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[Lordo]

..... but it will still have to go to the public for a confirmation.

Not legally ? There is nothing I can see that would legally require such a bill if passed / passable in the commons needing confirmation from the people via a referendum ? Do you mean Labour would not give support for such a bill unless it included confirmatory vote via referendum ? If such a bill's passage would need to go to the public, would it then be offered (in your opinion) as a choice between it and some other option , like 'revoke' or 'no deal' exit ?

I agree but morally it is which is why corbyn will take it to the people.

[erolz66]

Am kind of curious as to Cyprusgrump's view on Johnson's statement that a no deal exit 'would be a failure' ? Seems / feels to me like a softening of his previous position and may be preparing to put a variant of TM deals back to parliament again ?

Seems like Farage has the same 'suspicion' I had. He has tweeted

The Boris bravado has disappeared in Dublin, saying NO Deal would be a "failure of statecraft". He is now going all out for Mrs May's "deal", with Northern Ireland to be hived off from the rest of the UK.

Which again leaves me wondering, if Johnson does present May's deal again and if it does this time get majority support and go through, will 'leavers' accept this result ? It is clear Farage would not but I am wondering would Cyprusgrump ? Would Londonrake ? For my part, even though I think it is the 2nd worst way for the UK to leave the EU (after a no deal / clean break, call it what you will, exit) I would accept it as democratically valid if it secures a majority in the commons. As I have said previously many times before in regards to any form of leaving the EU that can get such a majority, including a no deal / clean break exit. So Londonrake care to share your opinion as to if such a means of implementing the referendum result and leaving the EU is one you would also consider democratically valid ? Cyprusgrump ?

[erolz66]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 32231.html

[Lordo]

is there anybody in this world that does not recognise what a coward he is. is he going to prison? not bloomin likely. today last day of parliament and he is in ireland. i wonder if the bill got the royal assent or is that not going to be done before 17th october. time will tell.

[Lordo]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/iceland-boss-i-didnt-expect-leave-vote-to-lead-to-nodeal-brexit-a4232231.html

he is correct all we heard how we had all the cards and it would be dead easy to make a deal and it would be better than what we have when we are in. this is really beyond belief that anybody believed such a thing and voted for it.

there is an old saying, if you think a deal is too good to be true, you can be sure it is. but hey we still have after 3 years people telling us people voted for no deal.

lets see what boris does on the 17/18. it will al unravel. brexit party will challenge the troies and both parties wil be sent to the moon where they belong.

[Kikapu]

BJ’s legacy.

Parliament 5
BJ ..........0

[Lordo]

make that 2 more and he will also lose the call for a snap ellection.

[erolz66]

So one of the nutter squad claimed they had '20 ways' of Johnson getting out of having to send the letter asking for an extension, its hard to keep up. So here are some more that to my mind are no worse than the idea of sending a second letter saying 'did not really mean it'

1. The letter was there mylud, but then the dog eat it (I knew there was a reason why they got that dog) before it could be sent. Not my fault mylaud.

2. Write the letter by hand in handwriting that is illegible. I sent the letter mylaud, it's not my fault that they could not read it.

3. Fake a letter from Johnson's mother, saying he is not feeling very well today and could he be excused from any letter writing duties.

No doubt others may have ideas as well.

[Kikapu]

Watching the debate in the commons right now, the disgraceful tories has shown what CUNTS they really are.

[erolz66]

Few more odds for you @ ladbrokes

Johnson to be shortest serving PM ever (under 119 days) - 9/4
When Will Boris Johnson Be Replaced As PM? - 2019 - 11/10
Johnson to stand and lose seat at next general election - 5/1