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[Paphitis]

There is no formality here.

Such uncharted waters and BoJo can do many things to interfere with things and he could also move a motion of no confidence.

But either way, he doesn't have to abide by the Bill if he doesn't want to and can deal with the ramifications later.

The people will still make their wishes known, and this is where BoJo will gain encouragement from.

He is't running from the people. The Remoaners are and the people see that.

In the end, he is still PM for now. He can do what he wants. In fact, I don't see how he has much choice unless he feels confident he will win a majority for sure. I only rate his chances of that at 50%.

If he wins a majority, then he will overturn EVERYTHING and proceed with NO DEAL anyway. I only give him a 50% chance.

So he only sure bet is to not ask the EU for an extension and crash out and deal with all the legal ramifications. He may need to take one for the team, and that will make him a hero to millions of Brits.

[erolz66]

Either way,I am tipping that BREXIT is still going to occur .....

Yes it is and it is going to be Labour that deliver it, which is what is going to wipe out the Tories and the Brexit party in one fell swoop. If Corbyn was an effective campaigner in the 2017 election campaign against TM, defying all the polls and predictions, then just wait and see what he will be able to do going in to the next one against Johnson having himself delivered Brexit.

Labor isn't going to deliver any BREXIT.

They will not be in Government.In-fact, they are in deep trouble.

About 40% of their voters are Brexiteers.

And those Brexiteers will not accept a backstop.

Labour will take power once the choice in front of the commons is support such or default no deal exit. They will pass a withdrawal agreement bill and the backstop will become irrelevant because the political deceleration will seek a future relationship that is based around some form of customs union between the UK and the EU at the end of the transition period. The vast majority of the 17 million who voted to leave will accept this implementation of the referendum result, given that the Tories have delivered nothing to them at all in 3.5 years.

[Paphitis]

Either way,I am tipping that BREXIT is still going to occur .....

Yes it is and it is going to be Labour that deliver it, which is what is going to wipe out the Tories and the Brexit party in one fell swoop. If Corbyn was an effective campaigner in the 2017 election campaign against TM, defying all the polls and predictions, then just wait and see what he will be able to do going in to the next one against Johnson having himself delivered Brexit.

Labor isn't going to deliver any BREXIT.

They will not be in Government.In-fact, they are in deep trouble.

About 40% of their voters are Brexiteers.

And those Brexiteers will not accept a backstop.

Labour will take power once the choice in front of the commons is support such or default no deal exit. They will pass a withdrawal agreement bill and the backstop will become irrelevant because the political deceleration will seek a future relationship that is based around some form of customs union between the UK and the EU at the end of the transition period. The vast majority of the 17 million who voted to leave will accept this implementation of the referendum result, given that the Tories have delivered nothing to them at all in 3.5 years.

I seriously think you are deluded.

There ius no way Brexiteers will accept anything Corbyn has to say, including labor voting Brexiteers. They are headed Nigel's way.

[Pyrpolizer]

The bill places a deadline of the 19th October for Johnson to send the letter asking for an extension,

My point is that by 19th is would be too late, because the extension has to be approved unanimously by the EU council that meets on the 17th
I am interested for the exact date just to put on my calendar for coming back to the forum.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meet ... lters=2031

[erolz66]

In the end, he is still PM for now. He can do what he wants.

The UK system of government does not allow the executive to 'do whatever they want' without any checks and balances and quite rightly so. This is true even of an executive that has a majority in the commons. It is even more true of an executive that commands a majority of -23 and counting, led by a PM himself put in place by the votes of less than .1% of the population. He wanted a no deal exit. He could not get it. He wants a GE at a time of his choosing. He can not get it. He is boxed in and fucked, all as a result of his own mistakes and miscalculations, no doubt egged on by the sociopath Cummings.

[Paphitis]

The bill places a deadline of the 19th October for Johnson to send the letter asking for an extension,

My point is that by 19th is would be too late, because the extension has to be approved unanimously by the EU council that meets on the 17th
I am interested for the exact date just to put on my calendar for coming back to the forum.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meet ... lters=2031

There will be an election in all likelihood the 15th of October.

[erolz66]

The bill places a deadline of the 19th October for Johnson to send the letter asking for an extension,

My point is that by 19th is would be too late, because the extension has to be approved unanimously by the EU council that meets on the 17th
I am interested for the exact date just to put on my calendar for coming back to the forum.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meet ... lters=2031

It will be tight but the EU will (imo) be ready and willing to grant one final extension until the 1st of Jan 2020 on the basis that this is done to allow Labour the chance to get a withdrawal bill through the commons by that date.

[Paphitis]

In the end, he is still PM for now. He can do what he wants.

The UK system of government does not allow the executive to 'do whatever they want' without any checks and balances and quite rightly so. This is true even of an executive that has a majority in the commons. It is even more true of an executive that commands a majority of -23 and counting, led by a PM himself put in place by the votes of less than .1% of the population. He wanted a no deal exit. He could not get it. He wants a GE at a time of his choosing. He can not get it. He is boxed in and fucked, all as a result of his own mistakes and miscalculations, no doubt egged on by the sociopath Cummings.

He can do what he wants alright. In fact its not him doing what he wants but just NOT DOING what the Parliament want him to do.

He doesn't have to go and request an extension.

Sure it will possibly cause a lot of turmoil and potentially he could get charged and go to jail, but that isn't as bad as it sounds for Boris because his popularity will soar! Tories will definitely win a majority if he is martyred into jail. he will become the hero of the people. The PM that defended the democratic wishes of the majority Brexiteers.

Personally, that is what I would do.

[erolz66]

The bill places a deadline of the 19th October for Johnson to send the letter asking for an extension,

My point is that by 19th is would be too late, because the extension has to be approved unanimously by the EU council that meets on the 17th
I am interested for the exact date just to put on my calendar for coming back to the forum.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meet ... lters=2031

There will be an election in all likelihood the 15th of October.

You willing to place money on that ? Somehow I doubt it.

[Paphitis]

The bill places a deadline of the 19th October for Johnson to send the letter asking for an extension,

My point is that by 19th is would be too late, because the extension has to be approved unanimously by the EU council that meets on the 17th
I am interested for the exact date just to put on my calendar for coming back to the forum.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meet ... lters=2031

It will be tight but the EU will (imo) be ready and willing to grant one final extension until the 1st of Jan 2020 on the basis that this is done to allow Labour the chance to get a withdrawal bill through the commons by that date.

labor will not be in any position to deliver anything.

Tories will still be in power till the 1st of January even after a GE - only this time with some additional Brexit Party seats and backing. farage is coming back!