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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby miltiades » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:17 pm

"Brexit: MPs give bill to stop no-deal second reading by majority of 29 – live news
Bill passes initial vote by 329 to 300 as prime minister threatens to seek snap general election"
It looks as if the Clown is having a hard time !!
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:20 pm

miltiades wrote:"Brexit: MPs give bill to stop no-deal second reading by majority of 29 – live news
Bill passes initial vote by 329 to 300 as prime minister threatens to seek snap general election"
It looks as if the Clown is having a hard time !!


You really can't see it?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:They were cooking the books to meet EU criteria.

But no one knew they would have a complete meltdown.

If the banks new that, they would have consolidated the lending portfolios or foreclosed on people earlier to save the crown jewels rather than go under.

What about laiki? I suppose they knew as well. :lol:


ALL Banks (including Cypriot and Greek) knew that buying Greek Bonds was a high RISK investment.
I don't know how much information the Greek Banks had, but what is certain is that they didn't know the debt was getting out of control, simply because the Greek Government was hiding data.
The point is that when an economist is provided with false data he can predict nothing.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:15 pm

Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Brexit: MPs give bill to stop no-deal second reading by majority of 29 – live news
Bill passes initial vote by 329 to 300 as prime minister threatens to seek snap general election"
It looks as if the Clown is having a hard time !!


You really can't see it?


What I see is a prime minster, who was himself placed in that role mid term by the votes of less than .1% of the population, leading a minority government that started yesterday with a working majority of one, even after using 2 billion of tax payers money to secure 10 'supply and demand' votes from the DUP, in the pursuit of trying to achieve a default no deal exit that does not have majority support in the commons or the country, first see their majority reduced to 0 and then down to - 21 after they removed the whip from those conservatives that dared to disagree with him on this issue of vital importance, suffer a series of humiliating defeats. Have I missed something ?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:29 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Brexit: MPs give bill to stop no-deal second reading by majority of 29 – live news
Bill passes initial vote by 329 to 300 as prime minister threatens to seek snap general election"
It looks as if the Clown is having a hard time !!


You really can't see it?


What I see is a prime minster, who was himself placed in that role mid term by the votes of less than .1% of the population, leading a minority government that started yesterday with a working majority of one, even after using 2 billion of tax payers money to secure 10 'supply and demand' votes from the DUP, in the pursuit of trying to achieve a default no deal exit that does not have majority support in the commons or the country, first see their majority reduced to 0 and then down to - 21 after they removed the whip from those conservatives that dared to disagree with him on this issue of vital importance, suffer a series of humiliating defeats. Have I missed something ?


Yes. But the question wasn’t addressed to you. However, I’ll indulge you a little - although I’ve no intention of getting into your endless diatribes. Go fish

Let’s have the only thing that will resolve all of this. A General Election. That will (hopefully) put to bed all this endless bullshit the likes of “they were lied to” “they didn’t know what they were voting for” . The battle lines are clear, now that both major parties are not lying about “respecting the referendum result” as they did in 2017.

Your just a n other bad loser sunshine. And - resolution’s coming. :wink:

Now, please do me a favour. Stop posting your boring, endless, book-length bullshit and go sort out you allotment or something. :roll:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:44 pm

The EU has already announced that if the UK PARLIAMENT asks for an extension they will grant it!

Hey where's your crown Mr Clown? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:55 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:The EU has already announced that if the UK PARLIAMENT asks for an extension they will grant it!

Hey where's your crown Mr Clown? :lol: :lol: :lol:


You people are a joke. As hard as it is to believe - you really can’t seem to see or understand what’s occurred, right in front of your eyes. Brilliant! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:58 pm

Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Brexit: MPs give bill to stop no-deal second reading by majority of 29 – live news
Bill passes initial vote by 329 to 300 as prime minister threatens to seek snap general election"
It looks as if the Clown is having a hard time !!


You really can't see it?


What I see is a prime minster, who was himself placed in that role mid term by the votes of less than .1% of the population, leading a minority government that started yesterday with a working majority of one, even after using 2 billion of tax payers money to secure 10 'supply and demand' votes from the DUP, in the pursuit of trying to achieve a default no deal exit that does not have majority support in the commons or the country, first see their majority reduced to 0 and then down to - 21 after they removed the whip from those conservatives that dared to disagree with him on this issue of vital importance, suffer a series of humiliating defeats. Have I missed something ?


Yes. But the question wasn’t addressed to you. However, I’ll indulge you a little - although I’ve no intention of getting into your endless diatribes. Go fish

Let’s have the only thing that will resolve all of this. A General Election. That will (hopefully) put to bed all this endless bullshit the likes of “they were lied to” “they didn’t know what they were voting for” . The battle lines are clear, now that both major parties are not lying about “respecting the referendum result” as they did in 2017.

Your just a n other bad loser sunshine. And - Resolution’s coming. :wink:

Now, please do me a favour. Stop posting your boring, endless, book-length bullshit and go sort out you allotment or something. :roll:


We will indeed now have to have another general election but not used as a procedural trick to achieve a default no deal exit that does not have and has never had legitimate majority democratic support. I welcome such. I hope that the Tories do a deal with the Brexit party and campaign on a manifesto of a no deal exit and nothing else. I would welcome such clarity. If the people return a majority of MP's under such a manifesto and we no deal exit you will not hear a peep out of me as to that not being democratically valid. I have never opposed the UK leaving the EU in the face of the referendum result. Nor have I ever opposed leaving without a deal, provided that had majority support either of MP's or the people directly. Nor have I ever opposed having a general election as a means of trying to get such a majority in parliament. What I have and do oppose is having a no deal exit forced on the UK when it against the will of the majority of parliament. It seems that this is being averted despite Johnson and Cumming's plots and plans. If that makes me 'another bad loser' in your book then so be it. I would argue it in fact makes me a democrat.

Having said that I do not think a general election will change much. I think we will still end up with a hung parliament.

As for your request to me to stop posting, that is not something I think you have the right to ask or demand of me and nor is it something I would consent to. You can read my posts or not, that is your choice. You can respond or not that is your choice. But to respond just to ask me to stop posting because that is what you would prefer seems pretty pointless to me. Feels a bit like you would like the right to make your comments and then have the discussion 'porogued' so that no one could then scrutinise or challenge such comments ?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:27 pm

It is so ironic for the Brexiteers who have complained over and over about the unelected EU officials which the UK must not fall under any longer, and yet, they are relying on the unelected House of Lords members to somehow help them repel the just passed no deal Brexit in the commons tonight. :D
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:47 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:The EU has already announced that if the UK PARLIAMENT asks for an extension they will grant it!

Hey where's your crown Mr Clown? :lol: :lol: :lol:


You people are a joke. As hard as it is to believe - you really can’t seem to see or understand what’s occurred, right in front of your eyes. Brilliant! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nothing unexpected occurred dear.
There will be elections in due time and Bojo will go home breaking the record of 4 defeats out of 4 in the parliament.
The EU itself will grant the extension by application of the Parliament, even if Bojo refuses to write the letter.
Then there will be a new updated referendum.
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