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[Lordo]

this is why xavier is so affected by it. he has in his hands 50 million brits and a million brits in the eu and 3 million eu citizens in the uk. and the troy party has selected this idiot for a leader.

today in court

<<Lord Wilson questioned why no witness statement had been provided by a minister to explain why the prorogation decision was taken.

He said: "Isn't it odd that nobody has signed a witness statement to say 'This is true, these are the true reasons for what was done'?">>

the obvious question is why not, why would a minister not sign a witness statement after all it is true right? there is no chance it can be false right or that there is eveidnece to the conterary?

[B25]

Taking a Parliamentary decision to the courts is in itself wrong.

The courts don't run the country and by doing this and even following any direction that the court may issues is a major cause of concern.

Just think how government can now be blocked from decisions by say someone like Gina Miller taking it to court and contesting it. It may not get there so fast next time!!!

This is clearly a breach of constitutional order by any standards.

The irony is of course that the courts represent the Crown, and the Crown made the original decision so what are we saying here, the court has high power than the Queen now????

Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Imagine if they found in BoJo's favour, does that mean Yfuck needs to eat ALL of his words

[Paphitis]

BTW, shame on Luxembourg.

Luxembourg has done something unprecedented and ridiculed a British PM which is extremely not on. I take my hat of to Boris for not taking any of the bait and taking the high road in this.

But let me tell you what would happen if Luxembourg did that to Pootin, or the USA President, Japan, Australia or a number of others. There would be a major incident, and their ambassador (if there is one) would get hauled in and asked for an explanation to Foreign Affairs.

Even Pootin, when he came to Australia, wasn't embarrassed or made an example of even with Russian and Australian warships playing very dangerous war-games in very close proximity off the coast and even with an entire US Battle Group joining in. He was isolated yes. No one would talk to him. But authorities tried very hard to keep things as civil as possible.

Shame on Luxembourg!

This is a very clear example that the EU is recalcitrant and that Britain can't negotiate with these criminals properly. It's time to get out.

He ridiculed himself by refusing to attend a scheduled Press conference.
https://extra.ie/2019/09/16/news/brexit ... -and-jeers

He had lunch with Junker and Xavier so their was no refusal or snubbing of the Luxembourg PM at all.

The podiums were near protesters who heckled Boris and Boris made a decision that holding a press conference there was not conducive and would have been undignified and awkward.

He was not wrong. The press conference should NOT have been held there. It should have been held inside and Boris would have attended. Imagine if Cyprus had a press conference with USA President Trump only a few meters from 100 loud protesters. What do you think would happen? Do you expect the POTUS to participate? And if you embarrass him, what do you think would happen to US/Cypriot bilateral relations?

He is not going to hold a speech in front of yelling and hysterical protest. No Head of State would do that. That is common sense.

No I am sorry but the actual embarrassment here is for Luxembourg and the EU. This can only strengthen the Brexit cause. Even Germany slammed and criticized Luxembourg saying that Luxembourg was clearly out of order and that their behavior is no reflection on EU interests which require a BREXIT deal.

Boris handled the situation 100% correctly and gained a lot of support.

Junker today also distanced himself from Xavier Bettel's behavior and today said that a NO DEAL BREXIT on the 31st of October is now palpable. He was indeed very worried and asked for restraint because the EU will still try to have a Free Trade Deal with Britain even after a NO DEAL BREXIT and that the antics in Luxembourg were not helpful to EU interests.

The embarrassment belongs to Xavier. What is wrong however was his behaviour in ridiculing the PM of another visiting country. Boris merely walked off because he is not going to hold a speech in-front of hecklers and no one should expect such stupidity.

You seem to forget that the protestors were all British!
Secondly yes he ridiculed himself in many ways:
Firstly and most importantly by going there and asking Xavier to propose him ways to solve the backstop issue. As if it's their responsibility.
And secondly by initially accepting to give a press conference in an open space without knowing that such press conferences may have problems from yelling crowds!!
There has never been a more stupid head of state. Ever !! And this idiot is supposed to dictate UK's future??

It doesn’t matter where they are from and I am aware that most were probably a rent a crowd from Britain.

That is irrelevant. When Boris walked out of the meeting the heckling and noise was intense and there were shouts of “Shame on you”

All this because a British PM seems resolute to implement the mandate by the people given to them by the British people at the 2016 referendum. The British people were promised a once in a generation say in Britain’s future relationship with the EU.

This is a question of democracy and Boris was in no position to attend a press conference in such adverse conditions. There was no disrespect to the EU or to Luxembourg but Boris is the PM of Britain and deserves the dignity and respect given to any other Head of Government who came to Luxembourg to hold talks in good faith.

He didn’t ask Xavier to solve anything. He went there to hold discussions with the EU because he holds EU Presidency right now. Ordinarily, Luxembourg is smaller than Cyprus but the area rich country and they have a special deal with the EU.

