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[Paphitis]

But getting a US ATPL does not entitle me to a degree.

Getting a ATPL from anyone, anywhere does not mean you have a 'degree in aviation'. This is what I have been saying all along. CAE Oxford offer courses to gain an ATPL. They do not offer courses to gain a 'degree in aviation'. Which is why your claim to have such a degree from CAE Oxford just smells like BS to me. As does the claim that CAE Oxford or as it was previously know, Oxford Aviation Academy, is or ever was part of Oxford university. I could be wrong but only actual evidence will convince me that I am wrong. You just repeating the same claims over and over without providing any evidence to support your claims, for me, just leads me to think the chance that you are just talking BS is higher, not lower.

No it doesn't.

But doing a degree with Swinburne/CAE gets you a degree. And do you want to know what the degree involves. ATPL subjects. That's it!

So if you go through the CAE system, you get a degree. Not just an ATPL.

There are hundreds of people with such degrees. It's common knowledge. they are integrated ATPL courses, nothing more. The curriculum is exactly the entire ATPL curriculum as determined by the regulator.

This is the course offered by CAE:

The Bachelor of Aviation will equip you for a professional career as a commercial pilot. You will undertake commercial flying training at CAE Oxford Aviation Academy, located at Moorabbin Airport, to obtain your Commercial Pilot Licence and operate a multi-crew jet aircraft. Additional elective flying qualifications are available. You will study the theory units required by CASA up to and including Air Transport Pilot Licence (ATPL) standard, as well as studies in aviation human factors, aviation management and aviation technology.

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/cour ... -AV/local/

For crying out loud, the big prize is the ATPL offered under the regulatory framework.

The degree IS basically an ATPL course with a few extras to give you a competitive edge. Plus you do not actually need to do the CPL and Instrument Training to get the degree. I had those tickets 10 years before I got my ATPL with CAE and was already flying 35 ton aircraft without an ATPL.

[Pyrpolizer]

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[Paphitis]

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Yeh thanks Pyro, but I'm not putting my degrees up on a forum. That is just a totally ludicrous and vane thing to do.I did think about it for about 2 minutes, but there is no point at all.

I am not going to post my Part 161 ATPL either. Or my Operator proficiency Instrument rating. It's just a dangerous thing to do especially when you are getting vetted by Homeland for airside access. I am not posting my Driver's License either. I don't care if people do not believe I have these.

I have about 20 years of work life in me and I don't know where I will be. I have a preliminary offer of employment from a US company subject to be getting a TSA and having my E3B visa approved by the US embassy. I have an interview with them next month. They friggin mean business too. Any minor misdemeanor for them is a big deal.

Everyone on this forum bags the Americans out but they are very strict.

i don't particularly care if anyone believes me or not but putting these things up on a forum is not something I am prepared to do.

Erolz for instance put his driver's licence up. He blotted his name but left his driver's licence number for the entire world to see. That is just a pretty dumb thing to do.

[Pyrpolizer]

For all these economists know, the globe could go into deep recession in 15 years time or total depression. No friggin economist was ever clever enough to predict the Great Depression, yet they are predicting the British GDP in 15 years time.

Of course they can predict things upto 15 years because they specialize on macroeconomics (meaning long term economics). Didn't they teach you anything at "Oxford" about macroeconomics? In fact the 2nd link I gave you, goes as deep as 2035-2036.
If I were you I'd rather shiver on the short term impact. I mean if the long term impact would be -7.6% imagine what it would be during the first year. And it's not the only study available. There are at least 10 more credible studies (links given in the document)

The document on page 80 says:

Other studies allow for a wider range of trade impact channels, including at least one of productivity, foreign direct investment or capital accumulation. These studies (“dynamic” models) find results lying between -4.6 per cent and -18.0 per cent.

Geez Pyro.

If they can predict what can happen in 15 years time, then these people are so stupid for staying where they are.

They should resign and predict what is going to happen on the Furtures Markets and Stock Exchanges and make some serious money. I mean if they are able to predict the British GDP in 15 years time with such accuracy, then predicting share p[rices should be a doddle for them too. Please point me to the direction of such a wizard and I promise I will quit my job immediately.

