Lordo wrote:supporttheunderdog wrote:Well you have to start it somewhere and they have found the space at Euston by buying up lots of properties on the west side of the station and clearing them. Euston is after all currently the NW gateway station and reasonably well connected to the underground, better connected when Euston square on the Met / H&C / Circle line will have direct access.
the position remains that with current line usage there are capacity problems in particular on commuter trains at peak times. Get the long distance expresses separate and you possibly more than double the number of commuter trains.
I know that line: there is not the space to do it by adding tracks alone side and that would be just as costly in land costs as building the new line, and more disruptive.
i can clearly see you are clueles about project management. let me educate you.
first you need to understad the problem fully.
then you work out the possible solutions
then analise each one to see the benefits and dis-benefits.
decide which solution you will go with and justify it by making sure it is value for money
then begin the project.
this project was doomed before it started.
similar to brexit really. same people same shit. they have spend billions and we still don't know if we are going or staying. done properly firat we woul dhave the decision finalised. then prepare for it and then leave.
when you have people who snort drugs making decision for you, you normally end up in a mess and a half but they are always alright becasue when they leave the palms that were greased will always look after you after you leave office
But the project has been analysed. It is how the conclusions were reached that expansion of existing railways and/or upgrading them was not a viable option.
Expansion, building more tracks to one side or either side, or wherever, would still require the massive amounts of land purchase, then massive amounts of civil engineering, and that would likely require far more costly purchase od property in towns and cities that the existing railway passes through...eg Look at Watford and the long embankment between Bushy and Watford Junction, then the cutting north to the Watford Tunnels and out to Kings Langley, and where the work at Watford junction station itself would be highly disruptive, probably involving many periods where the track would have to be completely closed for possibly long periods.
Upgrade? Been done. Very little scope to get more trains on the line, quart into pint pot.
The problem is not the nimby politics, indeed politics full stop.
Build the line, it gives you automatically up to 18 trains an hour on the new line, and by taking out the large average speed differential between express trains and stopping trains which causes large gaps in the service you can put a lot more stopping trains in, not just on tbe Euston line, but also the St Pancras and Kings cross lines which will have some faster Non stop trains transferred. It’s a win-win.
He probably thinks that the NHS built all the hospitals too! 
