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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:00 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:So, what next?
Next is sending Brexit Minister to the superpower of donkeys called Cyprus to tell Anastasiades they will exit WITH a DEAL!
Just because Cyprus the superpower of donkeys is in the EU :o :shock:

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/09/17/uks- ... wednesday/

NB. Of course the message was clear:1/3rd of your tourists are from the UK. !/3rd of your University students are in the UK. 300K of your Charlies live in the UK. And we also have the Soverign British bases . So Donkeys support us against the EU.

Nobody told this guy that donkeys on this island can't even support themselves?? :lol: :lol:


I think the Brits will be holding discussions with all 27 members.

They know Cyprus has no say virtually and I think Boris is happy with no deal if necessary. Cyprus does however have a veto and that is a very convenient escape get out of jail free card if Cyprus exercised that veto. Unlikely but it’s worth a try. I think Boris would thank Cyprus if it exercised its veto powers.

I think Britain’s strategy is paying off in fact because even if there is a no deal I do not believe any of the 27 want this to be permanently the case. We know that because the Germans have shown their cards and have stated that negotiations must continue even after a No deal Brexit. For the first time, the Germans have shown signs of compromise.


It is not a compromise by the Germans as there always going to be further negotiations with a deal or without a deal between the EU and UK. The difference is, what happens immediately after a no deal Brexit......


20% GDP per Capita drop in the first year.


Nonsense!

Greece had a 20% drop in GDP. In fact it had a bigger drop in GDP. Cyprus also had a bigger drop in GDP in the EU.

Britain is neither Greece or Cyprus. Facts are facts. They are different to say the least. You know, the Anglo race responsible for Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. They were an actual empire. Perhaps the biggest empire in human history.
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Re: what next?

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:04 pm

this is very interesting submission. the law will change about prorogation after this.
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:08 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:20% GDP per Capita drop in the first year.


CG. You need to add that one to your collection.

These boys are trying to out-hype each other.

Any day now you’ll be getting posts like the UN contingency plan to parachute food and medicine into Peckham, :lol: :lol: :lol:


It is a calculated opinion and I posted links on data earlier.
Show me your data proving the opposite.
All that's left is wait and see who will be closer to reality.

In Cyprus we had a GDP drop of nearly 40% in 2013 yet we survived and the UN did not need to parachute us medicine or food.
You will survive too. All you need to do is just count your pension in Euros after a ND Brexit. 8)


Sorry - but you’re making it up as you go along. Please...............don’t stop though! :wink: :D

KPMG think there would be a recession and drop of 1.5% in GDP during the first year. You will find that in the Guardian though, so need to hold your nose.

Why don’t you post some of the apocalyptic stuff Cameron/Osborne/the Treasury/big business/elements of the media and cultural “elite” warned us “Brexshitters”of as an immediate consequence should we vote to leave? You know, just to be fair, “Democrat” :wink:
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:09 pm

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What will happen Kikapu is that sanity will always prevail because the Germans don’t want to sink further into recession and kiss their car industry good bye and the UK would like to continue to trade with EU partners and also cooperate with them as a close ally at a security level.

So what will happen is that negotiations will continue and in the meantime trade will continue under WTO Article 24.

That is what will happen.

The people of Britain have voted. The EU need to respect the referendum outcome. It is fundamental to democracy. If the EU respect democracy then they will move on.


I wouldn't call a 0.1% drop in German economy a recession. It's more of a stabilizing indicator.


Yes I call that a recession alright that can only deepen if its biggest EU trade partner is unable to trade under current free trade terms.

It won’t be dire as I am no scare merchant but 0.1% can easily turn into minus 2% with 10s of thousands of jobs down the gurgler. A German MEP said that this will occur in the event of aNo Deal Brexit when Germany condemned the Luxembourg debacle saying that the EU must ensure negotiations continue even after a no deal Brexit.

It’s a double edge sword.

As for Britain, the people have already placed their independence ahead of money. So the cost is acceptable when you have your priorities set right - Queen and Country. Patriotism! Family ahead of money at all times.

There are always casualties in the fight for freedom. In the old days that price was hundreds of thousands of troops. Today it is a few Beasley Billions.
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Re: what next?

Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:21 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:So, what next?
Next is sending Brexit Minister to the superpower of donkeys called Cyprus to tell Anastasiades they will exit WITH a DEAL!
Just because Cyprus the superpower of donkeys is in the EU :o :shock:

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/09/17/uks- ... wednesday/

NB. Of course the message was clear:1/3rd of your tourists are from the UK. !/3rd of your University students are in the UK. 300K of your Charlies live in the UK. And we also have the Soverign British bases . So Donkeys support us against the EU.

Nobody told this guy that donkeys on this island can't even support themselves?? :lol: :lol:


I think the Brits will be holding discussions with all 27 members.

They know Cyprus has no say virtually and I think Boris is happy with no deal if necessary. Cyprus does however have a veto and that is a very convenient escape get out of jail free card if Cyprus exercised that veto. Unlikely but it’s worth a try. I think Boris would thank Cyprus if it exercised its veto powers.

I think Britain’s strategy is paying off in fact because even if there is a no deal I do not believe any of the 27 want this to be permanently the case. We know that because the Germans have shown their cards and have stated that negotiations must continue even after a No deal Brexit. For the first time, the Germans have shown signs of compromise.


It is not a compromise by the Germans as there always going to be further negotiations with a deal or without a deal between the EU and UK. The difference is, what happens immediately after a no deal Brexit......


What will happen Kikapu is that sanity will always prevail because the Germans don’t want to sink further into recession and kiss their car industry good bye and the UK would like to continue to trade with EU partners and also cooperate with them as a close ally at a security level.

So what will happen is that negotiations will continue and in the meantime trade will continue under WTO Article 24.

That is what will happen.

The people of Britain have voted. The EU need to respect the referendum outcome. It is fundamental to democracy. If the EU respect democracy then they will move on.

The EU is not trying to stop the UK from leaving. Where did you get that from? It is the other half of the Brits who are trying to stop the UK from leaving the EU, or at least not leave without a deal.
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:22 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Nonsense!

Greece had a 20% drop in GDP. In fact it had a bigger drop in GDP. Cyprus also had a bigger drop in GDP in the EU.

Britain is neither Greece or Cyprus. Facts are facts. They are different to say the least. You know, the Anglo race responsible for Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. They were an actual empire. Perhaps the biggest empire in human history.


Actually both Cyprus and Greece had a steady rise of GDP from the time the entered the EU similar to that of Malta.
Our sudden drop was NOT because of the EU, but because of our own mistakes. Look at Malta who did no mistakes though. Rising and rising... :wink:
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explo ... l=en&dl=en

As for the British Empire, that's an old glory. The Anglo race is also a myth. Fyi the official language in the US before the independence was actually German, not English, whereas the majority of "English" settlers there were actually Irish. As for Canada remind me again of the relation between their Anglo race and French race?
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:41 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:20% GDP per Capita drop in the first year.


CG. You need to add that one to your collection.

These boys are trying to out-hype each other.

Any day now you’ll be getting posts like the UN contingency plan to parachute food and medicine into Peckham, :lol: :lol: :lol:


It is a calculated opinion and I posted links on data earlier.
Show me your data proving the opposite.
All that's left is wait and see who will be closer to reality.

In Cyprus we had a GDP drop of nearly 40% in 2013 yet we survived and the UN did not need to parachute us medicine or food.
You will survive too. All you need to do is just count your pension in Euros after a ND Brexit. 8)


Sorry - but you’re making it up as you go along. Please...............don’t stop though! :wink: :D

KPMG think there would be a recession and drop of 1.5% in GDP during the first year. You will find that in the Guardian though, so need to hold your nose.

Why don’t you post some of the apocalyptic stuff Cameron/Osborne/the Treasury/big business/elements of the media and cultural “elite” warned us “Brexshitters”of as an immediate consequence should we vote to leave? You know, just to be fair, “Democrat” :wink:


Yeah right.. the only difference is that KPMG's study was based on T. May's DEAL
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Re: what next?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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What will happen Kikapu is that sanity will always prevail because the Germans don’t want to sink further into recession and kiss their car industry good bye and the UK would like to continue to trade with EU partners and also cooperate with them as a close ally at a security level.

So what will happen is that negotiations will continue and in the meantime trade will continue under WTO Article 24.

That is what will happen.

The people of Britain have voted. The EU need to respect the referendum outcome. It is fundamental to democracy. If the EU respect democracy then they will move on.