Do not forget that Boris is ok with a clean break WTO Brexit. That is the message he has sent. It is a message that the EU have finally received. Boris must be respected for his direction and leadership in the British interest. And not without risk to himself either. He could be accountable to the law.

The EU have finally got that message and for the first time the Germans and Junker are running scared and don’t want a WTO brexit.

One German MEP said that the cost to the German economy is tens of thousands of jobs.

They also indicated deep regret and indicated that even if there is a no deal brexit, the EU and Britain will continue with negotiations which also means trade will continue as is in the near term.

[Paphitis]

Boris has in his hands the entire principles of what it means to be a democratic country.

What is very worrying now is the clear undermining of the democratic process and certain parts of society think that is a good idea.

You see any imbecile can create any psychological manipulations about the welfare of millions of people but what this is really about is the democratic rights of millions of common people Vs the political and established elites who want to hold power over the people in a democracy which is a mere illusion and not a democracy at all. Do we want democracy or do we want an illusion. If we want an illusion then please justify to me the immense loss of allied troops fighting for freedom? What was the point? Yeh it comes down to this at the end of the day. Did my great uncle die in vain or did he die for democracy? Did Palikarides die for freedom or did he die for an illusion of freedom?

Hundreds of thousands of British Troops gave their lives fighting fascism in the past as well but this fascism is coming in by stealth and the problem the elites have in this day and age is the internet and alternative sources of information and media. People are far more savvy in this day and age. There are those who want to be free and those who place their freedom up for sale.

I am not saying Britain’s system is perfect. They do have The House of Lords which needs to be reformed in my opinion into more of a Senate where members are elected. But it is an old established form of democracy and the Crown has been stable for them. I am against all such systems which is why I am a fan of Nigel Farage. He seems to have his heart in the right place and no one can deny his passion.

As an Australian, I am a Republican but I can’t really fault Australia’s system or the Crown. It has been a far better system of Government than Cyprus and I can say that with hand on heart. So there is a lot to be said about the Monarch. We have been blessed in this country. So blessed!

[Paphitis]

Here is a statistic.

The British to EU trade deficit in in excess of 100 billion pounds per year.

So again, I ask! Both sides will be losers but who will be the biggest loser? Britain or EU?

I am sorry but I don’t like Britain’s legacy in Cyprus. I like their global legacy however as a nation of people that have contributed a great deal towards the good like no other. They have done a lot to be very proud of. Look at Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It is no coincidence that these countries are among the global elite.

But I don’t care who they are other other than the fact I see a battle between democracy and the little pauper against the elites.

I firmly believe that the EU is pushing Southern Europe to extreme levels if poverty and despair. However, I understand Cyprus’ political interests under the current circumstances of illegal occupation. But I can not forgive the EU pushing millions of Greeks, Spanish and Portuguese towards a life of poverty.

As such I am with the British people here.

I thank the British people for fighting these criminals.

I am a supporter of the poor and the common people but I am also a social conservative when it comes to values. Therefore, the reason why I am anti Liberal Democrat, Labor and all their debauchery.

That makes me a conservative voter and a real socialist who believes in freedom, democracy and family and traditional values. Every dog needs a bone.

[miltiades]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

[cyprusgrump]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

Perhaps you can complete your sojourn into the complex world of statistics and tell us what %'age voted Remain...?

[miltiades]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

Perhaps you can complete your sojourn into the complex world of statistics and tell us what %'age voted Remain...?

Why dont you remove that stupid bucket from your head, give your solitary brain cell some oxygen then you can work it out and let us all know ! What an absolute Plonker!

[Pyrpolizer]

The EU have finally got that message and for the first time the Germans and Junker are running scared and don’t want a WTO brexit.

One German MEP said that the cost to the German economy is tens of thousands of jobs.

They also indicated deep regret and indicated that even if there is a no deal brexit, the EU and Britain will continue with negotiations which also means trade will continue as is in the near term.

It's quite natural to show concern when someone's intending to commit suicide.
Undoubtedly it's going to cost everyone something, however the biggest losers by a margin will be the British themselves.
Of course there's going to be some trade deal after a no deal Brexit, under conditions of despair in the UK. Don't hold your breath it will be any better than Theressa May's deal.

[Pyrpolizer]

Here is a statistic.

The British to EU trade deficit in in excess of 100 billion pounds per year.

So again, I ask! Both sides will be losers but who will be the biggest loser? Britain or EU?

Britain of course! Trade with the EU will not stop and their deficit will actually increase.
That's because over the years they lost their manufacturing base (not all but most of it) that could ensure them more exports, for the easy life of making money out of money in the city of London Financial markets. Paris and Amsterdam are waiting to steal that too.
Then what?