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[Pyrpolizer]

yeh right.

So a dumb person can come out and say I voted for trump and expected such and such and I didn't know!

Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

The only people crying are the original people that voted to remain. They can't hack that they lost and Britain is leaving the EU. They can't hack that The Holy Ghost is PM and is gonna get things done and Britain will be out in a few weeks come what may.

Everyone else is fine with it.

No. Voting for Trump could only have one outcome. Trump in office where he may or may not do what he promised. That's standard expectation.

In contrast the UK "Leave mandate" could be with a good deal, an average deal, a bad deal, or no deal at all.

The very minimum they can do at this point is do another referendum asking the people if they want to leave with no deal, or May's deal as these are the only 2 options available.

Trump has proven to be the anti-politician! Why? Because he keeps his promises.

Not only that, but I think he has to be the first POTUS to not have started a war.

So what’s not to like? You would think he should be up for the Nobel Peace prize. But the elites won’t have that! They are still crying blue murder.

As for BREXIT! Parliament rejected the last deal and the EU said that is the only deal on offer. Therefore, there is no other choice other than WTO No Deal Brexit.

It’s up to the EU whether they want to be reasonable and compromise.

Hey I just said your example of electing a President is not a valid comparison.
why did you start another campaign for Trump is beyond me

[Pyrpolizer]

No. Voting for Trump could only have one outcome. Trump in office where he may or may not do what he promised. That's standard expectation.

In contrast the UK "Leave mandate" could be with a good deal, an average deal, a bad deal, or no deal at all.

The very minimum they can do at this point is do another referendum asking the people if they want to leave with no deal, or May's deal as these are the only 2 options available.

A few comments on that:
There have been polls already. The VAST MAJORITY (out of memory >70%) of British would vote for Brexit without a deal, rather than Brexit with Theresa's deal!!
That came as a shock to me because the UK Govnt office for budget responsibility estimated a maximum 2% reduction in Britain's GDP with May's deal, whereas with Brexit without deal it would be 8% and would go on for 15 years.
In any case here are some interesting polls. Would the Brexit vote win if there was a new referendum ?

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-pol ... l-results/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/883 ... scenarios/

These estimates are just scare mongering like the murmurs of food and medicine shortages.

There will be no drop in GDP. In fact British GDP is growing faster than all EU members including Germany. EU is going into recession.

Aha! The Guardain estimates are scare mongering, the remainers estimates are scare mongering, everybody is scare mongering, now the Government's office for budget responsibility (never knew the British had such a thing) which is just British Government economists are also scare mongering.

Neeext!!

[Lordo]

listen asshole, if i said it once i said it a million times. i shall say this one last time and ignore your ranting from now on.

17 odd miilion people voted to brexit. that was no no-deal brexit - fact
16 odd million peope voted for remain. there is only one remain

since that vote we had 2017 elections - fact

tories got 13 million votes - tory brexit not all tories voted for no deal brexit as seen by their mps voting - fact
corbyn got 12 million votes - fact

tories had no majority to carry their brexit no matter what - fact

their pact with the nazis were discusding - fact

we have a parliamentary democracy - fact
untill and when a deal is passed through the commons there is no violation of democracy - fact
pushing no-deall through withut parliamentary vote is totally undemocratic - fact

this government wil fall in the first week of september - as such an opinion but it will be confirmed as a fact

you can just fuck off to the outback - fact

In the 2017 election the Conservative manifesto included the phrase, "No deal is better than a bad deal"

FACT!

absolutely and they lost their majority. so out f 17 million that voted for brexit. only 13 million voted for the tories and a third of them were remain.

[Pyrpolizer]

Explain the Brexit Party gaini gan extra 4% then inthe IPSOS poll and BOJO going +9 percent.

There have actually been 3 BREXIT referendums and at least 1 parliamentary vote to enact Article 50.

Britain has always elected anti EU MEPs for the last 3 Euro Elections.

Inthe last election, the BREXIT party had a clean sweep. So the Brits are have been strange bedfellows with the EZ and nothing has changed. They just want out!

Hungary might be next as well. They are becoming extremely anti EU in Hungary and their FM just told TUSK to go get stuffed! Hungary is going very anti immigrant and refuses to even talk with EU bigwigs.

Along withBritain, I support Hungary. They probably have the best Government in all of Europe bless their socks.

Fyi there are at least 30% Euro skeptic MPs in the EU, even our own Akel is a Euro skeptic.
We know the UK was also electing clearly anti-EU MPs, but don't give me the bull that it was electing ONLY anti-EU MPs.
Even in this year's elections the Brexit party won only half the seats.

[Pyrpolizer]

No. Voting for Trump could only have one outcome. Trump in office where he may or may not do what he promised. That's standard expectation.

In contrast the UK "Leave mandate" could be with a good deal, an average deal, a bad deal, or no deal at all.