No I don't know much about economics, just some basics. And I seriously doubt Oxford will ever tell any of their students they will be able to predict any such things at all. It's completely laughable like its laughable that Meteorologists are able to predict weather patterns in 15 years time or by the amount of global warming temperature increases that will take place.

Varoufakis is an economist and a revered expert. How come he never was able to predict Greece's plight? he should have gone to Greece way before the crisis and saved them. Why didn't the Government of Greece not know their GDP will fall by 30%?

Why didn't the Cyprus Government know their GDP will fall?

Huh??
Did you have to be a rocket scientist to have predicted that one day what happened in Cyprus or Greece would have happened anyway?
It's a matter of having the relevant information. If an economist knew they were cooking the books in Greece he would have predicted it.

OTOH Brexit with NO deal provides so much information by itself that it's a matter of examining the various scenarios using computer algorithms. As you may see they ended up to a range of percentages.
I doubt such process could apply in the Stock markets.
Also comparing macroeconomics with Meteorology is like comparing apples with oranges.

[Paphitis]

For all these economists know, the globe could go into deep recession in 15 years time or total depression. No friggin economist was ever clever enough to predict the Great Depression, yet they are predicting the British GDP in 15 years time.

Of course they can predict things upto 15 years because they specialize on macroeconomics (meaning long term economics). Didn't they teach you anything at "Oxford" about macroeconomics? In fact the 2nd link I gave you, goes as deep as 2035-2036.
If I were you I'd rather shiver on the short term impact. I mean if the long term impact would be -7.6% imagine what it would be during the first year. And it's not the only study available. There are at least 10 more credible studies (links given in the document)

The document on page 80 says:

Other studies allow for a wider range of trade impact channels, including at least one of productivity, foreign direct investment or capital accumulation. These studies (“dynamic” models) find results lying between -4.6 per cent and -18.0 per cent.

Geez Pyro.

If they can predict what can happen in 15 years time, then these people are so stupid for staying where they are.

They should resign and predict what is going to happen on the Furtures Markets and Stock Exchanges and make some serious money. I mean if they are able to predict the British GDP in 15 years time with such accuracy, then predicting share p[rices should be a doddle for them too. Please point me to the direction of such a wizard and I promise I will quit my job immediately.

No I don't know much about economics, just some basics. And I seriously doubt Oxford will ever tell any of their students they will be able to predict any such things at all. It's completely laughable like its laughable that Meteorologists are able to predict weather patterns in 15 years time or by the amount of global warming temperature increases that will take place.

Varoufakis is an economist and a revered expert. How come he never was able to predict Greece's plight? he should have gone to Greece way before the crisis and saved them. Why didn't the Government of Greece not know their GDP will fall by 30%?

Why didn't the Cyprus Government know their GDP will fall?

Huh??
Did you have to be a rocket scientist to have predicted that one day what happened in Cyprus or Greece would have happened anyway?
It's a matter of having the relevant information. If an economist knew they were cooking the books in Greece he would have predicted it.

OTOH Brexit with NO deal provides so much information by itself that it's a matter of examining the various scenarios using computer algorithms. As you may see they ended up to a range of percentages.
I doubt such process could apply in the Stock markets.
Also comparing macroeconomics with Meteorology is like comparing apples with oranges.

No I am teally sorry, but I never had a clue! And i don't know anyone else who had a clue either.

And I never met a single politician that had admitted they had a clue either. Even Varoufakis had no clue, and he is qualified in economics.

Now if you are telling me you knew this was coming 15 years later, then why didn't you warn all the rich people that suffered the haircut. I knew of retirees that lost pretty close to everything. I guess they were no rocket scientists either.

BREXIT provides no information at all. These are unchartered waters. no one in their right mind can claim to accurately predict what is going to happen.

[erolz66]

Yeh thanks Pyro, but I'm not putting my degrees up on a forum. That is just a totally ludicrous and vane thing to do.I did think about it for about 2 minutes, but there is no point at all.

