generations use the internet more than older generations.

How did you arrive at £100 Billion cost to tax payers?

Gosh! In order to encourage people to vote, we should give everyone free internet?

I got it from one of the videos I posted.

The Broadband networks needs to be maintained and continuously upgraded as vital infrastructure. It costs billions to just maintain it and every few years it needs upgrading to fibre optic in order to increase speed in order to support more multimedia as our demand of bandwidth increases because of it.

So we give everyone free broadband in order to encourage young ones to vote. OK, We also provide free health (which I actually agree with), plus free education, free salary (Corbynov has promised this as part of his manifesto), free transport and so on and so on...

Where does it end and who is going to pay for all this? It isn’t actually free.

[Paphitis]

:lol:

BORIS refuses to appoint an EU Commissioner! Take that EU criminals!

EU threatens to take UK to court! And who cares about that?

Friggin criminals!

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I’m sorry, didn’t Boris ask for the Brexit extension from the EU, which means that the UK is still in the EU, and as an EU member, it is required by Boris to appoint a Commissioner.

Just who is the criminal here?

Keep it up Boris, because the EU is going to fuck you (UK) royally with your stupid games when it comes to any withdrawal negotiations should Brexit happen.

Oh Gosh Kikapu, you know very well than Boris was forced by a recalcitrant rogue Parliament and EU interference.

Boris didn’t want to ask for an extension and now with the impending Boris majority Government it’s going to be time for revenge. There is no Ben act that can force Boris to appoint a Commissioner. He doesn’t have to and can literally give the EU the middle finger.

But eventually, the UK will want a FTD so I guess it could’ve be self defeating but do not expect any friendship from the UK Government.

The criminals are those in the EU who have undermined UK democracy and interfered in UK politics. The EU have again been exposed for what they are.

[miltiades]

:lol:

BORIS refuses to appoint an EU Commissioner! Take that EU criminals!

EU threatens to take UK to court! And who cares about that?

Friggin criminals!

]

I’m sorry, didn’t Boris ask for the Brexit extension from the EU, which means that the UK is still in the EU, and as an EU member, it is required by Boris to appoint a Commissioner.

Just who is the criminal here?

Keep it up Boris, because the EU is going to fuck you (UK) royally with your stupid games when it comes to any withdrawal negotiations should Brexit happen.

Oh Gosh Kikapu, you know very well than Boris was forced by a recalcitrant rogue Parliament and EU interference.

Boris didn’t want to ask for an extension and now with the impending Boris majority Government it’s going to be time for revenge. There is no Ben act that can force Boris to appoint a Commissioner. He doesn’t have to and can literally give the EU the middle finger.

But eventually, the UK will want a FTD so I guess it could’ve be self defeating but do not expect any friendship from the UK Government.

The criminals are those in the EU who have undermined UK democracy and interfered in UK politics. The EU have again been exposed for what they are.

What an idiot you are !! Stop using " WE" when referring to the UK . You are not a British citizen.

[Paphitis]

:lol:

BORIS refuses to appoint an EU Commissioner! Take that EU criminals!

EU threatens to take UK to court! And who cares about that?

Friggin criminals!

]

I’m sorry, didn’t Boris ask for the Brexit extension from the EU, which means that the UK is still in the EU, and as an EU member, it is required by Boris to appoint a Commissioner.

Just who is the criminal here?

Keep it up Boris, because the EU is going to fuck you (UK) royally with your stupid games when it comes to any withdrawal negotiations should Brexit happen.

Oh Gosh Kikapu, you know very well than Boris was forced by a recalcitrant rogue Parliament and EU interference.

Boris didn’t want to ask for an extension and now with the impending Boris majority Government it’s going to be time for revenge. There is no Ben act that can force Boris to appoint a Commissioner. He doesn’t have to and can literally give the EU the middle finger.

But eventually, the UK will want a FTD so I guess it could’ve be self defeating but do not expect any friendship from the UK Government.

The criminals are those in the EU who have undermined UK democracy and interfered in UK politics. The EU have again been exposed for what they are.

What an idiot you are !! Stop using " WE" when referring to the UK . You are not a British citizen.

Are you drunk today petsoyero? It’s a bit early to be on the vino. At least in my case I am currently sitting in my favourite spot on an RDO having some Souvla.

If you were to be a good boy, I could send you some real quality Australian Reds but I am afraid you’re not worthy of such indulgence. You wouldn’t believe what red I am drinking right now!

Where did I say we?

[miltiades]

Not overtly keen on Austalian wines, they are ok but nowhere as good as my favourite Clarets , French of course. Cheers !!

[Paphitis]

Not overtly keen on Austalian wines, they are ok but nowhere as good as my favourite Clarets , French of course. Cheers !!

