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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm

Erolz, whilst appreciating the level of eloquence of your posts, please permit me to use a more colloquial approach.The vast majority of leavers do not care if the UK economy crumbles, if the pound in their pockets is worth 10cents or less just as long as we are not part of this bloody foreign group. Most leavers are I'll educated, possess not an iota of logic, hate the Krouts and the Frogs, yes most are just simple minded, as well as ...stupid, they tend to spend much of their time sitting on their brains.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:General ..Plonker wrote :
"Nigel Farage has always supported a clean break. Trump always supported a clean break as well. So do I. "
It comes as no surprise that one arsehole, one Clown and one idiot concur!!

Yeah, and fuck the majority Brits and MPs who do not support a "clean break", even if such thing exits after 40+ years being in the EU. :?


Big assumption there.

Those who voted BREXIT want BREXIT not a treaty to delay it for another 3 years.

People will have there say AGAIN at the next election.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:14 pm

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
miltiades wrote:General ..Plonker wrote :
"Nigel Farage has always supported a clean break. Trump always supported a clean break as well. So do I. "
It comes as no surprise that one arsehole, one Clown and one idiot concur!!

Yeah, and fuck the majority Brits and MPs who do not support a "clean break", even if such thing exits after 40+ years being in the EU. :?

can somebody explain in practical terms what a clean break means.

do we pay the financial settlement or not
do we adhere to eu regualtions or not
do we have trade with the eu or not
what the hell do those words mean?


Yes it means leaving the EU where Britain has the ability to make its own legislation and create its own Free Trade Deals.

It's NOT a treaty that prohibits Britain from creating its own Free Trade Deals because the EU don't like it.

It puts the UK on the same level as Switzerland, Norway, Australia, Japan and USA.

To answer your other questions:

do we pay the financial settlement or not - NO unless we owe them any money for any reason.
do we adhere to eu regualtions or not - NO (unless they are ratified into British Law by the legitimate Government of the UK without any coercion and in order to meet trade regulations or a FTD). Even non members who trade with the EU (like Australia) meet EU trade regulations and the EU also meet Australian Standards which btw, are far more stringent than the EU. If you read Australian Quality Standards and regulations and compare them to the EU, you will actually fall over and die.
do we have trade with the eu or not - YES ABSOLUTELY.


It really is that easy.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:34 pm

miltiades wrote:Erolz, whilst appreciating the level of eloquence of your posts, please permit me to use a more colloquial approach.The vast majority of leavers do not care if the UK economy crumbles, if the pound in their pockets is worth 10cents or less just as long as we are not part of this bloody foreign group. Most leavers are I'll educated, possess not an iota of logic, hate the Krouts and the Frogs, yes most are just simple minded, as well as ...stupid, they tend to spend much of their time sitting on their brains.


Really stupid you are!

What makes you think Brexiteers don't care for then UK Government?

So let's get this straight.

Someone who wants to wrangle back power to The House of Commons and away from the pseudo Euro parliament, so that lawmakers who pass laws are actually elected by British voters and are accountable to British voters and are individuals of British citizenry and live in Britain, somehow now don't care for Britain or the economy?

Mmmm...rightio Coco!

I put it to you that Brexiteers just don't want laws introduced by people who they did not elect and who are not accountable to them. This is a fair point - please see the definition of DEMOCRACY.

Now, given the above as fact - that BREXITEERS want to be represented by their own elected representatives, I put it to you that BREXITEERS not only care for the British people, but they also care about the economy among many other things as well such as the NHS. A Health System that is by far the very best in all of Europe, and was introduced by British lawmakers and NOT the EU. We all know that the EU isn't the benchmark here when it comes to health care.

People are no longer buying yero.

You had your day and that day is fast coming to a close Coco.

I told you a long time ago that your antis will make BOJO a Champion of the people. He is now at 41% at the polls, That's enough for a majority Government.

More than 50% of all voters will either vote for the Tories or BREXIT Party.

It's over sunshine! It's over Coco!

I would like to thank all remoaners for their assistance. It has been greatly appreciated. :D
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Re: what next?

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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:35 am

What a flagrant display of utter stupidity.
Have a rest, stop sitting on your brains.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:08 am

miltiades wrote:What a flagrant display of utter stupidity.
Have a rest, stop sitting on your brains.


You said Brexiteers don’t care about the economy.

Not only do they care about the economy but they what laws to be passed by British Citizens who are elected to represent them and who are accountable to them also.

These would care far more for the British Economy than any foreigner who is not a British Citizen and who is not elected by the British people and who at the moment can pass laws for the British Nation in an unaccountable fashion from a non transparent and undemocratic and illegal Pseudo Parliament in Brussels,

You don’t have a leg to stand on.
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Re: what next?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:14 am

erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Bore-Dough wrote:do we pay the financial settlement or not


We pay any outstanding amounts we owe is all. And we get back our share of assets we have contributed to.


Not according to the Brexit party at their launch today. They proposed a 200 billion spending package, and 39 billion of that would be funded by NOT paying the outstanding amounts we owe.

So grump do you prefer a 'clean break' exit over an exit based on the Johnson deal ? Given that you 'voted' here for the Johnson deal.


Yes, my preference has always been for a clean break from the institutions of the EU. And I believe that if that had been our initial negotiating position we would have been out by now and trading tariff free with the EU.

However, one has to be pragmatic about these things and given the remain biased parliament was doing everything they could to thwart Brexit completely then the Boris 'deal' would at least be a step in the direction of Brexit. Sadly, parliament couldn't even bring itself to vote for that.
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Re: what next?

Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:46 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What a flagrant display of utter stupidity.
Have a rest, stop sitting on your brains.


You said Brexiteers don’t care about the economy.

Not only do they care about the economy but they what laws to be passed by British Citizens who are elected to represent them and who are accountable to them also.

These would care far more for the British Economy than any foreigner who is not a British Citizen and who is not elected by the British people and who at the moment can pass laws for the British Nation in an unaccountable fashion from a non transparent and undemocratic and illegal Pseudo Parliament in Brussels,

You don’t have a leg to stand on.

You are making a fool of your self time and time again.
What is " illegal" about the EU you fucking idiot. What is a " pseudo Parliament "you moron .
Look, do us all a favour, concentrate on you million plus tax deductible loans, and your .....flying
Now piss off you fucking moron.
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Re: what next?

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:57 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What a flagrant display of utter stupidity.
Have a rest, stop sitting on your brains.


You said Brexiteers don’t care about the economy.

Not only do they care about the economy but they what laws to be passed by British Citizens who are elected to represent them and who are accountable to them also.

These would care far more for the British Economy than any foreigner who is not a British Citizen and who is not elected by the British people and who at the moment can pass laws for the British Nation in an unaccountable fashion from a non transparent and undemocratic and illegal Pseudo Parliament in Brussels,

You don’t have a leg to stand on.

You are making a fool of your self time and time again.
What is " illegal" about the EU you fucking idiot. What is a " pseudo Parliament "you moron .
Look, do us all a favour, concentrate on you million plus tax deductible loans, and your .....flying
Now piss off you fucking moron.


I’m not making a fool of myself old man.

I am a pragmatic individual always on the side of the people and democracy.

You who have decided to go against the grain of what is right, moral and democratic, is the one with egg on their face.

I will be here to rub your nose in it constantly as well.

What is illegal about the EU? EVERYTHING! They have conspired and interfered into they internal politics of the UK and bullied the United Kingdon to Circumvent their democratic vote. They are not elected and they are not accountable.

The UK is revolting!
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