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[Londonrake]

So having done a quick check of your last 50 post Londonrake, some apology is in order in terms of my guessed degree to which you do this. It would appear that the number of times you have managed to post here without having to include the use of smug, self-satisfied. complacent, gloating, self-approving, self-congratulatory, disdainful, sneering, contemptuous or mocking emoticons is around 34% and not my guessed 10%. As to the other 66 % of your posts, well my point still stands. Having checked your first 50 post here as well the % appears remarkably consistent - again around 66% that contain your 'signature' use of smug (and all the rest) smileys and 34% that do not.

You really do need to get out more Erolz. Rather than spending 63.47521% of your time on forums.



Oops, nearly forgot......................

[erolz66]

So having done a quick check of your last 50 post Londonrake, some apology is in order in terms of my guessed degree to which you do this. It would appear that the number of times you have managed to post here without having to include the use of smug, self-satisfied. complacent, gloating, self-approving, self-congratulatory, disdainful, sneering, contemptuous or mocking emoticons is around 34% and not my guessed 10%. As to the other 66 % of your posts, well my point still stands. Having checked your first 50 post here as well the % appears remarkably consistent - again around 66% that contain your 'signature' use of smug (and all the rest) smileys and 34% that do not.

You really do need to get out more Erolz. Rather than spending 63.47521% of your time on forums.



Oops, nearly forgot......................

Yeah I certainly do tend to prefer to use actual data and hard evidence in support of my views and opinions rather than sarcasm, quips, smug self congratulatory emoticons, made up 'stats' and ad homien attacks. Data like

Londonrake days since joining the forum 1363 - posts made 1517 - average posts per day 1.113
erolz, erolz3 and erolz66 days since joining the forum 5529 - posts made 4971 - average posts per day 0.899

Seems like once more you may be in need of a mirror from where I am sitting ?

[Londonrake]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

[erolz66]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

Still talking for and on behalf of everybody I see. There is no such singular thing as deploying 'confirmation bias' or not, there is only the degree to which people do so and the only useful information in comparative terms is the degree to which one person does vs another. You appear to bemoan the lack of recognition of 'hard evidence' here generically and then use that as an excuse for you personally ignoring hard evidence when it does not suit you ? Or is that unfair ? Is that not what you have just done ?

It also feels like you pointing out my greater than average willingness to put in actual effort (took about 7 mins I estimate) to test my 'guesses' and 'opinions' with actual hard data and evidence by labelling such a 'tad obsessive' is supposed to be disparaging of me ? If it is supposed to be disparaging then for where I am sitting it is not only not disparaging, it is in fact, to me, complimentary of me. So thanks for that.

[cyprusgrump]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

Still talking for and on behalf of everybody I see. There is no such singular thing as deploying 'confirmation bias' or not, there is only the degree to which people do so and the only useful information in comparative terms is the degree to which one person does vs another. You appear to bemoan the lack of recognition of 'hard evidence' here generically and then use that as an excuse for you personally ignoring hard evidence when it does not suit you ? Or is that unfair ? Is that not what you have just done ?

It also feels like you pointing out my greater than average willingness to put in actual effort (took about 7 mins I estimate) to test my 'guesses' and 'opinions' with actual hard data and evidence by labelling such a 'tad obsessive' is supposed to be disparaging of me ? If it is supposed to be disparaging then for where I am sitting it is not only not disparaging, it is in fact, to me, complimentary of me. So thanks for that.

So tell us Mr. Statistician, how much time do you spend on the forum every day hoping that somebody will respond to one of your tediously boring and repetitious posts...?

[erolz66]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

Still talking for and on behalf of everybody I see. There is no such singular thing as deploying 'confirmation bias' or not, there is only the degree to which people do so and the only useful information in comparative terms is the degree to which one person does vs another. You appear to bemoan the lack of recognition of 'hard evidence' here generically and then use that as an excuse for you personally ignoring hard evidence when it does not suit you ? Or is that unfair ? Is that not what you have just done ?

It also feels like you pointing out my greater than average willingness to put in actual effort (took about 7 mins I estimate) to test my 'guesses' and 'opinions' with actual hard data and evidence by labelling such a 'tad obsessive' is supposed to be disparaging of me ? If it is supposed to be disparaging then for where I am sitting it is not only not disparaging, it is in fact, to me, complimentary of me. So thanks for that.

So tell us Mr. Statistician, how much time do you spend on the forum every day hoping that somebody will respond to one of your tediously boring and repetitious posts...?

Do you also laugh at your own 'clever put downs' in real life to the same degree you do here ? Or do you reserve such boorish behaviour primarily for online posting under a hidden identity ?

[Pyrpolizer]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

Still talking for and on behalf of everybody I see. There is no such singular thing as deploying 'confirmation bias' or not, there is only the degree to which people do so and the only useful information in comparative terms is the degree to which one person does vs another. You appear to bemoan the lack of recognition of 'hard evidence' here generically and then use that as an excuse for you personally ignoring hard evidence when it does not suit you ? Or is that unfair ? Is that not what you have just done ?