That’s because you don’t have a clue about wines.

Australian wines are the best in the world.

You have no idea about the Germans and the Barossa Valley, McClaren Vale, Clare Valley and Margaret River.

To say they are no where near as good is a major stuff up on your part because they are every bit as near as good if not a whole lot better. Lots of connoisseurs consider the Aussie wines to be better than the French and by a fair amount too.

I’m no wine expert but I have experienced the odd fine drop of Aussie wines and do visit the best wineries on the face of this earth and have also been to France and let me tell you that the Aussie wines are very definitely on the top shelf in anyone’s language.

[Londonrake]

It would be a waste giving Milti good wine. He would just drink it.

[cyprusgrump]

Tim Worstall has written a sensible piece on Labour's Loony Broadband plans...

LABOUR'S BROADBAND PLANS - THERE'S A REASON WE DON'T DO TAX HYPOTHECATION

It can be somewhat depressing to continue to make the same point for a decade and more but that’s where we find ourselves with this latest little plan from the Labour Party. Hypothecation of tax revenue is simply a bad idea. But they’re trying it again:

A Labour government would nationalise Britain’s broadband network and offer free internet access to every household and business in the country, the party will say today.

That idea contains its own foolishness of course. We are not, to put this mildly, in a state of technological certainty over broadband. It’s still a developing technology that is. We’d rather like to have market competition therefore, the one thing that any nationalisation and free provision is going to kill stone dead.

We do all, after all, recall how wondrous the GPO was at extending coverage and advancing technology back in those pre-privatisation days?

But more than that there’s this:

Mr McDonnell told The Times that a new Labour government would make a priority of establishing the new state-owned entity, British Broadband.

The running costs, estimated at £230 million a year, would be funded from a new tax on multinational companies. They would be charged a percentage of their profits, according to a calculation of what proportion of the assets, staff and turnover was located in Britain, he said.

Hypothecation is the idea that this tax, raised on this activity over here, will be spent upon this, different and unrelated, activity over there. It’s an idea that is more than just foolish. For what is the connection between the profits of companies and the costs of broadband?

Say we have a horrible recession - apply your own odds of that with McDonnell in office - and thus corporate profits drop substantially. Does that mean we wish to spend less on broadband? Say that the glory days of the 1970s return and the profits made in the economy fall below even the costs of depreciation, as they did. Does that mean we wish to spend nothing on broadband?

Equally, say that the Indian subsidiary of a company that also trades in the UK - this tax is to be on global profits allocated proportionately to Britain - profits from that swiftly growing economy. Why does this mean that we in Britain should righteously put more of our own GDP into building broadband?

Which is the problem with hypothecation. Whatever the formula used there simply is no connection, whatsoever, between the amount that can or should be raised in tax over here and what should, or could, be spent on this other activity over there. Which is why it has been, for centuries now, a basic rule of fiscal policy that we don’t do hypothecation of taxes. We don’t even reserve national insurance to pay for the welfare state it is meant to fund.

Yes, of course the nationalisation of broadband is a bad idea, it’s election season. But the method of paying for it is even worse.

[Lordo]

:lol:

BORIS refuses to appoint an EU Commissioner! Take that EU criminals!

EU threatens to take UK to court! And who cares about that?

Friggin criminals!

]

I’m sorry, didn’t Boris ask for the Brexit extension from the EU, which means that the UK is still in the EU, and as an EU member, it is required by Boris to appoint a Commissioner.

Just who is the criminal here?

Keep it up Boris, because the EU is going to fuck you (UK) royally with your stupid games when it comes to any withdrawal negotiations should Brexit happen.

eu is not interested and has no intention of fucking anybody up. this is simply not true. eu has rules andif you want free trade with the eu you have to adhere to the rules otherwise no free trade. free trade means no controls and no tariffs and of course no extensive forms to fill in. without freedom of movement and that does not mean people in the eu come and go as they please, we will not have customs union or fta. this idea that people are free to come over as they please and claim here is bullshit. so the fee for the fta and cu is about 0.75billion a month. a fee well worth it when you consider that unwto just formailty forms will cost more than 1 billion a month.

but of course wto also means we have to adhere to eu regulations otherwise we will not be able to trade with them in any way. assuming that we acept their rules and regulations and do trade with them the monthly tariff we have to charge about 2.5 billion for all our exports and we will have to pay 3 billion for everything we import from them.

and of course there is no way b'stard will agree to anything like the above and hence we will not be able to trade with them. but of course although we are members of the wto we have no schedules negotiated with them, we use the eu schedules to trade with the rest of the world so even that will stop til lthe new schedules can be negotiated. and of course they may take more than a decade.

so the only other alternative is wto rules