At this stage, after doing actual research, I do not believe that a 'degree in aviation from CAE Oxford' is something that actually even exists. From Swinbourne , yes but not from CAE Oxford. You could post a scan that might help convince me such a thing does in fact exists, without having to give any personal details at all. That you chose not to, using the excuse that it is personal information, is therefore factored in when I make a personal judgement on if you are BSing or not.

i don't particularly care if anyone believes me or not but putting these things up on a forum is not something I am prepared to do.

You made a claim that you had a degree in aviation from CAE Oxford. You also claimed this institution was part of Oxford university. All the research I have done to date indicates that CAE Oxford do not and have never offered such degree courses and that it or any of it's former incarnations have ever been a part of Oxford university. Hence my call of BS, pending any actual evidence to the contrary.

[erolz66]

This is what a degree from oxford looks like



Show me something similar that has CAE Oxford at the top of it and I might believe that such a thing as a 'degree in aviation from CAE Oxford' actually exists. Right now I do not believe it exists and thus your claim to have such a thing is to me almost certainly BS. As is the claim that CAE Oxford is or ever was part of Oxford university.

[Paphitis]

Yeh thanks Pyro, but I'm not putting my degrees up on a forum. That is just a totally ludicrous and vane thing to do.I did think about it for about 2 minutes, but there is no point at all.

At this stage, after doing actual research, I do not believe that a 'degree in aviation from CAE Oxford' is something that actually even exists. From Swinbourne , yes but not from CAE Oxford. You could post a scan that might help convince me such a thing does in fact exists, without having to give any personal details at all. That you chose not to, using the excuse that it is personal information, is therefore factored in when I make a personal judgement on if you are BSing or not.

i don't particularly care if anyone believes me or not but putting these things up on a forum is not something I am prepared to do.

You made a claim that you had a degree in aviation from CAE Oxford. You also claimed this institution was part of Oxford university. All the researched I have done to date indicates that CAE Oxford do not and have never offered such degree courses and that it or any of it's former incarnations have ever been a part of Oxford university. Hence my call of BS, pending any actual evidence to the contrary.

They exist alright.

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/cour ... -AV/local/

CAE partners with Swinburne University of Technology to deliver the only bachelor degree level flying course in Victoria.

A range of degree and double degree programs are available designed to take students with little or no flying experience and equip them with the knowledge, skills and attributes to operate a multi-crew jet aircraft. We train pilots to the highest standards and our graduates hold positions in Australia’s and the world’s major airlines.

Course Outline

Students split their time between Swinburne and CAE covering the academic units of their course at Hawthorn and completing flying theory and flying training at Moorabbin airport.

The program incorporates:

Private Pilot Licence (PPL)
Aerobatics
Multi Engine Command Instrument Rating – ME-IR (A)
Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL)
Flight Instructor Rating or Multi Crew Cooperation and Jet Orientation Course
ATPL Theory Subjects

Open your eyes! It's in black and white both on the CAE website and Swinburne University.

[Paphitis]

This is what a degree from oxford looks like



Show me something similar that has CAE Oxford at the top of it and I might believe that such a thing as a 'degree in aviation from CAE Oxford' actually exists. Right now I do not believe it exists and thus your claim to have such a thing is to me almost certainly BS. As is the claim that CAE Oxford is or ever was part of Oxford university.

It looks similar to that.

Why don't you put my name on it and done.

I'm not posting any such thing I am sorry.

best I can do is send a copy to Boomerang. But I am not going to send you a copy.

[erolz66]

They exist alright.

https://www.swinburne.edu.au/study/cour ... -AV/local/

So this degree that you claim to have from CAE Oxford. What does it say at the top of it ? CAE Oxford or Swinburne University of Technology ?

Open your eyes! It's in black and white both on the CAE website and Swinburne University.

There is nothing on the CAE site that talks about degree courses in aviation that I can find. If you have found such why not provide the link / evidence ? Why just keep claiming that the CAE site details CAE degree courses in aviation when I can not find such and without showing where on the CAE site does it list or detail its 'degree courses in aviation' , either alone or in partnership with others ? The CAE site does not list any degree courses in aviation. Thus the idea that such a degree from them does not exist, despite your claim ot have such, seems pretty strong to me.