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[Lordo]

Well, you should know!
How is that pound in your pocket mate,?
Paphitis, the idiot, posted, Stetling is doing great!! Its worth more than the euro and the dollar !!! What a moron !! Doesn't he know Sterling is also worth more than the Afghani or the Nigerian niara. What a liad of plonkers!!

The AUD, USD and Euiro are not the Afghani.

But yeh, Sterling is worth more than all the currencies mentioned.

BTW, USA, China, Japan, Canada and Australia have been trying to devalue their currency by cutting interest rates. It's apparently better for exports.

Germany does the same to the Euro (Greece, Portugal and Spain practically have no say) in order to improve their car exports.

It's a fallacy to presume a strong currency correlates to good and being beneficial to the economy when the opposite is sometimes the case.

A lower Sterling can stimulate British exports overseas.

you are one stupid guy. have you any idea what the british unterest rates are and have been for a very long time.

[cyprusgrump]

enjoy this one. let this fellow expalin to you and the other assholing idiots why backstop cannot be removed. i wonder if Jonathan Powell knows a thing or two about consequences of any form of brexit

btw did you and your assholing brexiteers vote for this? imagine a border between the two irelands with back to war or a border in the north sea. oh yeah bring it on baby, i's ready for a bit of bloodspilling. grrrrrrrrrrrr

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewsnight/videos/710620146032381/

So, given the EU have said they are not going to impose a hard boarder... And given that the UK have said they are not going to impose a hard boarder... And given that Ireland have said they are not going to impose a hard boarder...

...who will impose this mythical boarder of which you speak...?

All of the "debate" i have followed about the border (without an "a") between The Irish Republic and Northern Ireland relates to the transfer of goods and mythical technical solutions. I would like to know how the UK would "take back control" of immigration from the EU without some sort of authority stationed between the north and south.

Nobody is going to impose a border so there won't be a border...

There are already 'mythical technical solutions' that take account of the different VAT rates I believe...?

Ireland isn't in Schengen so there isn't a problem with EU immigration.

And lastly, remember that is is geographically almost impossible to impose a 'hard border'... The British Army couldn't do it with thousands of troops and helicopters... At one point the main road crosses the border about five times in just a few Km...

The border and the backstop are bullshit obstacles to the UK leaving the EU - nothing else.

[Robin Hood]

Londonrake

You do have an invariable tendency to turn absolutely any post about the US into one of their apocalyptic demise. Wishful thinking of course. Although, quite what they’ve done - given all the other atrocious dictatorships you so frequently defend - to deserve such festering hatred has always beaten me.

After the joyous event - IIRC - your belief is that humanity will be led to the sunny uplands of their existence by Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.

Why do immediately have to turn a post into a political confrontation?

You made a comment about currency devaluation specifically noting that between the US and China. I had noted the same and looked into it a bit deeper than you did obviously.

Outcome ...... China owns a very large percentage of US external dollar debt. Who owns your debt owns you .... basic economics. and you deem that anti-American ..... I see it more like your exhibiting paranoia!

What if China calls in the debt? In fact China and many other countries are selling off US Govt. Bonds and buying gold instead and the US has controlled gold prices for decades, they are now also losing control of that market.

[Londonrake]

Why do immediately have to turn a post into a political confrontation?

‘Scuse me?

I didn’t. You did.

I just pointed out the irony of widespread complaints about the drop in sterling, in the context of Brexit, whilst the US and China were actively competing to do the same. End of.

I’m well aware of the situation so - no - you didn’t “look into it a bit deeper”.

You then posted a clearly gleeful, very detailed rendition of how the Chinese were “winning” and even managed to get a mention of Israel in. Nothing at all to do with the OP.

And I’ve turned it into a political confrontation? You’re being hypocritical again, as you are with your paranoia accusation.

‘Delusions of persecution. Exaggerated self importance. Obsession.’ Come on. Recognise?

[Kikapu]

China will never call in it‘s debt with the USA, since that would be committing an economic suicide by China. Basically, the money that the USA borrows from China is the same money from trade surplus China makes from the USA. It will be like killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

[Robin Hood]

Jerry:

All of the "debate" i have followed about the border (without an "a") between The Irish Republic and Northern Ireland relates to the transfer of goods and mythical technical solutions. I would like to know how the UK would "take back control" of immigration from the EU without some sort of authority stationed between the north and south.

It only matters if these illegal’s find their way to the UK mainland as Northern Ireland is a relatively small and mainly rural area. To get to the UK mainland they need either to fly or sail ...... or swim. If there are no checks on the border then the furthest they can get is an airport or a ferry terminal, where there would be checks. I think a few ‘strange looking and maybe people of colour’ wandering around the streets of Belfast might just get noticed?

[Londonrake]

All of the "debate" i have followed about the border (without an "a") between The Irish Republic and Northern Ireland relates to the transfer of goods and mythical technical solutions.

Not mythical when it suits.


http://www.douane.gouv.fr/articles/a161 ... art-border

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[Robin Hood]

LR:
One news letter from a source you vehemently describe as a Moscow/Beijing/Tehran etc. mouthpiece ..... gives seven different views, by seven different people, of the problem and you think is all anti-American propaganda! I think what has happened in the 'Markets' in the last few days supports their observations.

https://mailchi.mp/ad010b738f1f/the-us-china-trade-war?e=b38f12970d

[Londonrake]

LR:
One news letter from a source you vehemently describe as a Moscow/Beijing/Tehran etc. mouthpiece ..... gives seven different views, by seven different people, of the problem and you think is all anti-American propaganda! I think what has happened in the 'Markets' in the last few days supports their observations.

https://mailchi.mp/ad010b738f1f/the-us-china-trade-war?e=b38f12970d

I'm sorry - I think you've misunderstood. Let me help.

There's clearly an irony when people complain bitterly and repeatedly about drops in sterling brought about by Brexit (it hasn't happened yet!) whilst the world's two most powerful economies are locked in a bitter struggle, each trying to outdo the other in devaluing their currencies, in order to boost national competitiveness. I'm sure you would agree.

That's the full extent of my point, which is entirely within the context of the OP. I have absolutely no interest at all getting into a "debate" about what's going on in the US/China trade war. Perhaps a dedicated thread? Kikapu obviously has different views to yourself, so you shouldn't get too lonely.

[erolz66]

I just pointed out the irony of widespread complaints about the drop in sterling, in the context of Brexit, whilst the US and China were actively competing to do the same. End of.

The difference here is that the US and China want such a lowering. With brexit it is a consequence of Brexit. That may or may not be a consequence the UK also wants. There is however no 'choice' with brexit. The consequence is always a lowering. You can not 'choose' to have Brexit that leads* to Sterling getting stronger. Brexit requires such a lowering, even if what we want is a stronger Sterling.

* leads is not the right word there. 'causes in a certain period of time' is much better.