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Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Londonrake » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:38 am

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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:48 pm

Londonrake wrote:http://en.protothema.gr/greek-and-turkish-fighter-jets-engage-in-dog-fights-over-aegean-sea-3/
can the greeks afford the fuel to fly these things.
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:37 pm

...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:02 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.

i would not go by what churchill said. he was a racist meglomaniac. he hated indians and also advised the raf to bomb kurds in iraq with chemical weapons in the 20s. as to greeks arn't heroes, he was correct there but heroes are greeks is not easy to expalin perhaps he had one too many double whiskeys.
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby erolz66 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:12 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/ ... _say_this/
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Maximus » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:36 pm

erolz66 wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/ ... _say_this/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h8vFz-rbQpA
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Maximus » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:42 pm

Lordo wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.

i would not go by what churchill said. he was a racist meglomaniac. he hated indians and also advised the raf to bomb kurds in iraq with chemical weapons in the 20s. as to greeks arn't heroes, he was correct there but heroes are greeks is not easy to expalin perhaps he had one too many double whiskeys.


No other nation on earth has endured centuries of colonialism, gone through a civil war and then an invasion. The latter two in the space of two decades.

Then had to deal with an occupation and the propaganda that comes with it for another five decades and counting.

Only the Greek Cypriots.

The time will come, when they will be free of the occupation as well. 8)
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Paphitis » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:35 am

Who is winning?

I had a kalamara try to tell me our pilots will destroy them as they are better or better trained or superior. As soon as they see the HAF they high tail it out of there like cowards.

My response was:

"Really"?

"Do you really think Turkish Pilots are lesser to their Greek counterparts"?

They said:

"Of course! It's common knowledge"

So I said:

"So you actually think our pilots are better than them"? :lol:

They said:

"Yeh because a Greek Pilot was named best in NATO"

Me:

"So Greek Pilots are the best in NATO?"

Them:

"Maybe the best in the world"

I said:

"OK then it must be true" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby Maximus » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 am

Pity the man that tries to tell you anything re paphitis.

If I recall some years back, I believe it was you who was trying to tell us that Greek pilots are some of the best in the world. Then you went on to provide further information to support your claim.

Something like the below.

But It seems today, you don’t believe a word of it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Greece’s elite pilots had a fantastic presentation at the Mirage 2000-5 in Albacete, Spain, and were named the best pilots in NATO for 2018.

Greek pilots took this title last year and in particular, the award for “Best Warrior of the World” went to a Greek pilot, as was the case over the last few seasons the training series has been held.

From Monday, September 10th through to Thursday, October 4th, 2018, 331M (331M) of the 114 Battalion Wing / Tanagra Air Base took part in the 3rd Air Training Series for the 2018 Tactical Leadership Program (TLP), Air Base Los Llanos, in Albacete, Spain.

During the competition, the 331 squadrons undertook missions consistent with the mission on both National and NATO levels to familiarise and co-operate all personnel in accordance with its standards and procedures and Greek pilots proved to be world leading.
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Re: Greek/Turkish dogfights over Aegean

Postby erolz66 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:02 pm

Maximus wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...they will boil rocks for soup if they have to.

As Churchill said, Greeks aren't Heroes, Heroes are Greek.


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/ ... _say_this/


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h8vFz-rbQpA


As the person in the reddit thread discussion that I linked to , who provided the link to that youtube video in their discussion, said , I do not think that is Churchill's voice. So as far as it being evidence that Churchill definitely did say such things it is to me of little use. I think it's the kind of thing Churchill might well have said. But as someone that cares about reality / truth first and foremost I have yet to see any evidence that would allow me to say with conviction and certainty that he said this.
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