It also feels like you pointing out my greater than average willingness to put in actual effort (took about 7 mins I estimate) to test my 'guesses' and 'opinions' with actual hard data and evidence by labelling such a 'tad obsessive' is supposed to be disparaging of me ? If it is supposed to be disparaging then for where I am sitting it is not only not disparaging, it is in fact, to me, complimentary of me. So thanks for that.

So tell us Mr. Statistician, how much time do you spend on the forum every day hoping that somebody will respond to one of your tediously boring and repetitious posts...?

I personally learned something new from Erolz.
Why don't you teach him how to get responses for his single brain cell, or his bucket?

[cyprusgrump]

Pahhh! Nobody takes any notice of hard evidence in here. It’s all confirmation bias.

Still, to go through 50 of somebody’s posts, counting emoticons and calculating the stats does seem a tad ..........obsessive.

Still talking for and on behalf of everybody I see. There is no such singular thing as deploying 'confirmation bias' or not, there is only the degree to which people do so and the only useful information in comparative terms is the degree to which one person does vs another. You appear to bemoan the lack of recognition of 'hard evidence' here generically and then use that as an excuse for you personally ignoring hard evidence when it does not suit you ? Or is that unfair ? Is that not what you have just done ?

It also feels like you pointing out my greater than average willingness to put in actual effort (took about 7 mins I estimate) to test my 'guesses' and 'opinions' with actual hard data and evidence by labelling such a 'tad obsessive' is supposed to be disparaging of me ? If it is supposed to be disparaging then for where I am sitting it is not only not disparaging, it is in fact, to me, complimentary of me. So thanks for that.

So tell us Mr. Statistician, how much time do you spend on the forum every day hoping that somebody will respond to one of your tediously boring and repetitious posts...?

Do you also laugh at your own 'clever put downs' in real life to the same degree you do here ? Or do you reserve such boorish behaviour primarily for online posting under a hidden identity ?

Oh no, I'm hilarious in 'real life' too!

You should get one...

[Paphitis]

They don't want freedom of movement. They want to tighten their borders as a matter of fact because the EU is too liberal and free with their borders and are letting anyone in.

Getting a VISA is a very easy process with regard to any EU country. I myself have an EU passport and can go anywhere, but I also have an Australian passport which gets me into the UK very easily. It's also easy to get to many contracts like Germany and France in particular as an Australian so it isn't really a problem.

Brits will of course eventually be allowed to come and go to the EU as in a full customs union in due course after BREXIT once these matters are agreed to and ironed out. Once again, there are 1 million EU citizens in the UK and there are a few million Brits living in EU countries.

Who said they don't want freedom of movement? YOU?
Everybody wants freedom of movement including the hard Brexiters. Fact is they will lose this freedom for presumably tightening their borders.
It's one of the many things they will lose...

As for your wishful thinking they are going to get a full customs union, just wait and see how full that will be, and what commitments they will have to undertake and how much they will need to pay for the cost involved.
Fyi the EU customs union is not only for products made fully in a member state but also for products made partially in 3rd countries and finalized in the EU. Not an easy process to keep track...
E.g. in the past Britain was importing sugar canes and passing the final product -sugar as if it was "made in England". Those practices are over!

As for the Visas they would need to waste their time at embassies, some of them will be rejected e.g. known football troublemakers, and they'd have to abandon the visiting country after a certain period.

I am an Australian and I can understand them more than you think. Brits, Australians and Americans are wired very differently. Australia and the USA also have the tightest border and immigration controls on the planet and the Brits want this too.

That is their entire motivation. It is as follows in case you missed it:
1) they want to regain every aspect of their sovereignty, and
2) they want tougher immigration and border controls.

In other words, they want the Old England back. Hence the term "Old Englanders"

I am totally in step with that sentiment myself and also want the Old Cyprus back. In 30 to 50 years from now, Cyprus is a Muslim country. Don't say I didn't warn you.

If Cypriot politics was not full of traitors, they would be going down the Little Englander path as well but you have a problem - Turkey.

These Anglos are a different breed. I have lived it all my life and let me tell you who we as Australians and New Zealanders have as BLOOD Brothers.

They are:
1) The Yanks (Americans) because for 100 years we have been joined with them since we were charging up the hill during The Battle of Somme and on the Western Front in France under Field Marshall Monash
2) The Kiwis _ ANZACS and all that. Everyone heard it all before.
3) Greece - yes New Zealand and Australia has been as close to Greece as they are with the Yanks and closer to Greece than even Britain. This relationship was forged on the battlefield. After the Greek (Allied) Surrender in Crete, Australians and Kiwi units always requested the attachment of Greek Units and they were always together in Syria, Palestine, Egypt, El Alamein, Tobruk and people are not aware but Greek Troops invaded Italy in 1944 with Australian and KIWI fighters. General B Freyberg was very much a philhellene. You could not separate the Greeks for the Kiwis and Aussies. The Greek mentality was very much in step with them (alcohol, cards and just being total larrikins). There was a literal love affair with the Hellenic Armed Forces.
4) after that its the Brits.

Do not for a second imagine you are more clever than the Brits. That is not true. They are aware there will be no freedom of movement and they are also aware of the potential cost to the economy. They DO NOT CARE!

The Brexiteers today are actually increasing in numbers.

[CBBB]

Oh no, I'm hilarious in 'real life' to!

You should get one...

Ooh, bitch!