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[cyprusgrump]

Worth remembering that this is how parliament voted:

MPs have voted by a majority of 384 to allow Prime Minister Theresa May to get Brexit negotiations under way.

They backed the government’s European Union Bill, supported by the Labour leadership, by 498 votes to 114.

I’d say that’s overwhelming.

This is what they voted for:

1 Notification of the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the European Union

(1) Her Majesty’s Government has a duty to notify the European Council by 31 March 2017 of the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the European Union.

(2) The notification must meet the terms of Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union.

2 Short title, commencement and extent

(1)This Act may be cited as the Withdrawal from the European Union (Article 50) Act 2017.

(2) The Act shall come into force on the day on which it receives Royal Assent.

(3) This Act extends to England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

It doesn’t state anywhere that the government has to negotiate a deal, let alone mention what a deal should look like.

[Robin Hood]

Cyprusgrump:

It doesn’t state anywhere that the government has to negotiate a deal, let alone mention what a deal should look like.

Well ..... not quite the same as handing in your notice to your employer that’s for sure! But the text of Article 50 says it does involve negotiating. Our problem was that the ‘negotiations’ were dealt with by Teresa May who was not up to the job, in fact the result says she was totally incompetent.

I don’t know what advice Trump gave her ..... but observing how he ‘negotiates’ HIS way out of a deal, he certainly doesn’t go through all this crap! He just gives a few week’s notice and then leaves! The UK should have done exactly the same with the EU!

https://qz.com/943226/what-does-the-full-text-of-article-50-that-triggers-brexit-actually-say/

[cyprusgrump]

French Port Boss Calls ‘La Bullshit’ on Claims UK, France Not Ready for Clean Brexit

A French port chief has emphatically dismissed alarmist claims that there will be massive delays between Dover and Calais if the United Kingdom leaves the EU Customs Union in a no-deal Brexit.

“There are certain individuals in the UK who are whipping up this catastrophism for their own reasons. This has provoked a lot of concern but basically ‘c’est la bullshit’,” Jean Marc Puissesseau, the president of Port Boulogne Calais, told The Telegraph on Sunday.

Mr Puissesseau has been saying that his port is ready for No Deal and that there would be no delays to freight since January, and dismissed allegations that his British colleagues are not ready, either.

“The British authorities have been doing a great deal to prepare. People say they are asleep but I can assure you that they are highly professional and they are ready,” he said.

[Lordo]

if only you will remove the bucket off your head you may actually understad something. the delays at the port are the last of our worries.

Bryce explains: "The UK is currently a WTO member in its own right. The issue is it does not have an independent schedule of concessions for the WTO - that's the menu upon which Britain trades with the rest of the world. "It needs to have that if it's going to strike trade deals.
And the way that its approach is different from that of the EU is the UK wants to replicate its current trade WTO commitments by making just a few technical changes and then submitting it to the WTO for certification.

uk wants to replicate the eu concessions with some technical changes and guess what, eu will not oblige. there is no way we can use the concessions negotiated with 600 million population. so the first hurdel is the eu does not agree and nor does us brazil and new zealand. if this goes to arbitration it will take years, in the mean time the ports will be empty. no trade see.

but it seems there is light at the end of the tunnel.
1. bo jo will lose the no confidence vote
2. bercow will then allow parliament to vote on the no deal. and of course as parliament voted against no deal and was duly ignored, then they will vote for it again. and this time it cannot be ignored
3. when does happen either they will elect a new pm which will duly delay artcile 50 and set the general election or they may even go crazy and let jc in to negotiate with a promise of a second confirmatory vote. but really what jc wants most of all is another election to clear this cancer that has engulfed us.

i mean they removed 21,000 policemen and their backroom staff and by some magic they have found the money to employ 20,000 policemen no mention of their backroom staff. then of course there now going to build new prisons hold 10,000 prisoner. and step up stop and search. what bo jo wants is riots so he can claim he is tough with law and order

the asshole is using the 26 billion that was set aside for no deal to start this crap just so he can win the election but it will not work. his cabinet is full of asshole, liars croock and undesirables brigade.

farage will do the honours and draw enough votes to reduce tory mps by about 100 or more and there is the end of this saga.

once people get a chance to vote on no deal or remain, it will then finally get resolved. i love the democrats who do not believe in voting. and before you mention 2016, that is bullshit. that was not vote for no deal and never has been. you cannot change the terms of brexit after the vote. you want no deal vote for it explicitly. in any case referendums are never binding only parliament votes are and not even all of them are binding. even if the referendum was declared binding it still has to be voted for in parliament.

who would have guessed that tories would pass a law to start talks with the eu and make the default position no-deall and actually strive for it. if they had the guts they should have put the motion specifying that no deal will be a choice. not discarding it it seems is the same as specifying it. not your life boy.

[cyprusgrump]

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[Lordo]

yes, thought is not easy.

[cyprusgrump]

UK will surge under no deal Brexit says economist - ‘it ain’t no recession’

A LEADING economist has predicted that Britain’s economy is more than likely to surge back into growth, as she ridiculed fears of an imminent recession.

[Lordo]

UK will surge under no deal Brexit says economist - ‘it ain’t no recession’

A LEADING economist has predicted that Britain’s economy is more than likely to surge back into growth, as she ridiculed fears of an imminent recession.

[miltiades]

UK will surge under no deal Brexit says economist - ‘it ain’t no recession’

A LEADING economist has predicted that Britain’s economy is more than likely to surge back into growth, as she ridiculed fears of an imminent recession.

Im so so relieved!! A geriatric Brexeteer has now put my mind at rest !!:As for the Express, the chief Brexeteer of them all im over rhe moon. Let us dismiss the views of other economists and congratulate this little Englander old bird for her rubbish views. Only fools could take this seriously.

[Londonrake]

UK will surge under no deal Brexit says economist - ‘it ain’t no recession’

A LEADING economist has predicted that Britain’s economy is more than likely to surge back into growth, as she ridiculed fears of an imminent recession.

Yes. People can have short memories (or, chose to selectively forget). There were similar dire warnings about Britain leaving the ERM in 1992, despite the fact membership had caused a sharp recession (it became known as “The Eternal Recession Mechanism”) and the country lost billions in a futile effort to prop up sterling. Effectively making Soros £1 billion.

Once the country “crashed out” (sound familiar?) there was an economic boom, with growth accelerating and unemployment dropping. By 1997 the UK economy was thriving once again. However, the Tory’s had lost their reputation for economic competence on “Black Wednesday” and ended up handing it all over to Blair in his big election win that year.

High among the cabinet ministers responsible for that debacle we’re the same ole EU whore recidivists - Heseltine and Clarke. Still pouring out their bankrupt messages and being hailed as heroes by some.

Those who forget history..........