Cyprus-Forum.com

[Paphitis]

Here is another possibility, albeit a very big long shot.

Nigel Farage could be the next PM of the UK with Tories in Coalition, especially if BOJO has martyred himself to the slammer.

The remainers have played with fire and now anything is possible.

In fact, I just can't believe how much they have betrayed their country at the negotiations. BoJo had a plan to hit EU on the 17th of October and I reckon he could have got a reasonable deal, but there is no chance of that anymore.

you don't really know what you are talking about you stupid asshole. no-deal is not an option and will never be an option. if it was an option they should have declared it before the referendum vote ot even when the article 50 was triggered as they have not it cannot be an option.

but there is a non political reason too. stupid people have neem made to believe that if we use that we wil get a better option. when in fact will not. imagine a wife has asked for a divorce. so she has instructed a lawyer to represent her in the negotiations in the proceedings. so the husband says i have an option and if we do not agree on a deal i will walk out of the marriage without a deal. now what will happen in court when the husband says that to the judge. what will the judge do. the judge will award the house to the wife and kids and the huband the mortgage. this is not about buying a car or a house or anythong else. this is a divorce from a union which has lasted for decades and if you thoink you wil be able to just walk away, you are just too stuid to even post to. so from nowi will just ignore you becasue you are simply too stupid to understand.

has anybody seen grumpy these days? i hope he has not thrown hisself under a train or bus or somefink.

I said it was a possibility.

No deal IS an option and has always been an option when Article 50 was passed. Article 50 does not require a deal and the EU will not be kicking the can down the road forever.

Britain isn't married to the EU. It does not need a deal to leave the EU.

Boris is not obligated to ask for an extension if he doesn't want to, but may need to accept the consequences of his actions which I do not think will be all bad for him or for BREXIT.

There are many possibilities and potential outcomes, but what is certain is the fact there will be a GE at some point and that is good for Boris.

[Lordo]

I always thought that to become a martyr, one would need to die for a cause. If BJ breaks the law and is jailed, he doesn’t become a martyr, he becomes a convicted criminal!

Now, if he were to kill himself before he is sentenced he might just get halfway to martyrdom, but if he kills himself once he becomes a convicted criminal, he will die a convicted criminal.

he was born a catholic though. admittedly he converted since but do we know if god has approved his conversion.

[Paphitis]

I always thought that to become a martyr, one would need to die for a cause. If BJ breaks the law and is jailed, he doesn’t become a martyr, he becomes a convicted criminal!

Now, if he were to kill himself before he is sentenced he might just get halfway to martyrdom, but if he kills himself once he becomes a convicted criminal, he will die a convicted criminal.

he was born a catholic though. admittedly he converted since but do we know if god has approved his conversion.

The guy has solid beliefs in God and country and is the kind that will put it all on the line.

In other words, he might have some tea with macron on those fancy footstools and talk about the Ashes which his best mates the Aussies are about to win.

[erolz66]

Labour will take control of government as temporary care taker government. They will rework the withdrawal agreement and political deceleration, towards a softer exit with some kind of continued participation in customs union as the 'destination' for the end of the transition period. This will be put to the people in a referendum vs revoke. The party will itself support the deal but it will allow open vote and campaign of its MP's just as in the first referendum, so people like Thornberry will be free to campaign for revoke. The referendum result will be to accept this deal because people like me who voted remain in the first ref will understand the danger of a revoke result being achieved will not end this and that is even worse than leaving in a sensible way. Parliament will pass the withdrawal deal as the ref will tell them to do. Then we will have the GE and Labour will win a majority. The Tories will be destroyed. Johnson will lose his own seat as will many other leading extreme Brexit Tories, like Raab (who represents a constituency that voted to remain by a much larger margin than the country voted to leave).

[Paphitis]

Labour will take control of government as temporary care taker government. They will rework the withdrawal agreement and political deceleration, towards a softer exit with some kind of continued participation in customs union as the 'destination' for the end of the transition period. This will be put to the people in a referendum vs revoke. The party will itself support the deal but it will allow open vote and campaign of its MP's just as in the first referendum, so people like Thornberry will be free to campaign for revoke. The referendum result will be to accept this deal because people like me who voted remain in the first ref will understand the danger of a revoke result being achieved will not end this and that is even worse than leaving in a sensible way. Parliament will pass the withdrawal deal as the ref will tell them to do. Then we will have the GE and Labour will win a majority. The Tories will be destroyed. Johnson will lose his own seat as will many other leading extreme Brexit Tories, like Raab (who represents a constituency that voted to remain by a much larger margin than the country voted to leave).

Good luck with that one!

[erolz66]

The guy has solid beliefs in God and country and is the kind that will put it all on the line.

And yet even his own brother does not trust him to act in the national interest, so why should the electorate ?

[Paphitis]

The guy has solid beliefs in God and country and is the kind that will put it all on the line.

And yet even his own brother does not trust him to act in the national interest, so why should the electorate ?

I wouldn't say that at all.

BORIS became PM on the premise of getting BREXIT over with. His brother doesn't agree with that and resigned honorably.

[Kikapu]

I always thought that to become a martyr, one would need to die for a cause. If BJ breaks the law and is jailed, he doesn’t become a martyr, he becomes a convicted criminal!

Now, if he were to kill himself before he is sentenced he might just get halfway to martyrdom, but if he kills himself once he becomes a convicted criminal, he will die a convicted criminal.

A political martyr.

No I don't think he wants to kill himself. he is too headstrong and not the type of guy that will give up easily as everyone can see.

If he becomes a convicted criminal, and that's a big IF, he also becomes a champion of the people.

On what ground can BJ become “champion of the people” when he hasn’t achieved anything other than destroying the Tory party? No one is trying to stop Brexit, but only a no deal Brexit.

Ok, perhaps non Tory parties may thank him for fucking up his party.

[erolz66]

The guy has solid beliefs in God and country and is the kind that will put it all on the line.

And yet even his own brother does not trust him to act in the national interest, so why should the electorate ?

I wouldn't say that at all.

Yet you are not his brother and that is what his brother has said. Such kinds of political 'fratricide' as seen with the milliband brothers never play well before an electorate.

[erolz66]

Ok, perhaps non Tory parties may thank him for fucking up his party.

Nah even that 'credit' will be given to Cummings and not Johnson by those that welcome such self inflicted damage done by the Tory party on the Tory party