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[Londonrake]

Why is it Project Fear? We know that Socialism has never worked anywhere - ever... What makes you think it will work this time...

In my experience, the usual response to that is “because they’ve never tried the real thing”. Many of the same people also say it about Communism - with its hundred million dead. I’m inclined to Corbyn and Co being more in that league, than socialist.

[cyprusgrump]

Why is it Project Fear? We know that Socialism has never worked anywhere - ever... What makes you think it will work this time...

In my experience, the usual response to that is “because they’ve never tried the real thing”. Many of the same people also say it about Communism - with its hundred million dead.

Of course!

Except in the case of Venezuela, they were all lauding it as a perfect example of 'real change' and 'real socialism' just a few years ago...

...until the money ran out and it all went tits-up of course...

[erolz66]

As ever you misunderstand me and the point I made. I have no disdain for smileys. I simply pointed out that it probably says something about those posters who use them to a degree that is greatly atypical compared to their average use and pondered what it might say about such posters.

No, there’s no misunderstanding. Searching obsessively through 50 of somebody’s back posts ( in 7 minutes? ) and meticulously counting Smilies. Then calculating an average isn’t something to be misunderstood. But look - I’ve got you using them now.

No you still misunderstand. I know this because I know what I mean. Let me, in reaction to you pro actively bringing your misunderstanding of what I did say and mean previously in order to try and score some kind of 'point', try again.

There is always one 'guy down the pub', who laughs at their own jokes more than anyone else, who can not give a dig or quip about someone without a smug wink or wry smile on their face, more then anyone else. Who can not express a view or opinion without an air of smug satisfaction and superiority, more than anyone else. You may or may not be that guy in the real world for all I know but from my perspective you undoubtedly challenge for that 'top spot' here on this forum. I have that impression because of your atypically excessive use of smileys. That was the opinion I was expressing.

[erolz66]

Why is it Project Fear? We know that Socialism has never worked anywhere - ever... What makes you think it will work this time...?

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Places like Norway have higher tax rates than the UK, they have a state owned rail system, lower gaps between the richest and poorest, lower levels of people and especially children living in poverty, a history of more liberal immigration policies and countless other differences to the UK. These countries do ok. They are not Venezuela.

[cyprusgrump]

As ever you misunderstand me and the point I made. I have no disdain for smileys. I simply pointed out that it probably says something about those posters who use them to a degree that is greatly atypical compared to their average use and pondered what it might say about such posters.

No, there’s no misunderstanding. Searching obsessively through 50 of somebody’s back posts ( in 7 minutes? ) and meticulously counting Smilies. Then calculating an average isn’t something to be misunderstood. But look - I’ve got you using them now.

No you still misunderstand. I know this because I know what I mean. Let me, in reaction to you pro actively bringing your misunderstanding of what I did say and mean previously in order to try and score some kind of 'point', try again.

There is always one 'guy down the pub', who laughs at their own jokes more than anyone else, who can not give a dig or quip about someone without a smug wink or wry smile on their face, more then anyone else. Who can not express a view or opinion without an air of smug satisfaction and superiority, more than anyone else. You may or may not be that guy in the real world for all I know but from my perspective you undoubtedly challenge for that 'top spot' here on this forum. I have that impression because of your atypically excessive use of smileys. That was the opinion I was expressing.

In your opinion it is atypical but in my experience it isn't at all...

Always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as fact...

In fact, on my own forum we have a much greater use of emotiwhotsits (and a larger range of them) and no limit on the number per post.

[cyprusgrump]

Why is it Project Fear? We know that Socialism has never worked anywhere - ever... What makes you think it will work this time...?

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Places like Norway have higher tax rates than the UK, they have a state owned rail system, lower gaps between the richest and poorest, lower levels of people and especially children living in poverty, a history of more liberal immigration policies and countless other differences to the UK. These countries do ok. They are not Venezuela.

Don't be daft...

Norway may have some features of socilism but it isn't a socialist country by any means - they embrace a free market economy for a start - unlike Steptoe and his chums...

[erolz66]

Can you spot the real elite ? Think of it as a CAPTCHA test to see if you are really human and not just a robot Click on the images that are 'of the elite'. That kind of thing.

toffs.jpg

or

nottoffs.jpg

[cyprusgrump]

Can you spot the real elite ? Think of it as a CAPTCHA test to see if you are really human and not just a robot Click on the images that are 'of the elite'. That kind of thing.

toffs.jpg

or

nottoffs.jpg

What on Earth are you on about...?

[erolz66]

Why is it Project Fear? We know that Socialism has never worked anywhere - ever... What makes you think it will work this time...?

Again with the 'royal we' - always a red flag for me when someone expressing their own personal opinion does so as the view of 'many'.

Places like Norway have higher tax rates than the UK, they have a state owned rail system, lower gaps between the richest and poorest, lower levels of people and especially children living in poverty, a history of more liberal immigration policies and countless other differences to the UK. These countries do ok. They are not Venezuela.

Don't be daft...

Norway may have some features of socilism but it isn't a socialist country by any means - they embrace a free market economy for a start - unlike Steptoe and his chums...

Look at the differences then compare with the manifestos. Norway has higher tax - Labour propose increasing tax rates for higher earners, Tories propose lowering them for higher earners. Noway has state owned rail system, Labour proposes taking UK rail back in to state ownership, Tories to keep it privatised. And and and.

What IS daft in MY opinion is the claim that Labour would seek to turn the UK in to Venezuela when if you look at what they propose it is actual closer to Norway. Such a claim is the most classic, blatant and blunt form of 'project fear' in MY opinion.

[erolz66]

Can you spot the real elite ? Think of it as a CAPTCHA test to see if you are really human and not just a robot Click on the images that are 'of the elite'. That kind of thing.

toffs.jpg

or

nottoffs.jpg

What on Earth are you on about...?

I am saying if you believe that the UK has a problem with 'elites' ruling things in their own interests, against the interests of 'the people', then when coming to vote being able to spot who is and is not 'of that elite' might be a useful ability