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[Paphitis]

good news today, labour up 6% in the polls. we have not even started yet.
and of course the reversals have begun with the tories

first it was suspend fracking till science tells us otherwise. of course on the 13th of december they will find a scientist who will say what they want to say.
they will remove the freezing of benefits back in 2016 by 2020.

funny how they start thinking clearer at election times.

The poll was done in London.

Look, I wouldn't be holding your breath. The only thing you can do is hope the BREXIT party strips enough voters from the Tories but you can also bet they will strip many labor voters too.

[Paphitis]

[Kikapu]

That is a bunch of shit as UK citizens always had the power and the protection of EU laws concerning workers and human rights. They will have less protection if the fascist tories get power forthe next 5 years. People deserve the leaders they choose.

[erolz66]

good news today, labour up 6% in the polls. we have not even started yet.
and of course the reversals have begun with the tories

first it was suspend fracking till science tells us otherwise. of course on the 13th of december they will find a scientist who will say what they want to say.
they will remove the freezing of benefits back in 2016 by 2020.

funny how they start thinking clearer at election times.

The poll was done in London.

Look, I wouldn't be holding your breath. The only thing you can do is hope the BREXIT party strips enough voters from the Tories but you can also bet they will strip many labor voters too.

A 6% swing from Conservative to Labour in Uxbridge would result in Jonhson losing his seat btw. Assuming of course he does not parachute himself in to a safer seat. I would not hold your breath either. The Tories will lose votes from traditional Tory voters who did not support leaving the EU in the first place. They will lose seats in Scotland. They will lose votes from traditional 'one nation' Tories who are fans of MPs like Ken Clark. They will lose votes from hard line Brexit supporters to the Brexit party. They currently have a -45 seat majority. So I am not sure where you think all the seats necessary for them to secure a majority in Parliament are going to come from ?

[Paphitis]

That is a bunch of shit as UK citizens always had the power and the protection of EU laws concerning workers and human rights. They will have less protection if the fascist tories get power forthe next 5 years. People deserve the leaders they choose.

Kikapu,

British unions and industrial relations are far more robust than anything the EU has to offer.

The EU is only interested in one thing. The supply of cheap labor to sustain the Banks and German manufacturing.

What the video is talking about is that the parliament which wasn't representing the will and wishes of the people has now buckled and supported a GE.

Furthermore, Brits do not need any EU protections on Human Rights and worker protections. Firstly, the EU and democracy seem to be bad bedfellows so they shouldn't be even uttering the words of Human Rights and democracy.

[miltiades]

That is a bunch of shit as UK citizens always had the power and the protection of EU laws concerning workers and human rights. They will have less protection if the fascist tories get power forthe next 5 years. People deserve the leaders they choose.

Kikapu,

British unions and industrial relations are far more robust than anything the EU has to offer.

The EU is only interested in one thing. The supply of cheap labor to sustain the Banks and German manufacturing.

What the video is talking about is that the parliament which wasn't representing the will and wishes of the people has now buckled and supported a GE.

Furthermore, Brits do not need any EU protections on Human Rights and worker protections. Firstly, the EU and democracy seem to be bad bedfellows so they shouldn't be even uttering the words of Human Rights and democracy.

So says the forum's idiot !!!
There are, including the UK, 28 member states in the greatest union of nations in the history of mankind. All 28 members voluntary and with zest applied for membership, according to you they are ....victims. Give it up stupid, concentrate on your ....millions, you did say you are a millionaire didn't you?
By the way, Assad is still there, have you lost interest for the Sunnis? Why are YOU withdrawing your ....troops ?? You said you would NEVER leave until Assad is removed!!
Oh, and other thing? Aleppo did fall.!!!
You NEVER get anything right. You are just a big mouth with an inflated ego where in reality you are not the least a confident man any more than you are a ....pilot !!

[Londonrake]

By the way Grump who will (if you have a vote) or would (if you do not) vote for on Dec 12th ? Tory or Brexit ? I would ask Londonrake as well but as it is impossible as far as I can tell to get a simple straight honest answer from him to such questions, it probably would be just a waste of time. Maybe answering such questions is what he means by refusing to be 'dragged into ever more extensive posts' ?

Good evening E.

I hope I haven't missed the bus. Sometimes we leave this forum where the (animated) discussion is about chalk, only to come back a few hours later to find it's moved on to cheese, with half a dozen or more posts.

Firstly, on a personal note. You should try to lighten up a bit E. You tend to come over as very dour. Sometimes bordering on morose. Absolutely nothing any of us says in here matters an iota, or affects any of the subjects being discussed. Ergo - there's nothing at stake. It's a tiny chat forum on a small island at the far end of the Med. But - I'm sure you knew that.

The simple answer to your question would be - Conservative. Nothing is simple though.

Firstly, this election is of course very Brexi - centric. However, it's far more important than that. The ramifications of the outcome could resonate long after you and I are pushing up the proverbial daisies.

Anyway, back to the coal face.

What terrible choices for us would-be leavers. On the one hand we have an untrustworthy Boris, proclaiming his deal from the roof tops. The contents of which are about 95% May's 3 times rejected effort. Moreover, if conceded (given we would be - theoretically - out of the federation) with the EU having gained Ireland, rights for EU citizens in the UK, the "divorce payment" and virtual maintenance of it's regulatory and jurisprudence over the UK for an extended period. During which, it can pass whatever the hell laws/regulations, destructive to the UK's interests, it wishes, with us being legally bound to obey without any say in it at all. Add to that we (yes us, too!) would probably be going through all of this bollocks again when it comes to the trade negotiations. Fun?

The Brexit Party. Well, if Nigel got run over by a bus the Brexit Party would be toast. That pretty succinctly sums it up I think.

Labour? Well, that's a book on it's own of course. I do love the way the left concentrate on character assassination when it comes to Boris but as far as Jeremy is concerned, despite his easily demonstrable appalling past activities, it's all about his policies. I've been around for a long time and can say with hand on heart that I've never known a politician less qualified to be the leader of his country. In fact he has shown every sign of despising it.

LibDems? Who would - if given a majority mandate (let's pretend) of a few hundred thousand or so - simply disregard the democratic vote of over 17 million UK voters. That's "democrats" for you nowadays I suppose.

So, the choices are pretty bleak IMHO. Moreover, despite the confidence of some, I really wouldn't like to predict the outcome of this one. Suffice to say I have moved all of my assets out of the UK and of course my ass to here.

Enough?

[erolz66]

Londonrake sorry TLDR. Was just looking for a simple answer to a simple question. Did not want to read a novel of get dragged in to endless and pointless discussion

[Londonrake]

Londonrake sorry TLDR. Was just looking for a simple answer to a simple question. Did not want to read a novel of get dragged in to endless and pointless discussion

Did that make you feel better then? Although, actually you did read it.

You asked a question and added "Maybe answering such questions is what he means by refusing to be 'dragged into ever more extensive posts' ?" Not really a straightforward question either, if you were interested in motivation, rather than just which box the X would go in.

I thought I'd go along with you. More fool me it seems. Once bitten.

[erolz66]

Londonrake sorry TLDR. Was just looking for a simple answer to a simple question. Did not want to read a novel of get dragged in to endless and pointless discussion

Did that make you feel better then? Although, actually you did read it.

You asked a question and added "Maybe answering such questions is what he means by refusing to be 'dragged into ever more extensive posts' ?" Not really a straightforward question either, if you were interested in motivation, rather than just which box the X would go in.

I thought I'd go along with you. More fool me it seems. Once bitten.

Try and lighten up a bit. Why so dour ?