The very minimum they can do at this point is do another referendum asking the people if they want to leave with no deal, or May's deal as these are the only 2 options available.

A few comments on that:
There have been polls already. The VAST MAJORITY (out of memory >70%) of British would vote for Brexit without a deal, rather than Brexit with Theresa's deal!!
That came as a shock to me because the UK Govnt office for budget responsibility estimated a maximum 2% reduction in Britain's GDP with May's deal, whereas with Brexit without deal it would be 8% and would go on for 15 years.
In any case here are some interesting polls. Would the Brexit vote win if there was a new referendum ?

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-pol ... l-results/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/883 ... scenarios/

Pyro, it is not 70%. It is only 34%!

No man, that 34% was for a different question.
I will try finding the poll that compares just the 2, leave with May's deal or no deal. Notice LEAVE is the common denominator.

Sorry Kiks, I didn't find it but even from that poll it's 34% Vs 6% or 7:1 and in this poll it's 3:1

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/d ... rticle-50/

Therefore if the only choice would be leave with no deal or May's deal, the vast majority of British people would vote "No deal"

[Kikapu]

No. Voting for Trump could only have one outcome. Trump in office where he may or may not do what he promised. That's standard expectation.

In contrast the UK "Leave mandate" could be with a good deal, an average deal, a bad deal, or no deal at all.

The very minimum they can do at this point is do another referendum asking the people if they want to leave with no deal, or May's deal as these are the only 2 options available.

A few comments on that:
There have been polls already. The VAST MAJORITY (out of memory >70%) of British would vote for Brexit without a deal, rather than Brexit with Theresa's deal!!
That came as a shock to me because the UK Govnt office for budget responsibility estimated a maximum 2% reduction in Britain's GDP with May's deal, whereas with Brexit without deal it would be 8% and would go on for 15 years.
In any case here are some interesting polls. Would the Brexit vote win if there was a new referendum ?

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-pol ... l-results/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/883 ... scenarios/

Pyro, it is not 70%. It is only 34%!

No man, that 34% was for a different question.
I will try finding the poll that compares just the 2, leave with May's deal or no deal. Notice LEAVE is the common denominator.

Sorry Kiks, I didn't find it but even from that poll it's 34% Vs 6% or 7:1 and in this poll it's 3:1

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/d ... rticle-50/

Therefore if the only choice would be leave with no deal or May's deal, the vast majority of British people would vote "No deal"

I am just going by the link you have provided, Pyro.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/883 ... scenarios/

[cyprusgrump]

listen asshole, if i said it once i said it a million times. i shall say this one last time and ignore your ranting from now on.

17 odd miilion people voted to brexit. that was no no-deal brexit - fact
16 odd million peope voted for remain. there is only one remain

since that vote we had 2017 elections - fact

tories got 13 million votes - tory brexit not all tories voted for no deal brexit as seen by their mps voting - fact
corbyn got 12 million votes - fact

tories had no majority to carry their brexit no matter what - fact

their pact with the nazis were discusding - fact

we have a parliamentary democracy - fact
untill and when a deal is passed through the commons there is no violation of democracy - fact
pushing no-deall through withut parliamentary vote is totally undemocratic - fact

this government wil fall in the first week of september - as such an opinion but it will be confirmed as a fact

you can just fuck off to the outback - fact

In the 2017 election the Conservative manifesto included the phrase, "No deal is better than a bad deal"

FACT!

absolutely and they lost their majority. so out f 17 million that voted for brexit. only 13 million voted for the tories and a third of them were remain.

Grow up...

[Londonrake]

In an election where both major parties campaigned on a manifesto commitment to honour the referendum result. And got 85% of votes polled. Whilst the LDs, the party of overt Remain ........ got decimated. Didn’t we cover that before? And before? And before? And...................

How did the EU MEP elections go? Didn’t we...............

[cyprusgrump]

In an election where both major parties campaigned on a manifesto commitment to honour the referendum result. And got 85% of votes polled. Whilst the LDs, the party of overt Remain ........ got decimated. Didn’t we cover that before? And before? And before? And...................

How did the EU MEP elections go? Didn’t we...............

Jeebus, if Lordo were any more stupid he/she/it would need watering twice a week. The unintelligible drivel posted here suggests that he/she/it wears shoes with Velcro fasteners.

[Londonrake]

In an election where both major parties campaigned on a manifesto commitment to honour the referendum result. And got 85% of votes polled. Whilst the LDs, the party of overt Remain ........ got decimated. Didn’t we cover that before? And before? And before? And...................

How did the EU MEP elections go? Didn’t we...............

Jeebus, if Lordo were any more stupid he/she/it would need watering twice a week. The unintelligible drivel posted here suggests that he/she/it wears shoes with Velcro fasteners.

Oyyy! I’ve got Velcro fasteners.