I wouldn't call a 0.1% drop in German economy a recession. It's more of a stabilizing indicator.


Yes I call that a recession alright that can only deepen if its biggest EU trade partner is unable to trade under current free trade terms.

It won’t be dire as I am no scare merchant but 0.1% can easily turn into minus 2% with 10s of thousands of jobs down the gurgler. A German MEP said that this will occur in the event of aNo Deal Brexit when Germany condemned the Luxembourg debacle saying that the EU must ensure negotiations continue even after a no deal Brexit.

It’s a double edge sword.

As for Britain, the people have already placed their independence ahead of money. So the cost is acceptable when you have your priorities set right - Queen and Country. Patriotism! Family ahead of money at all times.

There are always casualties in the fight for freedom. In the old days that price was hundreds of thousands of troops. Today it is a few Beasley Billions.


OK let's take it for granted that Germany is going to have a 2% recession because of "losing" it's British market (which amounts to only 6.6% of their exports). How much recession would the UK have from "losing" it's EU market amounting to 56% of it's total exports? :lol: :lol: :lol: :o :o

Can you work out this simple Math problem Paphitis :wink:
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Re: what next?

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Yeah right.. the only difference is that KPMG's study was based on T. May's DEAL


No, it’s not, and it isn’t a “study”. :wink:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... on-in-2020

Do bear in mind, nobody’s impartial in these matters. Moreover, these are “predictions” (aka guesses). The reality is, absolutely nobody can see how events will unfold. It would be unknown territory. Furthermore, KPMG are a company with a vested interest in the UK staying in the EU. You’ll accept what they say - because you want to. I’m a bit more cynical. :wink:

Also, Cyprus’s GDP didn’t drop 40% in 2013 :lol: :lol: :lol: You’re just plucking these figures out of thin air. Like I said, making it up as you go along. :eyecrazy:
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:So, what next?
Next is sending Brexit Minister to the superpower of donkeys called Cyprus to tell Anastasiades they will exit WITH a DEAL!
Just because Cyprus the superpower of donkeys is in the EU :o :shock:

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/09/17/uks- ... wednesday/

NB. Of course the message was clear:1/3rd of your tourists are from the UK. !/3rd of your University students are in the UK. 300K of your Charlies live in the UK. And we also have the Soverign British bases . So Donkeys support us against the EU.

Nobody told this guy that donkeys on this island can't even support themselves?? :lol: :lol:


I think the Brits will be holding discussions with all 27 members.

They know Cyprus has no say virtually and I think Boris is happy with no deal if necessary. Cyprus does however have a veto and that is a very convenient escape get out of jail free card if Cyprus exercised that veto. Unlikely but it’s worth a try. I think Boris would thank Cyprus if it exercised its veto powers.

I think Britain’s strategy is paying off in fact because even if there is a no deal I do not believe any of the 27 want this to be permanently the case. We know that because the Germans have shown their cards and have stated that negotiations must continue even after a No deal Brexit. For the first time, the Germans have shown signs of compromise.


It is not a compromise by the Germans as there always going to be further negotiations with a deal or without a deal between the EU and UK. The difference is, what happens immediately after a no deal Brexit......


What will happen Kikapu is that sanity will always prevail because the Germans don’t want to sink further into recession and kiss their car industry good bye and the UK would like to continue to trade with EU partners and also cooperate with them as a close ally at a security level.

So what will happen is that negotiations will continue and in the meantime trade will continue under WTO Article 24.

That is what will happen.

The people of Britain have voted. The EU need to respect the referendum outcome. It is fundamental to democracy. If the EU respect democracy then they will move on.

The EU is not trying to stop the UK from leaving. Where did you get that from? It is the other half of the Brits who are trying to stop the UK from leaving the EU, or at least not leave without a deal.


I can accept that however, it is true that the EU have not been cooperative and that is partly because of Britain's parliament. They undermined Theresa may and they are trying to do the same thing to Boris all because these recalcitrant MPs don't want to accept the decision of the British people.

The EU have tried every trick in the book and even tried to place a wedge between Northern Ireland and the mainland Britain which is extremely dirty.

They have failed now because Britain is ok with a no deal rather than to be held at ranson over Northern Ireland.
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