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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:15 am

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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:19 am

well I feel nothing but pitty for all those innocent pebol who did not really inderstand what they were voting for and got hooked by the lies put out by the "c" brigade some of which reside in this here forum.

but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. there is a way out. but the most important exercise is the vote for corbyn to be pm. that will identify all those labour mps that don't belong to the party and will be pruned out of the party on acount that they are not democratic enough. if they cannot respect the decision of the membership they have no place in the party. as to 14 days, if cotbyn does not get the votes, i am sure corbyn will nominate another labour mp of which there are many that can do the job to take on the manle to correct the ship as it were.

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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:30 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:There won't be any imaginary new trade partners with you guys, the cost of shipping to the US or Australia is huge, the EU will still be your main trade partner, and won't restrict your exports to member states with any strangling tariffs. It's your Government that will impose high protection tariffs on EU products just to suck your money.
Back to square 1.


It's not that much.

There are massive super tankers and ships going back and forth all the time and the transport costs on the flow are not excessive.

Fact is, USA has the cheapest cost of living than all of us when it comes to food, clothing and other things like that, including electronics, computers and other tech products.

We also already trade with Britain and other EU countries, including Cyprus. BTW, you guys sell Australian Lamb at your supermarkets for 5 friggin Euros. That's dirt cheap. It's charged out at 3 times that amount in Australia. Just one example. So whatever the transport cost is, it isn't much at all for your chains to be selling it this cheap.

Trade between Australia and EU surpassed $75 Billion in 2017 and increasing year after year.

https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-fo ... agreement/

https://dfat.gov.au/about-us/publicatio ... the-eu.pdf

And BTW, it's not as if the UK can't trade with the EU. It can, and it will trade with the EU. In fact, it will still be able to trade with the EU under the current system for another 2 years at least and this can still be extended up to 10 years.

Also, Norway and Switzerland trade with the EU. They are not EU members. Britain will be no different.


That's not what I said !
I just countered the argument that current EU tariffs are preventing trade with 3rd countries for the purpose of collecting money for the EU system.
What's preventing it is the shipping cost plus the import tariffs of the destination countries, which for high volume or high weight-low price products (e.g. plastics, Aluminum etc) makes it non profitable.
Even for high price low volume products e.g. meat, would you as a British meat producer get a better deal exporting it FROZEN to Australia paying 8-10,000 Euros per 40' /40 ton fridge container rather than exporting it to Europe FRESH for 2,000?
There won't be any new trade horizons after Brexit, that's all.
Besides what the UK will need after Brexit is new exports, not new imports! New imports is easy new imbalanced trade(more imports than exports) is easiest thing to do...
Can you tell me on what products the UK will achieve higher exports after Brexit, than what it does now??

Btw there is no fresh lamb in Cyprus from Australia or New Zealand at the price of 5 Euros. What may exist is FROZEN, but we prefer to pay 6 euros to get it fresh from Greece or Bulgaria.
Now if you are paying triple the price down there in Holy-Rosy-Not Australia, perhaps you should try finding the reasons in local cartels.

As for the UK continuing to trade with the EU for 2 years, that's only true if she exits with current deal. If no deal it will be treated like a 3rd Country from day 1!


Shipping costs are negligible.

That isn't preventing trade with the EU at all.

Trade between the EU and the USA and Australia is increasing and the EU does buy a lot of our produce which you end up buying in your French Super Market's etc verty cheap. In fact it always amazes me seeing how cheap Australian and NZ lamb is in Cyprus when in Australia it is expensive.

Tariffs are by far the biggest impost to trade. It's not me saying that. It is the generally accepted reality. Some of these chips carry thousands of tonnes each time.

Also, just look at all the Made in China stuff you have in Cyprus and every where else selling for pennies.

I believe Australia is very keen to increase its trade with the UK. It is after all, the 5th largest economy in the world. Who wouldn't want to trade with them. Some remoaners would have us believe that the EU will not but that is unrealistic. Everything will continue as per normal.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:39 am

cyprusgrump wrote:Bizarre...

After wanting Brexit for all these years it turns out that the best part of leaving the EU is going to be rubbing Remoaners noses in it! :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: It's going to be a salt bonanza! :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... DYNVH0U3cs
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:46 am

oh dear the corporations will not like this one bit. this is not what they were planning for brexit. interesting to see what they do about it. is there anything not threatened by brexit. if ony they would publish the sector by sector reports they did. if only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49405270
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:46 am

miltiades wrote:It is spelled REMAINERS
Plonker !
Incidentally, have you got your EU Passport? Bet you have !!


All you do is moan moan moan moan moan about the referendum!

Therefore, you are a foul mouthed remoaner! :lol:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:48 am

Lordo wrote:oh dear the corporations will not like this one bit. this is not what they were planning for brexit. interesting to see what they do about it. is there anything not threatened by brexit. if ony they would publish the sector by sector reports they did. if only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49405270


More project fear campaign from the remoaner BBC!

Like the boy who cried wolf! :lol:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:05 am

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:oh dear the corporations will not like this one bit. this is not what they were planning for brexit. interesting to see what they do about it. is there anything not threatened by brexit. if ony they would publish the sector by sector reports they did. if only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49405270


More project fear campaign from the remoaner BBC!

Like the boy who cried wolf! :lol:

Shut up stupid !
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:08 am

Lordo wrote:oh dear the corporations will not like this one bit. this is not what they were planning for brexit. interesting to see what they do about it. is there anything not threatened by brexit. if ony they would publish the sector by sector reports they did. if only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49405270



Cheap petrol! Yay! :lol:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Paphitis » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:55 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:oh dear the corporations will not like this one bit. this is not what they were planning for brexit. interesting to see what they do about it. is there anything not threatened by brexit. if ony they would publish the sector by sector reports they did. if only.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49405270


More project fear campaign from the remoaner BBC!

Like the boy who cried wolf! :lol:

Shut up stupid !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... DYNVH0U3cs

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