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[erolz66]

If you've been clever enough to move your money out of Sterling why do you keep banging on about the exchange rate...?

Some of us can not move our money out of Sterling, because it is income and it has not come in yet.

[erolz66]

We obviously have to agree to differ on the prospects of the UK outside of the EU... I guess we'll just have to wait and see eh...?

Agreeing to differ on things that are a matter of opinion is fine. What is not fine is denying reality. Claiming a wto exit is just an alternative and equivalent form of exit to other deals is not a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact.

[Robin Hood]

Erolz66:
Blimey, you sure do make mountains out of mole hills. You seem to be paranoid and fixated on just a static scenario. Has it not occurred to you that whilst you may well be 100% correct in your views, those whose job it is to deal with these things will have realised, just like you that on the face of it there is no transition period stated for a WTO Brexit .... ( because this is a first and WTO was developed as a basis of fair trade between nations that I believe also transition from non-member to full member status over time )...... and will have taken steps to make sure the obvious catastrophic effects of that are considered BEFORE we make the move.

Now, they may not contact you and keep you informed but I would be astounded if nobody has considered this, if it is actually as factual as you believe it to be, and allows your Doomsday scenario to become a reality!

All the other numerous legal agreements about air-space etc. I have no doubt will be rolled over, if indeed that is not already in place. If they haven’t? Then my advice to you would be don’t travel by air on the 31/10/19 ..... as you could find out after midnight you are illegally flying in EU airspace as your flight plan has been cancelled as the date on the agreement expired!

But NONE of that is relevant to the question 'is a "wto deal" based exit fundamentally different from other forms of exit or is just an equivalent alternative to them'. You just can not answer that question, either way by talking about what kind of trade deal we may or may not end up with.

Is it different to other to other forms of exit? What other forms of exit? You only have two WTO or EU! I know of no others ..... but then I don’t claim to be an expert on the subject. If WTO means a change of rules in their entirety between 31/10/19 and 1/11/19 why is that? Have the Conservatives been so arrogant that they believe it would only be the EU version of an exit to be considered and they have done absolutely nothing to mitigate the effects if their negotiations fail. The Titanic was ‘unsinkable’ .... but it still had lifeboats!

Like arrangements were made to allow UK citizens to still receive their medical benefits in Cyprus when the UK left, I can only put my faith in those whose job it is to make these things happen and consider that there is much going on behind the scenes we know absolutely nothing about. I have no definitive answer to your numerous questions ....... I don’t know enough about what is actually going to happen ..... and neither do you! I am willing to resign myself to believing that using common sense would say there may well be problems but nothing like as catastrophic as you predict ........ because as you have demonstrated it is all predictable!

Do you remember the panic leading up to the Year 2000? I was in Saudi at the time and the clients management went over board and insisted every piece of equipment had to have ‘Y2K’ certification. I spoke to many of the manufacturers as we had a lot of micro-processor based equipment. Almost to a man they could not understand what all the fuss was about, but they complied ......... it cost the client about $10mn for a pile of relatively useless pieces of paper. As predicted by those with the ability to see through the clouds of smoke and numerous mirrors, the wild prediction’s by the Doomsday brigade were all bullshit!

[erolz66]

You win RH. I have learnt next to nothing about brexit , gain no new understanding or insight about it by debating with you. I sure have learnt a hell of a lot about you however and about how and why seemingly intelligent people, able to question things for themselves, able to not just believe any source without testing it simply because it suits, able to question themselves even when doing so does not suit, can at other times abandon all of this to be able to come to the conclusion they wanted to in the first place.

I am done. You have worn even me down.

[cyprusgrump]

You win RH. I have learnt next to nothing about brexit , gain no new understanding or insight about it by debating with you. I sure have learnt a hell of a lot about you however and about how and why seemingly intelligent people, able to question things for themselves, able to not just believe any source without testing it simply because it suits, able to question themselves even when doing so does not suit, can at other times abandon all of this to be able to come to the conclusion they wanted to in the first place.

