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[erolz66]

BTW, I have a degree in Aviation from CAE Oxford that calls me a Scientist. The very same institution as Oxford University in the UK .....

No it is not the 'very same institution'. There would appear to be no link between CAE Oxford and Oxford University that I can find other than they both are 'in' Oxford. Nor do they appear to even offer BA or higher course in 'Aviation'. The courses they do offer can be seen here https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/trai ... -training/

[Paphitis]

Is it an ....idiot's degree?? !!!

No its a pots and pans degree like yours!

My degree is real ! Dosh in the bank !!
How is Tesla doing for you ?

I never said anything about Tesla other than say they are an innovative company.

BTW, I think I might have more DOSH in the bank than you do. Plus I am a lot more younger to be able to enjoy it. I'm not bragging or anything.

Put it this way, I am not poor.

[B25]

Milti, compare like for like, you have 30+years on this fella to have made your money. Asking him in 30 years what he has then compare!!!

Also, Paphiti, meteorologists 'Predict' the weather, they don't prove or disprove it, that's the best anyone can do with the data supplied. of course they can get it wrong, things change hourly.

[Paphitis]

I have spent a lifetime studying my craft Pyro and we experiment all the time in our careers. Especially when things go wrong. Like for instance when you land a plan in the Hudson. That's an experiment. Or when you are forced to ditch (Ive never had to do one in my career thankfully but I came close in the Indian Ocean about 25 years ago - within 300Feet in a microburst).

You are making a claim that in 15 years the British GDP will be 139 Billion lower. You are mnot telling us all the assumptions that have been used. For instance, they are presuming no FTD for 15 years. Surely, that is impossible.

I do know what they are saying but this cost on GDP isn't 139 Billion each year. They are saying that the British GDP will be lower by about 139 Billion in 15 years. Plus, the argument is a one way street. They are not factoring in a FTD with the EU at any point.

BTW, I have a degree in Aviation from CAE Oxford that calls me a Scientist. The very same institution as Oxford University in the UK and I also have a Masters Degree in Human Factors, Aeromedicine and Crew Resource Management.

Its a BA in Applied Science and Physics majoring in Aviation.

When you do your ATPL exams, its basically 80% science and engineering - Aerodynamics, Aircraft Systems, navigation, Flight Planning, Atmospheric Physics, Meteorology, Human Factors, Crew Resource Management, Crew Systems Management, Maths, and so on.

meteorologists are also scientists but they are never expert enough to predict the weather correctly all the time, and the science you are referring to that went into the above figures is even worse because they are guessing what will happen in 15 years time.

Aviation is also a Science with a bit of engineering thrown in as well.

it's what you have called Science which isn't a science.

You may imagine whatever you like,even that CAE Oxoford is part of the Oxford University.
This what it is:
https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/become-a-pilot/

I am not an economist myself to explain you the details behind each study although I do understand their methodology. It's simply upto you to do the reading and understand what they say. The predictions rage from 4.7% to 9.3% whereas the prevailing figure is 7.6%.

It's not that hard to do a simple multiplication based on data is it?
7.6% X $39,720 (UK's GDP per Capita) X 66 million (population)=139 billion/year.
Data from here
https://www.google.com/search?q=UK%27s+ ... =firefox-b

Well it was when I was there in the early 2000s. It was very much affiliated with Oxford in those days.

And I might be going back there in a few weeks for another endorsement on type.

Economists have their talents as do meteorologists but they can't possibly predict what Britain's GDP would be in 15 years time in the EU and what it will be in 15 years time with BREXIT, much like Meteorologists sometimes can't forecast the next day's weather.

They are guessing and making many assumptions. For instance, BREXIT will not haunt Britain indefinitely even if there were bad repercussions. Britain will eventually have a FTD with the EU and FTDs with other countries.

[erolz66]

BTW, I have a degree in Aviation from CAE Oxford that calls me a Scientist.

Places in the UK where you can get a 'degree in Aviation' from are listed here https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/univer ... ree-course

No mention of CAE Oxford on that list. Nor on this one either https://www.bachelorstudies.com/Bachelor/Aviation/

[Paphitis]

Milti, compare like for like, you have 30+years on this fella to have made your money. Asking him in 30 years what he has then compare!!!

Also, Paphiti, meteorologists 'Predict' the weather, they don't prove or disprove it, that's the best anyone can do with the data supplied. of course they can get it wrong, things change hourly.

If these people can predict the British GDP in 15 years time, then they should head over to wall Street because its obvious to me that such talent would make them rich.

For all these economists know, the globe could go into deep recession in 15 years time or total depression. No friggin economist was ever clever enough to predict the Great Depression, yet they are predicting the British GDP in 15 years time.

Pigs Arse!

As to my finances, I have been fortunate enough to inherit a lot of generational wealth in Australia. My Dad came to Australia in 1955. He achieved quite a fair bit and that gave me a very big leg up in life. And I went on from there.

I was never in a spot to start from nothing or from square one. I have made a lot of money in my own right but when you start with money already in the Bank and on the balance Sheet, using that money to make money is fairly easy compared to starting over.

So I probably got 30 years on Milti.

[erolz66]

Well it was when I was there in the early 2000s. It was very much affiliated with Oxford in those days.

I call BS in the absence of any evidence what so ever other than your personal claim.

Britain will eventually have a FTD with the EU and FTDs with other countries.

You do not have to be an economist or have a degree to be able to understand that there is no form of trade deal between the UK and the EU that can offer the same degree of benefits re the removal of barriers to trade between these entities, with the UK outside the EU as are gained when inside it.

[Paphitis]

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/find ... /aviation/

yep, they have degrees alright, and I got a couple of their degrees and I can prove it too. And I almost upgraded to PhD in Human Factors and CRM as well.

Not only that, but they have dozens of establishments around the world and are affiliated to many airlines who send their pilots for IOE Training

[erolz66]

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/find-a-course/aviation/

yep, they have degrees alright, and I got a couple of their degrees and I can prove it too. And I almost upgraded to PhD in Human Factors and CRM as well.

Not only that, but they have dozens of establishments around the world and are affiliated to many airlines who send their pilots for IOE Training

Yes Swinburne University of Technology do offer degree courses in Aviation and do so in partnership with CAE Oxford Aviation Academy but the degree is from / awarded by Swinburne University of Technology, not CAE Oxrford, who do not offer such degrees themselves. So you may have a degree in aviation from Swinburne University of Technology. What you do not have, because such does not exist, is a degree in aviation from either CAE Oxford or Oxford University.

[Paphitis]

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/find-a-course/aviation/

yep, they have degrees alright, and I got a couple of their degrees and I can prove it too. And I almost upgraded to PhD in Human Factors and CRM as well.

Not only that, but they have dozens of establishments around the world and are affiliated to many airlines who send their pilots for IOE Training

Yes Swinburne University of Technology do offer degree courses in Aviation and do so in partnership with CAE Oxford Aviation Academy but the degree is from / awarded by Swinburne University of Technology, not CAE Oxrford, who do not offer such degrees themselves. So you may have a degree in aviation from Swinburne University of Technology. What you do not have, because such does not exist, is a degree in aviation from either CAE Oxford or Oxford University.

The degrees are awarded by Swinburne and CAE Oxford since the damn whole course is actually run by CAE Oxford. The simulators are owned by CAE Oxford and the course is run on a CAE Oxford facility and with CAE Oxford Instructors.

They are not the only ones either.

CAE Oxford is a recognized institution which offers pilot training around the world and integrated courses in Australia, UK, USA, Canada, and Singapore. They are everywhere.

https://www.cae.com/civil-aviation/loca ... on-academy