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[Lordo]

:lol:

its really sad how ignorant people are so wasteful of their lives. here is a man who has done more to eradicate racisms and he is accused of being bein one. t
let this jewish man tell you all about corbyn. you can kiss corbyn and normans ass boy.

[Lordo]

watch an learn asshole.

interesting that one of the jewish zionists claimed the jews did not take arms against the nazis. i beg to differ assholes. everybody who is oppressed has the right to fight.

meet the bielski brothers and his band of merry men who fought against the germans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans

[erolz66]

Usually, most of the kids that attend these schools are not what I would call wealthy. Most struggle to pay the fees.

No one who can pay the fees for going to my old public school is poor. Not a single one. No matter how much they might struggle to find the money to pay those fees. They are not poor. Millions in the UK ARE poor. 10s of millions. That some of the taxes those who ARE poor pay are used to subsidies schools like my old one is simply obscene. This is not the politics of envy. It is the politics of equity.

[Lordo]

here he is again explaining the video above. how can you dispute his logic.

[Lordo]

if it is education you are after you can do a lot worse than listening to these two beautiful minded individuals.

[erolz66]

Where did I say that ?

Wait for it, wait for it - Again, I feel you’ve missed my point

Which is the process. I am asking which is part of the process of trying to understand what you are saying. Why you think this is funny I am not sure ?

Do you support public schools being classed as charities or not ? You seem to accept that if such was removed from them that alone would not cause them to stop existing. Would not cause burden on the treasury as the kids going there end up going to state schools instead. Or have I misunderstood that ? So what is your view on them having CHARITY status ? That is what I am trying to understand. What YOUR opinion is on that.

The top “elite” schools will continue. Period. Unless banned, as a result of socialist political dogma. So, you won’t be rid of the Boris Johnson’s of this world. Just deny people like yourself and young Jimmy Bloggs the option.

Who said ending charity status of such schools would rid us of the Jonhsons of this world ? What it would do is save the treasury millions of pounds.

I love it when people who’ve been fortunate enough to benefit from something subsequently develop a puritan-like social conscience and decide others should be denied, because it’s unfair. Hypocrisy. Just like Ms Abbott, IIRC.

I was not fortunate enough to benefit from a public school education. I was fortunate enough to have survived such without too much damage. I support the removal of charity status from such schools because such is inherently and fundamentally unfair in social terms. I support the integration of such schools in to the state system because I do not think any child needs to be put at risk of of suffering the kind of emotional damage and scarring that I believe such a system makes statistically more likely than the state school system does.

[cyprusgrump]

I was not fortunate enough to benefit from a public school education. I was fortunate enough to have survived such without too much damage. I support the removal of charity status from such schools because such is inherently and fundamentally unfair in social terms. I support the integration of such schools in to the state system because I do not think any child needs to be put at risk of of suffering the kind of emotional damage and scarring that I believe such a system makes statistically more likely than the state school system does.

Amazing!

Somebody that posted this just a day or two ago....

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Now claims that his public school experience represents that of every pupil at every school in the country!

Which is utter bollox because it doesn't represent that of my daughter or the friends she made at school and is still in touch with...

...and I can assure you that I was not 'rich' at the time and we struggled to fund her education but thought at the time (and still think) the sacrifices we made were worth it.

So I call 'bollox' on several counts...

[erolz66]

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Now claims that his public school experience represents that of every pupil at every school in the country!

Which is utter bollox because it doesn't represent that of my daughter or the friends she made at school and is still in touch with...

was there some part of "statistically more likely" that was ambiguous or unclear ?

[Sotos]

I also want to explore this idea that my old private school and the hundreds of others like it are even "not for profit" entities...

OK, I don't know the specific facts for the UK and I am not going to argue with you about that. I am talking in general making a few assumptions, which might or might not be true for the UK.

Sotos would you be happy for the Cypriot state to use tax revenues raised from the entire population to subsidise the The English School that is only used by a tiny fraction of the wealthiest members just so long as that subsidy is less than the cost to the state of providing state education to that child ? Is that what would be in your manifesto if you were standing for election ?

According to Wikipedia the English School is now controlled by the government and receives state grants:

The school was founded in 1900 by an Anglican clergyman, Canon Frank Darvall Newham and since its inception the school has offered a British-style secondary level education. Originally it only accepted the children of the British rulers of the island and was located within the medieval walls of Nicosia. Over the years it accepted Cypriot pupils too and moved to its current premises in 1939. Although a boys school at first, girls were first allowed in 1957 into an affiliated school which was then incorporated as a co-educational school in 1962.[2]

The school started off as a private venture but control was transferred to the British Governor in 1930. Following independence from British occupation in 1960, control passed to the Cypriot Government. In 2007, the school's status and eligibility for state grants was challenged at the Supreme Court.[3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Engli ... l,_Nicosia

Why not offer state subsidies to the super rich for the purchase and running of private helicopters on the basis that by them using such means of transport they reduce the cost to the state of providing roads ?

You don't need to be "super-rich" to go to a private school. (in Cyprus at least)

[Lordo]

I was not fortunate enough to benefit from a public school education. I was fortunate enough to have survived such without too much damage. I support the removal of charity status from such schools because such is inherently and fundamentally unfair in social terms. I support the integration of such schools in to the state system because I do not think any child needs to be put at risk of of suffering the kind of emotional damage and scarring that I believe such a system makes statistically more likely than the state school system does.

Amazing!

Somebody that posted this just a day or two ago....

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Now claims that his public school experience represents that of every pupil at every school in the country!

Which is utter bollox because it doesn't represent that of my daughter or the friends she made at school and is still in touch with...

...and I can assure you that I was not 'rich' at the time and we struggled to fund her education but thought at the time (and still think) the sacrifices we made were worth it.

So I call 'bollox' on several counts...

as cash starved as the comprehensive system is, the bright children excel and if there was fair chances allocated would also end up in top universities but unfortunately oxford only alocates 5% of the places to all the comprehensive schools, and the rest goes to private schools. and so does cambrgidge too. you were born a asshole and you will die one in total ignorance.

nice of you to support such a system.