I am done. You have worn even me down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... iUFPjulTW8

[Lordo]

tories do not have a plan of what to do after brexit but they sure had a plan to fustrate parliament and drive through a crash brexit. make sure the process of deciding who the leader of the party is so long that it will take us upto recess and wallah no-deal brexit cannot be stopped.

it will be very interesting how they actually get stopped. thank god for bercow. he is excellent at saying order.

[cyprusgrump]

tories do not have a plan of what to do after brexit but they sure had a plan to fustrate parliament and drive through a crash brexit. make sure the process of deciding who the leader of the party is so long that it will take us upto recess and wallah no-deal brexit cannot be stopped.

it will be very interesting how they actually get stopped. thank god for bercow. he is excellent at saying order.

Your comments on Brexit are as coherent as your views on gun control...








...i.e. not at all...

[Paphitis]

Good to see you’re still in there RH.

[Lordo]

tories do not have a plan of what to do after brexit but they sure had a plan to fustrate parliament and drive through a crash brexit. make sure the process of deciding who the leader of the party is so long that it will take us upto recess and wallah no-deal brexit cannot be stopped.

it will be very interesting how they actually get stopped. thank god for bercow. he is excellent at saying order.

Your comments on Brexit are as coherent as your views on gun control...

...i.e. not at all...

listen grumpy what we have here is clear lack of communication. now there are two reasons for this
either you do not understand what i am saying
or you are not listening.

i suspect both are in operaton today.

now here is bit of bad news for you do digest. according to the bbc today
the food industry has asked for the competition laws to be removed so they can discuss prices. wow what a way to move forward.
secondly here is another list of industries that are going to be adversely affected by no-deal brexit.

The cross-party Exiting the EU Committee has warned that a no deal could mean "damaging consequences" for sectors such as:

Car industry
Food industry
Services businesses
Farming
Pharmaceuticals
Chemicals
Technology
Higher education

thats a double wow. now fools like you and the rest of brexiteers want to move from no problem to problem. shortages of food and medication and such.

s you clearly have a problem mu friend.

when it comes to gun control which bit of the sentence do you have a problem with. with people who pull the trigger as kakapoo said if they had no guns they would not be able to pull the trigger.

i learn't something today which i was not aware before. the gun control lobby justify support of owning guns by claiing that they need the guns in case they need to attack the government. now in my book to plan and arm yourself to overthrow a government is treaon.

condisring you are in support of no gun control what kind of treasonous asshole are you and your intelecually challnged buddies.

[cyprusgrump]

tories do not have a plan of what to do after brexit but they sure had a plan to fustrate parliament and drive through a crash brexit. make sure the process of deciding who the leader of the party is so long that it will take us upto recess and wallah no-deal brexit cannot be stopped.

it will be very interesting how they actually get stopped. thank god for bercow. he is excellent at saying order.

Your comments on Brexit are as coherent as your views on gun control...

...i.e. not at all...

listen grumpy what we have here is clear lack of communication. now there are two reasons for this
either you do not understand what i am saying
or you are not listening.

i suspect both are in operaton today.

now here is bit of bad news for you do digest. according to the bbc today
the food industry has asked for the competition laws to be removed so they can discuss prices. wow what a way to move forward.
secondly here is another list of industries that are going to be adversely affected by no-deal brexit.

The cross-party Exiting the EU Committee has warned that a no deal could mean "damaging consequences" for sectors such as:

Car industry
Food industry
Services businesses
Farming
Pharmaceuticals
Chemicals
Technology
Higher education

thats a double wow. now fools like you and the rest of brexiteers want to move from no problem to problem. shortages of food and medication and such.

s you clearly have a problem mu friend.

when it comes to gun control which bit of the sentence do you have a problem with. with people who pull the trigger as kakapoo said if they had no guns they would not be able to pull the trigger.

i learn't something today which i was not aware before. the gun control lobby justify support of owning guns by claiing that they need the guns in case they need to attack the government. now in my book to plan and arm yourself to overthrow a government is treaon.

condisring you are in support of no gun control what kind of treasonous asshole are you and your intelecually challnged buddies.

See what you did there...? Changed 'could' to 'are' to reinforce your argument...

That is why you have no credibility.

As for guns, states with the highest gun ownership have the lowest crime rates - I'm all for that thanks!