cyprusgrump wrote:Lordo wrote:Londonrake wrote:See what I mean?
we have inheritted a asshole of a pm who decided to shut down parliament to exit without a deal and you call yourself a democrat and say see what mean. you must be joking.
there was me thinking we were unhappy about decisions made by eu and we wanted to give control back to parliament. yeah right. i have a feeling your politcial understanding was learnt in nursery school.
don't need to see what mean at all. just don't read it casue you don't even understand what democracy is.
I have better things to do than respond to your nonsense but fortunately, somebody has done it for me elsewhere...As Lucy Allen MP rightly points out, there is nothing new to debate that has not already been debated over the past three years. The role of Parliament holding the executive to account has already happened. If something changes, then parliament will get its opportunity, but until the Queen’s speech, there is nothing more to add. Nothing more to discuss. No holding to account to be done.
However, there is an odd reversal going on here. The ballot paper made no mention of a deal. Article 50 mentions nothing about a deal. When parliament repealed the European Communities act, there was nothing in it about a deal.
Sure, it was reasonable to expect a mutually agreeable withdrawal arrangement to be negotiated, but no one voted for one. Indeed, parliament thrice rejected the deal put before them, so I have no sympathy for MPs who now whine that they didn’t vote for a no deal exit. Yes, they fucking well did. And if they really don’t understand that, they have no business sitting in Parliament.
And that outrage? The coup d’etat? Hysterical nonsense. What we have here is the strange situation whereby the executive is holding parliament to account and forcing through what they and the electorate voted for.
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This kind of governmental underhanded action to get it's way by bypassing people's parliament in an already 50%-50% divided country over Brexit, it is a recipe for civil war in some countries, or at the very least, a revolt. Lets see what the British are made of. Will the half of the country feeling screwed would rise up or will they take it in the shorts? Will the British be like the brave people of Hong Kong to stand up against the government, ironically the last democratic colony Britain left behind, who are pushing for more democracy in the face of communist China under the treat of another Tienanmen Square massacre or will they bitch and moan while having their Gin & Tonics and pints at the local pub by bunch of wimps? When leaders are allowed to get away with such actions, see Turkey, Democracy as we know it become eroded. If Londoners were like the Hong Kong people, they would have already surrounded the number 10 Downing street with a massive sit-in making sure BJ would become a "prisoner" at number 10.
