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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:37 pm

this appeared in the guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/no-deal-brexit-legally-possible-even-after-no-confidence-vote

Lord Jonathan Sumption, a former supreme court judge, said Johnson would be entitled to stay on as the prime minister even if he lost a confidence vote
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:41 pm

One thing the UK should realize, that should they leave without a deal, then Turkey’s constant blackmailing the EU with threats by flooding Europe with refugees would no longer work, because any refugees entering the EU from wherever, their number one destination has always been the UK, and the rest of the remaining 27 EU member states would accommodate the refugees to get to the UK as expeditiously as possible. At the moment refugees are mainly stopped in France before they can reach the UK. After Brexit, who is going to stop the refugees in the continent whilst on their way to the UK? Most certainly not the French and the British won‘t be allowed to do it in France either. UK border patrol will be hiring hundreds of border agents soon if anyone is looking for work in the UK.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Londonrake » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:01 pm

Lordo wrote:this appeared in the guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/no-deal-brexit-legally-possible-even-after-no-confidence-vote

Lord Jonathan Sumption, a former supreme court judge, said Johnson would be entitled to stay on as the prime minister even if he lost a confidence vote


No. What you posted was “the government has said they may not allow a no confidence vote.......” that’s not the case at all, they have absolutely no power to prevent one.

You then said “.............even if it is forced upon the government (how can that be so? You just said that they can stop it. :? ) they may ignore it”. Also untrue. The Fixed Term Parliaments Act dictates - by law - that there’s then a 2 week interval where other options can be explored, before another vote of confidence. At that point, if the government again loses, it’s the prerogative of the PM (in consultation with the Queen) to name the date of the General Election. Parliament then has to be dissolved 25 days before. That isn’t ignoring parliament. It does though - on the face of it - give Johnson the power to call an election on say the 7th November, at which point the UK SHOULD :roll: have left the EU by law at 11pm on 31st October.

I wouldn’t be surprised then if he won.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:28 pm

there you go, it has just been anounced as to who actually said it. it was Dmoninic Cummings. the man responsible for brexit win.

they will not succeed. if they lose the no-confidence vote which they will, mps will vote for a new leader like ken clark or any of the other remainer with labour support to delay brexit and hold a general election. no matter which way the bastards turn, they will be blocked. there is no mandate for the current government tocrash out of eu.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:34 pm

Lordo wrote:there you go, it has just been anounced as to who actually said it. it was Dmoninic Cummings. the man responsible for brexit win.

they will not succeed. if they lose the no-confidence vote which they will, mps will vote for a new leader like ken clark or any of the other remainer with labour support to delay brexit and hold a general election. no matter which way the bastards turn, they will be blocked. there is no mandate for the current government tocrash out of eu.


Apart from the default being the exit on WTO terms that they voted for obviously... :wink:
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:36 pm

assuming that we do crash out and we do not respect the goodfriday gareement, can anybody here remember why we signed the agreement in the first place. and i mean the exact incident. what took place that changed the government's view of not talking to ira to actually start talking to them openly, i accept that while they were saying they would not talk to them they were indeed talking to them secretly. i wonder if anybody remebers the exact incident.

becasue it will come back.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:43 pm

interesting little titbit today.

apparently before 2016 camerondid discuss the idea that we may end up with no deal and crash out of the eu to support remain. and it was brexiteers who accused him of scaremongering and getting a deal with the eu would be very easy. isn't that interesting?

and of course when remainers claimed that currency will fall was also shouted down asscaremongering and yet it has already happened and we have not left yet.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Londonrake » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:49 pm

Lordo wrote:assuming that we do crash out and we do not respect the goodfriday gareement, can anybody here remember why we signed the agreement in the first place. and i mean the exact incident. what took place that changed the government's view of not talking to ira to actually start talking to them openly, i accept that while they were saying they would not talk to them they were indeed talking to them secretly. i wonder if anybody remebers the exact incident.

becasue it will come back.


“Crash out” :D

The EU had nothing to do with the Good Friday agreement.

What took place was that Blair wanted to go down in history.

I think the idea that people in Ireland will go back to murdering each other in their hundreds over Brexit’s just another aspect of Project Fear. If they wanted to do that then they just would.
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby Lordo » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:19 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:there you go, it has just been anounced as to who actually said it. it was Dmoninic Cummings. the man responsible for brexit win.

they will not succeed. if they lose the no-confidence vote which they will, mps will vote for a new leader like ken clark or any of the other remainer with labour support to delay brexit and hold a general election. no matter which way the bastards turn, they will be blocked. there is no mandate for the current government tocrash out of eu.


Apart from the default being the exit on WTO terms that they voted for obviously... :wink:

you have mental block on people who voted brexit with no plan of what it meant or what the consequences would be for each plan. and they all voted for the same plan. bullshit and you know it. not even all tory voters voted for wto never mind labour supporters. how many of the brexiteers even knew what wto meant.

after the vote one brexiter walked upto a polish guy and killed him becasue he thought they had voted for all east europeans to leave. yeah of course all the brexiters knew exactly what they voted for.

if you were truly democratic you would accept that it was cary to ask people to vote without a plan and once we have a plan we should at least ask the people is this what they meant. but democracy is not really your interest. you are still at war with the geeeeeeeeeeermans.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/05/death-arkadiusz-jozwik-post-referendum-racism-xenophobes-brexit-vote
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Re: brexit not far away now

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:21 pm

Lordo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Lordo wrote:there you go, it has just been anounced as to who actually said it. it was Dmoninic Cummings. the man responsible for brexit win.

they will not succeed. if they lose the no-confidence vote which they will, mps will vote for a new leader like ken clark or any of the other remainer with labour support to delay brexit and hold a general election. no matter which way the bastards turn, they will be blocked. there is no mandate for the current government tocrash out of eu.


Apart from the default being the exit on WTO terms that they voted for obviously... :wink:

you have mental block on people who voted brexit with no plan of what it meant or what the consequences would be for each plan. and they all voted for the same plan. bullshit and you know it. not even all tory voters voted for wto never mind labour supporters. how many of the brexiteers even knew what wto meant.

after the vote one brexiter walked upto a polish guy and killed him becasue he thought they had voted for all east europeans to leave. yeah of course all the brexiters knew exactly what they voted for.

if you were truly democratic you would accept that it was cary to ask people to vote without a plan and once we have a plan we should at least ask the people is this what they meant. but democracy is not really your interest. you are still at war with the geeeeeeeeeeermans.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/05/death-arkadiusz-jozwik-post-referendum-racism-xenophobes-brexit-vote



Oh what utter bollox! :lol:

You're just making shite up now... :roll:

You're as bad as Milti, Tweedle-Dumb and Tweedle-Dumber! :lol:
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